Clear Speed Leaderboards

Koopak · September 3

48 minutes ago, TheSpiritFox said:

Idk if you want a specific format for this post, but what I did is pretty sustainable as it took over 2 minutes to do. Burnout was used for double gangwar but its part of my build.

Thanks! Theres a format template in the OP of this thread, ill follow up and update the sheet tomorrow as im on my pone atm. When you say a 54 Pylon you do mean the pylons at the Vanguard base that do not attack correct?

Edited September 3 by Koopak

TheSpiritFox · September 3

9 minutes ago, Koopak said:

Thanks! Theres a format template in the OP of this thread, ill follow up and update the sheet tomorrow as im on my pone atm. When you say a 54 Pylon you do mean the pylons at the Vanguard base that do not attack correct?

Yes the level 54 training dummy one

Koopak · September 3

@TheSpiritFox That build chunk appears to be the legacy format recently dropped. I assume you are using an older version of Mids. Modern mids should be able to load the data chunk but I have been unable to load it in any of the following versions.

v3.7.5
v3.4.7
v3.2.17

I'd check pines but i don't have it installed anymore it seems.

Can you provide either the build file (doesn't need to be from the updated version) or a data chunk produced by the current version of Mids' Reborn? https://midsreborn.com/

TheSpiritFox · September 3

2 hours ago, Koopak said:

@TheSpiritFox That build chunk appears to be the legacy format recently dropped. I assume you are using an older version of Mids. Modern mids should be able to load the data chunk but I have been unable to load it in any of the following versions.

v3.7.5
v3.4.7
v3.2.17

I'd check pines but i don't have it installed anymore it seems.

Can you provide either the build file (doesn't need to be from the updated version) or a data chunk produced by the current version of Mids' Reborn? https://midsreborn.com/

Does this work?

Bonnie And - Villain Mastermind
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.6.6 rev. 3
──────────────────────────────

Primary powerset: Thugs
Secondary powerset: Traps
Pool powerset (#1): Speed
Pool powerset (#2): Medicine
Pool powerset (#3): Leaping
Pool powerset (#4): Fire Mastery
Ancillary powerset: Electricity Mastery

──────────────────────────────

Powers taken:

Level 1: Call Thugs

2: Superior Mark of Supremacy: Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen
50: Superior Mark of Supremacy: Damage
50: Superior Command of the Mastermind: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
50: Superior Command of the Mastermind: Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura
50: Superior Command of the Mastermind: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
50: Superior Command of the Mastermind: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 1: Web Grenade

2: Invention: Accuracy
50: Invention: Immobilisation Duration
50: Invention: Immobilisation Duration

Level 2: Caltrops

3: Annihilation: Chance for Res Debuff
50: Impeded Swiftness: Chance of Damage(Smashing)
50: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
50: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
50: Javelin Volley: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
50: Overwhelming Force: Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown

Level 4: Super Speed

5: Celerity: Endurance
50: Celerity: RunSpeed
50: Celerity: +Stealth

Level 6: Equip Thugs

7: Invention: Endurance Reduction

Level 8: Triage Beacon

9: Panacea: Heal/Endurance
50: Panacea: Endurance/Recharge
50: Panacea: Heal/Recharge
50: Panacea: Heal/Endurance/Recharge
50: Panacea: Heal
50: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb

Level 10: Acid Mortar

11: Achilles' Heel: Chance for Res Debuff
50: Ragnarok: Damage
50: Ragnarok: Damage/Recharge
50: Ragnarok: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
50: Ragnarok: Recharge/Accuracy
50: Ragnarok: Damage/Endurance

Level 12: Call Enforcer

13: Nucleolus Exposure
50: Nucleolus Exposure
50: Nucleolus Exposure
50: Shield Breaker: Chance for Lethal Damage
50: Touch of Lady Grey: Chance for Negative Damage
50: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 14: Aid Other

15: Panacea: Heal/Endurance
50: Panacea: Endurance/Recharge
50: Panacea: Heal/Recharge
50: Panacea: Heal/Endurance/Recharge
50: Panacea: Heal

Level 16: Force Field Generator

17: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
50: Invention: Defense Buff
50: Invention: Defense Buff

