Captain America: Brave New World

[Ghost]

Look interesting at least.

 

@ThaOGDreamWeaver

The 400mill went into basically making the movie twice.

 

[InvaderStych]

If I'm being honest, all I really wanted out of the F&WS series was a whole lot of cheeky banter between Stan and Mackie. Got some, but not nearly enough. Still enjoyed the series, save for a few weak moments here and there.

 

Trailer looks like they're trying to walk in CA:TWS's footsteps, which is great and all, but not enough there in the clip to render judgment. Looks like they mostly painted by numbers on this one, for better or worse. I'll still give it a watch when it hits the D+ though, just for the fun of an action movie diversion.

 

I've been slowly catching up on the various series, and am still several movies behind the curve though.

 

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That said, the Trust A Bro moving company and associated Track-Suit-Gangster-Bros from Hawkeye is one of the funniest gags they've done in quite some time.

[BrandX]

4 hours ago, InvaderStych said:

If I'm being honest, all I really wanted out of the F&WS series was a whole lot of cheeky banter between Stan and Mackie. Got some, but not nearly enough. Still enjoyed the series, save for a few weak moments here and there.

 

Trailer looks like they're trying to walk in CA:TWS's footsteps, which is great and all, but not enough there in the clip to render judgment. Looks like they mostly painted by numbers on this one, for better or worse. I'll still give it a watch when it hits the D+ though, just for the fun of an action movie diversion.

 

I've been slowly catching up on the various series, and am still several movies behind the curve though.

 

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That said, the Trust A Bro moving company and associated Track-Suit-Gangster-Bros from Hawkeye is one of the funniest gags they've done in quite some time.

 

 

 

I thought F&WS was the series with the best action.

[InvaderStych]

19 hours ago, BrandX said:

 

I thought F&WS was the series with the best action.

 

Of the series I've seen to date, I can agree with that. WV and Loki weren't really action-oriented, and I liked both of those quite a bit for different reasons. Particularly the art direction in Loki, which reminded me quite a bit of the designs for Clockworks and Summerland in Legion. (this is a very good thing, imo)

 

Mostly there were a handful of moments of ... not great ... dialog writing in F&WS, imo that dragged it down a bit. Beyond that I did enjoy the watch, even if there wasn't enough of the banter I was hoping for. 😄 

[Greycat]

On 7/11/2024 at 7:10 PM, Ghost said:

I agree.

Mackie is a good actor.

If the movie is good, people will go see it.  

 

Eh.

Might be a good movie, but for me at least... Kind of in Marvel burnout still. (Of course, there's always DC... heheh... ha...yeah, no, not with their track record...)

[Techwright]

On 7/10/2024 at 9:12 AM, Ghost said:

How do you finish an entire movie and only then realize “we forgot to include the title character”

It's Disney.  Sounds like they re-assigned writers from "The Book of Boba Fett" to this movie.  😏

[ThaOGDreamWeaver]

It's nice that they acknowledge the precedent Presidents.

 

 

(Yes I know but it was funny)

[ZacKing]

So Harrison Ford couldn't be arsed to grow a mustache for the role?  Or wear a fake one?  Love him but it's sad to see him wasted on this role.  He's getting long in the tooth for these movies.

[Techwright]

3 hours ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

It's nice that they acknowledge the precedent Presidents.

 

 

(Yes I know but it was funny)

 

Clever. 

 

You have got me wondering, though, if William Sadler's President Ellis will be making an appearance.  He was in multiple works of the 11-year Infinity Saga.  Probably not, at least as president, since we know several years past between Iron Man 3 and Falcon and the Winter Soldier, with five of those in the Snap Blip.  Still, were he to show up in some other political capacity (Senator, Congressman, Supreme Court, Cabinet member, etc.), that would be a nice callback.

[BrandX]

41 minutes ago, Techwright said:

 

Clever. 

 

You have got me wondering, though, if William Sadler's President Ellis will be making an appearance.  He was in multiple works of the 11-year Infinity Saga.  Probably not, at least as president, since we know several years past between Iron Man 3 and Falcon and the Winter Soldier, with five of those in the Snap Blip.  Still, were he to show up in some other political capacity (Senator, Congressman, Supreme Court, Cabinet member, etc.), that would be a nice callback.

 

And he may have been snapped and never got to finish his time as President due to it.

[BrandX]

4 hours ago, ZacKing said:

So Harrison Ford couldn't be arsed to grow a mustache for the role?  Or wear a fake one?  Love him but it's sad to see him wasted on this role.  He's getting long in the tooth for these movies.

 

I agree!  When they cast Harrison Ford I was not happy with it.  I've felt he's phoned in a lot of his recent roles and this looks like another role he just wouldn't care about.  Not to mention HE'S OLD!

[Without_Pause]

18 hours ago, BrandX said:

 

I agree!  When they cast Harrison Ford I was not happy with it.  I've felt he's phoned in a lot of his recent roles and this looks like another role he just wouldn't care about.  Not to mention HE'S OLD!

 General Thunderbolt Ross is old. The actor before him was 71. I don't know how much they expect to use Red Hulk anyway. Once they get voice work done, Red Hulk is essentially just CGI. If I'm Marvel, I'm cranking out as much voice work as I can from Ford. My guess is Marvel just wants him for the end of the current phase with a possible appearance in a long in the making Hulk film. 

[Excraft]

19 hours ago, Krimson said:

Isn't that why Harrison Ford is there? I mean sure, he'll be 83 when the movie is released but his voice probably works fine. 

 

Harrison Ford isn't what he used to be and just having his name attached to a movie isn't instant box office gold.  See Indiana Jones and The Dial of Destiny, Ender's Game etc.

