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So if anyone has been paying attention to my messages in the Discord, you'd probably see that I've been working on the Zone Overview page a lot. I rearranged the Zones to match the changes made up to Issue 27, added every missing Zone and their original lore names, added the alignment icons to show who can go where, and most recently added as many of the game's unique travel shortcut methods as I've been able to find which at the moment is 18, though I found 2 more today that I have to make pages for (The Vanguard DPO portals and the Shadow Shard Portals) which is why I've been so focused on revamping those pages.

Currently I've revamped the pages for TUNNEL System, Paragon City Monorail, and the Cole Transportation Authority, but I've got two changes in mind that I wanted to run by everyone first before I put them into action.

1. I want to change the "Ferry" page to "Nautical Transport" because only two of the four boats are actually ferries, as well as merge all the stops into one table, here's an example I've quickly coded up.
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2. I want to merge the "Black Helicopter Transport" and "Free Fire Zone Transport" pages into an "Aerial Transport" page with a similar style table as above.

 

I personally think that these are great ideas and I might go as far as making a similar grouped page for TUNNEL, Shadow Shard Portal, and Vanguard DPO portals but I wanted to see if others think these changes would make using the wiki as a reference guide as easy as I believe it would.

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Overall I like it. I was a bit dubious about the table initially, then I visited the ferry page and saw that the stops are all listed out anyway. I definitely think that the table is the most useful way to present that info.

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48 minutes ago, Doc_Scorpion said:

I like the idea of an easy to read table.  I do not like the idea of using names not found in game.

Well that's the point of having grouped together pages for similar content, it keeps the wiki from having multiple stub sized pages that have currently been redirected anyway, and Ferry only applies to two of the subjects while my suggestion applies to all current and future ones.

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So I realized that while my table showed all of the overlapping travel points, it didn't show the alignment required which is important to know if you're trying to navigate between them, so I did a few coding adjustments.
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I suggest lightening the background grey tone, it's dark and there's not enough contrast between the foreground text and the background.

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46 minutes ago, Jacke said:

I suggest lightening the background grey tone, it's dark and there's not enough contrast between the foreground text and the background.

I'll have to check mediawiki to see if there's code for that, though the colors it uses right now is cause I use the wiki in dark mode.

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On 11/14/2024 at 7:14 AM, Mathew322 said:

I'll have to check mediawiki to see if there's code for that, though the colors it uses right now is cause I use the wiki in dark mode.

 

Then the Wiki Dark Mode isn't right, at least on charts, as it should have shifted the foreground objects to much lighter tones to maintain contrast.

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I like your changes!

 

So... it's weird... even though they are correct... the terms "Nautical Transport" and "Aerial Transport" rub me the wrong way. Meanwhile, "Sea Transports" and "Air Transports" seem nice. Not sure why. It might just be me. 😉

 

Definitely make the columns for the ferries, ship, and submarine stand out as separate. Right now it all seems to blend in together and it's hard to tell where one begins and the other ends. You can do it a zillion different ways... make some of the cell border lines invisible, thicken some of the borders, change the background color for each column (could do something like light gray, white, light gray, white or just make each column a different background color, etc.   

 

Otherwise, FANTASTIC!

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20 hours ago, BlackSpectre said:

I like your changes!

 

So... it's weird... even though they are correct... the terms "Nautical Transport" and "Aerial Transport" rub me the wrong way. Meanwhile, "Sea Transports" and "Air Transports" seem nice. Not sure why. It might just be me. 😉

 

Definitely make the columns for the ferries, ship, and submarine stand out as separate. Right now it all seems to blend in together and it's hard to tell where one begins and the other ends. You can do it a zillion different ways... make some of the cell border lines invisible, thicken some of the borders, change the background color for each column (could do something like light gray, white, light gray, white or just make each column a different background color, etc.   

 

Otherwise, FANTASTIC!

Sure those are good suggestions, I came up with Nautical and Aerial cause I figured they would sound more formal and fit the "Greek" aesthetic in the lore of City of Heroes, but I'm certainly not opposed to Sea and Air. ^.^

 

And yeah, I need to see if there's a way to distinguish the table a little more, I did the extra sorting for the second version and it took me a moment to interpret just how to read it correctly.

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