Level 18: Gang War

19: Call to Arms: Defense Bonus Aura for Pets
50: Edict of the Master: Defense Bonus
50: Expedient Reinforcement: Resist Bonus Aura for Pets
50: Sovereign Right: Resistance Bonus
50: Invention: Recharge Reduction
50: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 20: Poison Trap

21: Neuronic Shutdown: Chance of Damage(Psionic)
50: Unbreakable Constraint: Chance for Smashing Damage
50: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold
50: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Recharge
50: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Recharge/Accuracy
50: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Endurance

Level 22: Hasten

23: Invention: Recharge Reduction
50: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 24: Super Jump

25: Blessing of the Zephyr: Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
50: Blessing of the Zephyr: Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
50: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 26: Call Bruiser

27: Superior Mark of Supremacy: Damage/Endurance
50: Superior Mark of Supremacy: Accuracy/Damage
50: Superior Mark of Supremacy: Accuracy/Endurance
50: Superior Mark of Supremacy: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
50: Explosive Strike: Chance for Smashing Damage
50: Soulbound Allegiance: Chance for Build Up

Level 28: Seeker Drones

29: Invention: Recharge Reduction
50: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 30: Aid Self

31: Invention: Healing

Level 32: Upgrade Equipment

33: Invention: Endurance Reduction

Level 35: Bonfire

36: Annihilation: Chance for Res Debuff
50: Explosive Strike: Chance for Smashing Damage
50: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
50: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
50: Invention: Endurance Reduction
50: Sudden Acceleration: Knockback to Knockdown

Level 38: Field Medic

39: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 41: Burnout

42: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 44: Maneuvers

45: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
50: Luck of the Gambler: Defense
50: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Endurance

Level 47: Assault

48: Invention: Endurance Reduction
50: Invention: Endurance Reduction

Level 49: Vengeance

50: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
50: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

──────────────────────────────

Inherents:

Level 1: Supremacy

Level 1: Brawl

(Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

(Empty)

Level 2: Rest

(Empty)

Level 2: Swift

3: Invention: Run Speed

Level 2: Hurdle

3: Invention: Jumping

Level 2: Health

3: Miracle: +Recovery
50: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance

Level 2: Stamina

3: Performance Shifter: EndMod
50: Performance Shifter: EndMod/Recharge
50: Performance Shifter: EndMod/Accuracy
50: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

2: Invention: Endurance Reduction

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

(Empty)

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

(Empty)

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

(Empty)

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

(Empty)

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 1: Punk

Level 1: Arsonist

Level 12: Enforcer

Level 26: Bruiser

Level 26: Bruiser's Fury

Level 24: Double Jump

Level 4: Speed Phase

Koopak · September 4

@TheSpiritFox no dice on import but I can manually recreate from that at least, Its up now, thanks!

Also attached is my recreation of the build from above, feel free to let me know what details to correct such as level boosters and combined hamios.

168 - TheSpiritFox - (Thugs - Traps).mbd

Edited September 6 by Koopak

TheSpiritFox · September 4

3 hours ago, Koopak said:

@TheSpiritFox no dice on import but I can manually recreate from that at least, Its up now, thanks!

Also attached is my recreation of the build from above, feel free to let me know what details to correct such as level boosters and combined hamios.

168 - TheSpiritFox - (Thugs - Traps).mbd 41.25 kB · 1 download

Every basic IO is boosted, the rest are not including the purples. Hami os are all 53

Koopak · September 6

On 9/4/2024 at 5:47 PM, TheSpiritFox said:

Every basic IO is boosted, the rest are not including the purples. Hami os are all 53

Excellent, thank you, updated.

In other news the sheet has now been updated to reflect the patching of the Signature Summons tech that allowed you to use two sig summons. As such the runs using this method have been archived. You can still find them in the sheet if you change the view you are using.

Tsuko · September 6

On 8/22/2024 at 10:39 PM, Koopak said:

@Tsuko have you been able to get ahold of the build data?

sorry i've been underwater with work

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Koopak · September 7

On 9/6/2024 at 3:53 PM, Tsuko said:

sorry i've been underwater with work

All good, thank you for getting back to me with it, I'm always willing to work with people. Your time is now listed. It is marked for Div3 due to the sue of the recovery temp power.

