Super Sentai or Transformation Character?

[biostem]

I was trying to come up with an AT where the character would play one way in their "base state" and another in their "powered up" form.  My initial thought was to go with a blaster, where I could use the blasts in the armored/powered-up form, and the secondary melee attacks in their normal mode, but then I was thinking something like a sentinel with the fighting pool could also work.  A Dominator also came to mind, but in that case, the control powers don't quite translate as well to the concept, IMO, (maybe gravity control could work for the mecha/powered-up form).  I suppose I could roll a melee AT and just not consider the character "complete" until I have their APP/PP, but that seems a bit longer into their career than I'd like.  Your thoughts?

 

Additional note - I'd want to use my own costumes for the various modes, so Kheldians with Nova and Dwarf wouldn't really work, and I'd like a bit more flexibility as to what particular powers I ended up going with than a SoA/Widow would permit...

[TygerDarkstorm]

Hm, this is an interesting concept. At first I was thinking it was similar to my savage/bio brute who takes on an alternate form for battle, but you're expanding the concept beyond just a costume change into battle.

 

I do think your blaster idea seems like it would be a good fit for what you're trying to do, though you'd have to be careful of coming too close to being Super Saiyan I suppose, but their power picks seem to fit your concept well. I do think a dominator could be a good fit as well. Technically, doms are more about the assault as their controls are only there to set up a fight, then you spend most of your time using the assault abilities. Symphony might not fit your concept, but it's a very blasty control set like gravity if you wanted the controls to be the flashier, powered up portion.

[biostem]

28 minutes ago, TygerDarkstorm said:

I do think your blaster idea seems like it would be a good fit for what you're trying to do

My initial idea was something like an energy blast/ninja training blaster - The blasts would be while in the armored mode, and the sword, dart, and dust attacks while in base human form.  Of course, I'd use different costumes and related costume change emotes to switch between forms as well...

[TygerDarkstorm]

1 hour ago, biostem said:

My initial idea was something like an energy blast/ninja training blaster - The blasts would be while in the armored mode, and the sword, dart, and dust attacks while in base human form.  Of course, I'd use different costumes and related costume change emotes to switch between forms as well...

I was thinking energy blast for the primary as well, Ninja training I could see working for your concept. Martial combat might be another one that could work for it as well.

[WumpusRat]

Closest thing I have to that is a character that's a mastermind in a mech that she can only use for a limited time (it's got power source issues).

 

In her "base" form she's got an energy rifle and a couple of force blasts from her gauntlets. Then she can "power up" by calling in a mecha (using a prismatic costume of a cataphract) that can deploy smaller mech to fight alongside it in battle. 

[biostem]

1 minute ago, TygerDarkstorm said:

Martial combat might be another one that could work for it as well.

I was considering martial combat, but ki push, burst of speed, and reaction time feel a bit too super-powered for the base form, (though I suppose I could only use those in the powered-up form)...

[TygerDarkstorm]

2 minutes ago, biostem said:

I was considering martial combat, but ki push, burst of speed, and reaction time feel a bit too super-powered for the base form, (though I suppose I could only use those in the powered-up form)...

Oh you're right, I didn't think about how those might be a little too super. Hm... classic energy/energy? I was thinking atomic, but looking at it again, it might be too super. I'm not sure if any of the other blaster secondaries really fit.

[biostem]

Just now, TygerDarkstorm said:

I didn't think about how those might be a little too super.

It's tough to pick a "mundane" blaster secondary.  Devices could work if I mixed in the fighting pool, but I'm still leaning toward ninja training, lol!

[TygerDarkstorm]

2 minutes ago, biostem said:

It's tough to pick a "mundane" blaster secondary.  Devices could work if I mixed in the fighting pool, but I'm still leaning toward ninja training, lol!

I thought devices as well, but yeah, wasn't sure it was too ranged or if it fit what you're looking for. I say give the energy/ninja a try and see if it fits the concept. 😄 

[biostem]

1 minute ago, TygerDarkstorm said:

I thought devices as wel

The issue is the lack of direct attacks in devices.  It could work for a more high-tech take on the concept, though...

[TygerDarkstorm]

3 minutes ago, biostem said:

The issue is the lack of direct attacks in devices.  It could work for a more high-tech take on the concept, though...

Yeah, that makes sense. If you did get the dominator bug, sounds like martial assault would fit.

[biostem]

3 hours ago, TygerDarkstorm said:

Yeah, that makes sense. If you did get the dominator bug, sounds like martial assault would fit.

 

So after much tinkering, here's what I came up with - An energy blast/ninja training blaster.  I called her "The Comet Ranger":

 

     

[Psyonico]

Ninja Training is a pretty solid set, so I think you'll be good on that front.

 

I really like both of your costumes.  Especially the "powered up" one looks really good.

[TygerDarkstorm]

Agreed with Psy, the character turned out great!

[Ringo]

15 hours ago, WumpusRat said:

Closest thing I have to that is a character that's a mastermind in a mech that she can only use for a limited time (it's got power source issues).

 

In her "base" form she's got an energy rifle and a couple of force blasts from her gauntlets. Then she can "power up" by calling in a mecha (using a prismatic costume of a cataphract) that can deploy smaller mech to fight alongside it in battle. 

I really like this idea!

You can definitely do something similar with an Undead Transformation on a Necromancer, or more of a "reveal my secret allegiance" costume swap with Ninja/Mercs/Demons/Thugs

 

... I guess you could reveal your fursona for Beasts...

[Nutation]

You can also have multiple builds. Pick more of one or the other power set + pool powers in each form, leave the remaining illegal powers without enhancements. You can't switch often using this method - you are limited to every 15 minutes, and every power is on cooldown when you switch.

[gameboy1234]

19 hours ago, biostem said:

I was trying to come up with an AT where the character would play one way in their "base state" and another in their "powered up" form.  My initial thought was to go with a blaster, where I could use the blasts in the armored/powered-up form, and the secondary melee attacks in their normal mode, but then I was thinking something like a sentinel with the fighting pool could also work.

 

Blaster would probably be my first choice, with the power-up being whatever you like.  Energy Blast probably being my first option for powers. An actual henshin would be also my first thought, with a full new set of clothing or armored gear, but I'm sure there's other ideas too.

 

I also have a Titan Weapon brute with power armor who "powers up" for fights. And I have a more classic brute, a large green man (Atomic Bulk, don't generic me!) who also "powers up" and loses half his clothing in the process.

 

I do have a Sent who powers up.  He's a riff on an old doll, Captain Action, who came with a variety of gear and face masks to let him look like a number of other superheroes.  My character wears disguises, to confuse and prey on the superstitions of his enemies.  It's a weird schtick but it's actually fun to play around with deliberately different costumes rather than clustering around a theme.

 

[WanderingAries]

Oh, I thought this was a new AT suggestion. Kinda like the ability to do a Jekyll and Hyde type character. It would have to be a ground up AT for sure, but would be interesting.

[Ringo]

Back on live one of my SGmates triggered a costume change whenever he used Nova on his Energy Blaster, it looked very cool

[tidge]

Alternating between builds is probably the easiest way to have a "no obvious powers" build.

 

Other options:  widows can go multiple ways, and/or lean into the Leadership powers for one... but then you are limited in the types of attacks in a way you may not want.

 

Something like a Traps primary/secondary could be somewhat "civilian-like" for non-Blaster options.

[biostem]

49 minutes ago, tidge said:

Alternating between builds is probably the easiest way to have a "no obvious powers" build.

My current plan is to use the ninja attacks in human form and the energy blasts while in the armored form.