There should be a way to take away levels....

[High_Beam]

Epic Time Manipulation.  People would take a Defender more seriously if there was the threat of them draining you to level 48.

[tidge]

[mistagoat]

10 hours ago, Scarlet Shocker said:

 

What about the option to visit a Hero Corpse rep and say "I want to play at level XX and not earn XP" and hey presto, you get to be at XX until you go visit them again?

 

This would be awesome and a feature that I have often wanted and would certainly use!

 

1 hour ago, UltraAlt said:

 

Yeah. Get xp debuffers from the Start vendor to turn your XP growth into -XP until you fight your way down to the desired level.

"I want 8 hour of -2XP please!"

 

... and then debt happens ... "Darn it! I can't lose an more XP until I use XP to work off this debt!"

 

 

 

This is a great idea too! Though if you're a fully IO'd 50 and you roll back 10 levels, it may get tricky in regards to slots. I guess it would probably leave the slots in place and grey them out and remove those set bonuses as if they hadn't been placed yet. Or perhaps it just removes the slots and returns the enhancers to your tray. I don't know, that would need some thought but I like the idea!

 

Ideally both of these could be implemented so you have a path to both a temporary level reduction and a permanent level reduction. Best of both worlds!

[Doc_Scorpion]

2 hours ago, mistagoat said:

Though if you're a fully IO'd 50 and you roll back 10 levels, it may get tricky in regards to slots. I guess it would probably leave the slots in place and grey them out and remove those set bonuses as if they hadn't been placed yet. Or perhaps it just removes the slots and returns the enhancers to your tray. I don't know, that would need some thought but I like the idea!

The game only keeps tracks of how many slots a particular power has assigned and what's in them.  It does not track when (at what level) those slots were assigned to a given power.

[mistagoat]

4 minutes ago, Doc_Scorpion said:

The game only keeps tracks of how many slots a particular power has assigned and what's in them.  It does not track when (at what level) those slots were assigned to a given power.

Hmmm, okay that will make "unleveling" a bit challenging. Maybe at each "level down" you'd still have to go to a trainer and select the slots to be removed and the enhancers are returned to your tray.

[Scarlet Shocker]

16 hours ago, SirBronco said:

That would work as long as you could go backward. 🤔😉

 

Have you tried the "S" key? 🤣

[SirBronco]

Love these ideas. Now you are starting to think like I wanted it to be. Roll my experience back to 49. I DON’T want to be 50. 🤔🤷‍♂️

[UltraAlt]

12 hours ago, mistagoat said:

This is a great idea too! Though if you're a fully IO'd 50 and you roll back 10 levels, it may get tricky in regards to slots.

 

I could see treating this just like something you outlevel going the other way. It would turn red and no longer apply any effects.

Anything that has turned red could be removed through the normal process: deletion or removal with an unslotter.

 

12 hours ago, mistagoat said:

Or perhaps it just removes the slots and returns the enhancers to your tray.

 

Sounds like a good as well.

 

12 hours ago, mistagoat said:

I don't know, that would need some thought but I like the idea!

 

Thinking this through as I go.

 

This would be automatic as it would be due to de-leveling. 

I'm assuming if they aren't open enhancement slots in the tray that any enhancement would be lost.

 

The problem would be determining what slots or powers would be removed.

I guess it could be that you would need to go to a trainer - like you do with leveling - and you would select a power or slots to be removed. This would give  you a chance to remove enhancements through the normal process that you were planning on removing.

 

"You must select a power to be removed in order to delevel."

"You must select 3 slots to be removed in order to delevel."

 

12 hours ago, mistagoat said:

Ideally both of these could be implemented so you have a path to both a temporary level reduction and a permanent level reduction. Best of both worlds!

 

The option to go to a contact - such as Null the Gull - to change level has been brought up in the past. 

Of course, we don't know what the Devs are doing, but I would guess that this path isn't a possible one.

 

I don't mess with builds.

What happens if you save build at level 20, then level up to 30 or 40 (save that build) and then switch to that level 20 build?

[Frozen Burn]

2 hours ago, SirBronco said:

Love these ideas. Now you are starting to think like I wanted it to be. Roll my experience back to 49. I DON’T want to be 50. 🤔🤷‍♂️

 

I am curious, as I am not fully understanding your reasoning here....  

 

You don't like the incarnate system - got that, and that is perfectly fine.  👍   But when you turn 50, you are not an incarnate.  All you get is your final 3 slots.  Nothing more.  You can just be a regular, non-incarnate toon but at level 50.  Yes, you'll continue to earn XP and get incarnate threads and empyrean merits with veteran levels, but you do not have to do anything with them and can ignore them (as suggested above).  You can play as normal like at lvl 49, but with 3 final slots for your build.  

 

So, what's really wrong with being "50" and just taking your final 3 slots?  ...again, just curious.  🙂  ...maybe you don't want the final 3 slots for your builds?  ...don't like the number 50?  🤣  

 

[SirBronco]

Don’t like the number 50 and DON’T want the last three slots. Hitting 50 means I should hit the Incarnate build which I have tried and failed to learn. At 49 I feel I don’t need to learn it and can start a new toon. I guess it is just my comfort zone to stop at 49. 🤷‍♂️

[UltraAlt]

4 hours ago, Frozen Burn said:

So, what's really wrong with being "50" and just taking your final 3 slots?  ...again, just curious.

 

My reasoning behind it as I feel that it is wrong for level 50's to have their names as long as the game remains active regardless of the hours played (we know how easy it is to PL to 50), but a character has been played for far mor hours can have their name removed if they don't log in within a year.

 

I make sure my characters get logged in frequently regardless. I'm doing it here. I did it before the Sunset.

 

But this is an ethical point to me.

Why should someone that PL's character to 50 just to "lock a name" have that name permanently?

 

I think I have 3 50's. But I won't be leveling up past 49 any longer. And I have "level-locked" many characters at levels lower than 49. Some so that I will have characters around the level range of certain content. Others because I have reached the level where I think they should be due to character conception.

 

We all play our own way. The goal for each of us is to have fun playing the game.

 

The incarnate system isn't the horrible 💩 it was before the Sunset, but it pretty much still a 💩as far as I'm concerned.

I'm making characters to play in the superhero environment. I don't consider my characters to be incarnations of gods or possess the power of the gods.

 

I also don't like end-game content. I don't run Hami Raids. I don't join level PI police scanner teams. I don't fire farm; I don't farm at all.