Edited September 8 by Koopak

Tsuko · September 7

1 hour ago, Koopak said:

All good, thank you for getting back to me with it, I'm always willing to work with people. Your time is now listed. It is marked for Div4 due to the sue of the recovery temp power.

I ll give it another try without the recovery power when i can 👍

StrikerFox · September 9

Took a stab at it with an old Mercs/Cold test build. Got 157 seconds for 372 dps VS the lvl 54 Rikti dummy on Beta. No inspira or temp powers set through Apex. Though I ran the Power Analyzer beforehand because I wanted to see the dummy's res stats.

It's an old test build so I do not have a Mids' file. I took screenshots of it's powers/slotting. Build is not fleshed out at all. Could improve with more +recharge and MM attacks. Incarnates used:

Musculature Core Alpha

Degenerative Radial Interface

Ageless Core Destiny

Assault Radial Hybrid (Toggled on).

In the video, damage starts at 1:17 and pylon destroyed at 3:54.

Run Type: Rikti dummy
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary Powerset: Mercenaries
Secondary Powerset: Cold Domination
Time in seconds: 157 (2:37)
Hybrid: Yes (Toggled on)
Number of Runs: 1
Version: i28pg1 Beta
Video Link: https://youtu.be/Dk1xRZ-P2KM
Notes: No inspira/temp powers
Build: Only a screenshot, incomplete build.

Edited September 9 by StrikerFox

Koopak · September 10

19 hours ago, StrikerFox said:

Took a stab at it with an old Mercs/Cold test build. Got 157 seconds for 372 dps VS the lvl 54 Rikti dummy on Beta. No inspira or temp powers set through Apex. Though I ran the Power Analyzer beforehand because I wanted to see the dummy's res stats.

It's an old test build so I do not have a Mids' file. I took screenshots of it's powers/slotting. Build is not fleshed out at all. Could improve with more +recharge and MM attacks. Incarnates used:

Musculature Core Alpha

Degenerative Radial Interface

Ageless Core Destiny

Assault Radial Hybrid (Toggled on).

In the video, damage starts at 1:17 and pylon destroyed at 3:54.

Run Type: Rikti dummy
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary Powerset: Mercenaries
Secondary Powerset: Cold Domination
Time in seconds: 157 (2:37)
Hybrid: Yes (Toggled on)
Number of Runs: 1
Version: i28pg1 Beta
Video Link: https://youtu.be/Dk1xRZ-P2KM
Notes: No inspira/temp powers
Build: Only a screenshot, incomplete build.

I've been needing to add a 54 dummy table to the sheet and am glad to have this run from you once i have more than a screenshot. (cant assume which specific pieces of each set you are using).

However just for context it wont be valid for a current bounty in case that was the intent. If youd like to throw it at the leveless pylon on the other side of the base, that will put you in the competition. Either way i appreciate every submission a ton

VertigoIguana · September 16

Might as well throw my hat into the ring....Been a while since I posted one of these, but I've been messing around with MMs for the last little bit (specifically Marine).

I have a lot of love for /Marine on mastermind....it adds a shocking amount of damage and survivability to the pets. Been running it on live with Beasts and Demons....and on test I've tried the others as well. Damage-wise, Mercs is a little better if signature summons are off the table - Serum (or double serum with burnout) is just too good. They get some build in -kb/mezz protection with perma-serum, which is the big thing my Demons lack (and that's hurt me trying to solo some MoTFs - had to fall back on team insps). Clear speed on x8 is slower with Mercs, despite the better pet damage, and they aren't nearly as tough though. Demon personal attacks, especially when procced out, pack a big punch. Beast isn't bad in that regard either (and the range boost from marine makes for some big big cones).

Interesting to note: the 11 second time below is a build specifically juiced for pylons (added Enflame, Assault instead of Maneuvers, Team Teleport, it has no defense to speak of, and I took out a bunch of rech/-rech protection since I can rely on accolades for burst), but my live build (also attached) really isn't that far off in timing while also being actually usable in game. I clocked a 14 second run with that one, an that's what I run every day against pretty much everything without any issues (on +4x8, with Bosses + AVs).