 

18 hours ago, BrandX said:

I agree!  When they cast Harrison Ford I was not happy with it.  I've felt he's phoned in a lot of his recent roles and this looks like another role he just wouldn't care about.  Not to mention HE'S OLD!

 

I completely agree.  His last few performances in Star Wars: TFA, Blade Runner 2049, Indiana Jones and such were all phoned in.  He's not the bankable star he used to be 30 years ago. 

[Excraft]

On 7/14/2024 at 2:07 AM, Techwright said:

It's Disney.  Sounds like they re-assigned writers from "The Book of Boba Fett" to this movie.  😏

 

This sounds to me like another instance of Disney hiring "writers" who know nothing of the source material to write the script.  It's not like they haven't done this before.

[BrandX]

2 hours ago, Without_Pause said:

 General Thunderbolt Ross is old. The actor before him was 71. I don't know how much they expect to use Red Hulk anyway. Once they get voice work done, Red Hulk is essentially just CGI. If I'm Marvel, I'm cranking out as much voice work as I can from Ford. My guess is Marvel just wants him for the end of the current phase with a possible appearance in a long in the making Hulk film. 

 

I get that, but I would've went with someone closer to 60, so they could possibly use him more.

[BrandX]

13 minutes ago, Krimson said:

I'll probably give it a miss, then. It does seem like they just keep throwing things at the wall to see what sticks.

\I'm not going to go THAT far, and the trailer looks like they're trying to be Winter Soldier 2, so I'm hoping for the best.

[Techwright]

7 minutes ago, BrandX said:

 

I get that, but I would've went with someone closer to 60, so they could possibly use him more.

100% this.  Hollywood has some very talented makeup artists.  I'm not the hater of CGI that others are,  I still shudder at how long we keep Harryhausen stop-motion, but makeup is a practical effect.  Even an actor of 70 might get another 3 or 4 films in covering the role.  Not that I like insidious Ross...

 

22 minutes ago, Krimson said:

I'll probably give it a miss, then. It does seem like they just keep throwing things at the wall to see what sticks.

Which is strange.  Even with the hurt to themselves that the MCU team has done this phase, they can still muster just about any person they want: actor, writer, director, producer, etc.  They have a rich published lore from which to work.  There's no reason to be randomly tossing stuff and hoping for the best.

[Without_Pause]

It's unfortunate they already have J. K. Simmons doing Spider-Man films as he would be a great Ross. 

Edited July 18 by Without_Pause

[ZacKing]

20 hours ago, Excraft said:

This sounds to me like another instance of Disney hiring "writers" who know nothing of the source material to write the script.  It's not like they haven't done this before.

 

I think this is exactly it.  I guess Disney hasn't learned their lesson yet.  Hiring writers who don't know and therefore don't respect the source material is a recipe for a box office flop.  Paramount does the same thing with Star Trek.  They've notoriously been bringing on writers who never watched a single episode of Star Trek to write for the shows.  It's stupid if you ask me.

[Techwright]

8 hours ago, ZacKing said:

 

I think this is exactly it.  I guess Disney hasn't learned their lesson yet.  Hiring writers who don't know and therefore don't respect the source material is a recipe for a box office flop.  Paramount does the same thing with Star Trek.  They've notoriously been bringing on writers who never watched a single episode of Star Trek to write for the shows.  It's stupid if you ask me.

In Paramount's case I would add: writers who don't even know basics about space or physics.  I'd mention names, but JJ Abrams has already made himself something of a punching bag.

[Excraft]

Some clips and a short scene of Red Hulk at the end of this video celebrating Marvel's 85th anniversary.

 

Is it just me or is the CGI getting worse and not better?  Can't say this makes me any more interested in seeing CA: BNW.

 

[Triumphant]

Not terribly interested in this one, tbh.  I'll watch it when it eventually hits Disney+

[Techwright]

3 hours ago, Excraft said:

Some clips and a short scene of Red Hulk at the end of this video celebrating Marvel's 85th anniversary.

 

Is it just me or is the CGI getting worse and not better?  Can't say this makes me any more interested in seeing CA: BNW.

 

 

Someone dropped a comment about this elsewhere (I forget where I was hearing it as I was reading and hearing a lot right then) that spoke like there's a drive in the upcoming movies to put both the Thunderbolts and the New Avengers ...

Spoiler

...on War World.  I've no further information, and have no idea where they got that info. However, If I'm correct on who relayed it to me, he's known for being careful in his research.  That's not to say that Marvel hasn't begun disseminating fake news to muddy the thruth.

 

There was also a statement that Ultron is making a return with James Spader reprising the role.  While this retcons Age of Ultron (if you watch the movie with this in mind, you'll see that Ultron was limited in spreading for several reasons, and that the one which confronted Vision was the last...originally.), it's not too much of a stretch to think the Ultron AI escaped into the internet and has just been looking for a method to construct a new body or three thousand.

 

As for the CGI, it was already getting worse with Avengers: Infinity War.  Watch it keeping an eye on Banner in the Hulkbuster armor to see what I mean.  It came out that certain Powers That Be had been taskmastering a couple of CGI houses to produce too much in too little time.  It wasn't that the CGI artists weren't capable, but that they were forced to over-perform with too little of a deadline.

[Without_Pause]

I take more issue with having Red Hulk after Stan Lee. Even if you got a new movie to promote, there is no need to follow Stan Lee. I'm still wait and see on the film. 

[TTRPGWhiz]

On 8/26/2024 at 3:36 PM, Without_Pause said:

I take more issue with having Red Hulk after Stan Lee. Even if you got a new movie to promote, there is no need to follow Stan Lee. I'm still wait and see on the film. 

 

I personally am very ready for Marvel fandom generally to move away from the notion that Stan Lee requires some sort of obeisance. 
 

Edited August 30 by TTRPGWhiz