Something I do that I don't see a lot of Mariners doing is proccing out Shifting Tides, but it actually does help in my experience even if the rate looks kind of anemic. I ran a few tests of the clear speed test mission (with my live build, but making sure the only use of those procs were the ones in Shifting Tides) and parsed the combat log....each proc in shifting tides was equally as valuable as each pet proc I have slotted in the prince. The explosive strike in Demons is a waste though, it only went off twice in the whole mission.

Speaking of the clear speed test (Nerva map with reflections, not mission simulator), my live build clocked in a 6:47, with no temps/lores/etc.. I also had Support Core on my Hybrid (inactive), like I normally run....which is a decent time for an MM I think.

Enough rambling, time below:

EDIT: One more ramble...one thing I did *not* do, is stack brine on the pylon ahead of time to lower it's HP. Not sure it'd make too much of a difference anyway, but Brine causes aggro so wouldn't work in a "real" AV fight (tide pool does not alert though, so I felt fine about pre-dropping that). If it's allowed, I might give it go though, up to you @Koopak

Musculature Core Alpha

Degenerative Radial Interface

Assault Radial Hybrid (Toggled on).

Run Type: Rikti Pylon
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary Powerset: Demon Summoning
Secondary Powerset: Marine
Time in seconds: 0:11
Hybrid: Yes (on)
Number of Runs: 1
Version: i28pg1 Beta

Notes: Sustainable? No....Burnout + Hell on Earth makes it a burst time.

Temps: Signature Summon (Tank), Envenomed Dagger, Boosters

Video Link:

Fight starts at 0:46

Demon11.txt

Ranger Parker - Mastermind (Demon Summoning - Marine Affinity)xPylon.mbd Ranger Parker - Mastermind (Demon Summoning - Marine Affinity)xSpeed2.mbd

Edited September 17 by VertigoIguana

Laucianna · September 17

10 hours ago, VertigoIguana said:

Might as well throw my hat into the ring....Been a while since I posted one of these, but I've been messing around with MMs for the last little bit (specifically Marine).

I have a lot of love for /Marine on mastermind....it adds a shocking amount of damage and survivability to the pets. Been running it on live with Beasts and Demons....and on test I've tried the others as well. Damage-wise, Mercs is a little better if signature summons are off the table - Serum (or double serum with burnout) is just too good. They get some build in -kb/mezz protection with perma-serum, which is the big thing my Demons lack (and that's hurt me trying to solo some MoTFs - had to fall back on team insps). Clear speed on x8 is slower with Mercs, despite the better pet damage, and they aren't nearly as tough though. Demon personal attacks, especially when procced out, pack a big punch. Beast isn't bad in that regard either (and the range boost from marine makes for some big big cones).

Interesting to note: the 11 second time below is a build specifically juiced for pylons (added Enflame, Assault instead of Maneuvers, Team Teleport, it has no defense to speak of, and I took out a bunch of rech/-rech protection since I can rely on accolades for burst), but my live build (also attached) really isn't that far off in timing while also being actually usable in game. I clocked a 14 second run with that one, an that's what I run every day against pretty much everything without any issues (on +4x8, with Bosses + AVs).

Something I do that I don't see a lot of Mariners doing is proccing out Shifting Tides, but it actually does help in my experience even if the rate looks kind of anemic. I ran a few tests of the clear speed test mission (with my live build, but making sure the only use of those procs were the ones in Shifting Tides) and parsed the combat log....each proc in shifting tides was equally as valuable as each pet proc I have slotted in the prince. The explosive strike in Demons is a waste though, it only went off twice in the whole mission.

Speaking of the clear speed test (Nerva map with reflections, not mission simulator), my live build clocked in a 6:47, with no temps/lores/etc.. I also had Support Core on my Hybrid (inactive), like I normally run....which is a decent time for an MM I think.

Enough rambling, time below:

EDIT: One more ramble...one thing I did *not* do, is stack brine on the pylon ahead of time to lower it's HP. Not sure it'd make too much of a difference anyway, but Brine causes aggro so wouldn't work in a "real" AV fight (tide pool does not alert though, so I felt fine about pre-dropping that). If it's allowed, I might give it go though, up to you @Koopak

Musculature Core Alpha

Degenerative Radial Interface

Assault Radial Hybrid (Toggled on).

Run Type: Rikti Pylon
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary Powerset: Demon Summoning
Secondary Powerset: Marine
Time in seconds: 0:11
Hybrid: Yes (on)
Number of Runs: 1
Version: i28pg1 Beta

Notes: Sustainable? No....Burnout + Hell on Earth makes it a burst time.

Temps: Signature Summon (Tank), Envenomed Dagger, Boosters

Video Link:

Fight starts at 0:46

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Ranger Parker - Mastermind (Demon Summoning - Marine Affinity)xPylon.mbd 41.65 kB · 0 downloads Ranger Parker - Mastermind (Demon Summoning - Marine Affinity)xSpeed2.mbd 41.5 kB · 0 downloads

Badass as hell! 😄 Well done hun!!!! ❤️

Koopak · Tuesday at 03:38 PM

15 hours ago, VertigoIguana said:

EDIT: One more ramble...one thing I did *not* do, is stack brine on the pylon ahead of time to lower it's HP. Not sure it'd make too much of a difference anyway, but Brine causes aggro so wouldn't work in a "real" AV fight (tide pool does not alert though, so I felt fine about pre-dropping that). If it's allowed, I might give it go though, up to you @Koopak

Killer time Vert, and yeah i agree with your interpretation here. Brine creates aggro and the -hp is arguably damage by another name. I consider these times to be reflective of boss killing potential (if with some caveats carried over from when we didn't have better tools) so prestacking Brine would definitely violate that intent.

Americas Angel · Saturday at 01:20 PM

Found these vids kicking around.

Flea Rules. (No temps/insps/etc)

Builds attached.

35s Peacebringer:

33s Em/Bio Stalker:

kansas's kheldian 4.0.mbd em bio pylon.mbd

BRADICAL · Saturday at 04:12 PM

As a Demons/Marine enjoyer I figured I'd throw an entry in here as well! It's been my favorite thing to play since Marine came out and really does a lot to make MMs shine. I'll probably keep trying just to see if I can't get it any lower, but getting the stars to align with all the procs is so time consuming.

Notably, I haven't tried with Enflame or procs in Shifting Tides, but I'm not sure it would shave things down by another second honestly. The proc lottery is silly when times are this low and it's mostly just hoping all the -res fires off on a run for Recluse and his pal to hard carry most of it. I'll give it a few ~~(dozen)~~ tries just to see!

The build is Pylon-themed but functional just by using a few unslotters, and is very close to the one I actually run which I've also posted. I respec every other day probably but STILL.

Musculature Core

Reactive Radial

Assault Radial (toggled on)

Run Type: Vanguard Training Pylon
Archetype: Mastermind
Primary Powerset: Demon Summoning
Secondary Powerset: Marine
Time in seconds: 0:10
Hybrid: Yes (toggled on)
Number of Runs: I lost count!
Version: i28pg1 Beta

Sustainable: Not exactly! Burnout + HoE being what it is and the Bane Spider only lasts 1 min.

Temps: Signature Summon (Tank), Recovery Serum, Envenomed Dagger (threw it at the very last second so I'm not sure it actually counts)

Mastermind - Devilheart (Demon Summoning - Marine Affinity) Pylon.mbd Mastermind - Devilheart (Demon Summoning - Marine Affinity).mbd

Edited Saturday at 04:14 PM by BRADICAL

Koopak · Saturday at 08:20 PM

Amazing times, and @BRADICAL that puts you in the lead, not only of the bounty but of the entire leaderboard, huge congratulations.

With regards to your question of Enflame and proced Shifting Tides, I have heard good things about procing Shifting Tides, but I cant speak to how it would work out in such a short run. Enflame on the other hand can theoretically bring another 100-150 damage to the run, but that's damage not dps. Both together MIGHT give the possibility of hitting a 9, but as you yourself said, at these absolutely silly clear times, the amount of damage necessary to cross the next second boundary is nuts.

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