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Linea Durability Ratings Anything rated above 2 can tank the majority of official content. Tanks rate up to 13. Brutes rate up to 10. ANY Tank or Brute can rate at least 6. ... The only possible exception would be regen, I just don't see that many regens these days. Scrappers, Stalkers, and Sentinels up to 6. I would rate some truly exceptional Controllers and Doms as 6, but in general these will rate lower. Veats, Heats, Defenders rate up to 5. Masterminds, Corruptors, Controllers and Doms are not far behind Defenders, and also rate up to 5, but are much harder to get there. Blasters rate up to 3 or 4. Defenses Armors rate up to 13 Resist Armors rate up to 6 Heal-Tank Armors rate up to 5
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Scrapper resist cap is 75% ... if a mob is tossing 1000 dps, you'll take 250 dps of damage. (assuming you build for the resist cap, vs an offensive build) Brute resist cap is 90% ... if a mob is tossing 1000 dps, you'll take 100 dps of damage. (assuming you build for the resist cap, vs an offensive build) 250 incoming dps on the scrapper / 100 incoming dps on the brute = 2.5 x more incoming dps on the scrapper. Assuming you stand there and take it without doing anything else about it, the brute will live 15 seconds, while the scrapper will live 5 seconds.
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As a rule, I do not generally recommend resist armors on 75% resist cap ATs, due to the 2.5x incoming damage issue. These are old builds from the archives, none are offensively oriented, none are proc builds, but they may or may not be helpful: Kat Rad Brute - Tacidar - Mu 4 (Psi-Tank) - [i25].mxd Rad Kat Tank - Radicat II - Mu 3f - [i25].mxd Kat Rad Scrapper - Radicat-S 3a - [i25].mxd BS SD Scrapper - Hasten 2 - [i25].mxd
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KM: Nascar Melee. If you can get past the sound effects ... PsiM: Is very unlikely to perform the way you expect it to. BS/SD: Yes. Kat/Rad: Yes. Scrapper 1/3 more damage, Brute 2.5x more peak durability. Pick your preference.
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With both primaries and secondaries proc-built for full damage on full tier 4 damage built incarnates. The other major note would be Stalkers hit high damage much more easily and with less effort, but tend to peak a bit lower than the mirrored scrapper, and trend toward less AoE. But if you want easy relatively high ST dps, Stalkers are a good choice.
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WARNING: Do not attempt 801.6 and above unless you have tried the lower difficulties and found them too easy. +4x8 801.6 and higher generate 3.5k+ sustained dps, with frequent 10k+ spikes, and rare 20k+ dps spikes. This is 98% Fatal to Solo Unsupported 75% resist cap ATs. AE 801.6 - Redesign For those teams that both obliterate 801.5 but also fail 801.7, I'm redesigning 801.6 to better fit between those two difficulties and present a challenge but not a failure. Assuming you have trounced 801.5 mercilessly, but struggle with 801.7, then search for "801.6" in AE. Have Fun Dying. Data tldr: Most Tanks and Brutes built to max durability should be able to solo this, ... but probably can't. Armored Squishies Fail Solo - Even my most durable defender only survived 10m +4x8 solo. However, Armored controllers or dominators might do very well using "Control Is Armor", just try not to blink and/or over-aggro. Armored 75% resist cap AT Resist Armors - with rdr cap will almost always fail due to 2.5x incoming damage. Armored 75% resist cap AT Defense Armors - with rdr cap and ddr cap may pass, but will fail if you let either rdr or ddr fail. The same 2.5x incoming damage leaves you very little room for mistakes. Armored 90% resist cap AT Resist Armors - with rdr cap should pass. The builds I tested passed. I was perma-red -50 defense, rdr capped, but survived over 30m. An unlucky TA at the just wrong moment could in theory kill me, but never did. But it would only take one mistake on my part to drop like a rock. Armored 90% resist cap AT Defense Armors - with ddr cap backed by above average resists should pass. There were times my resist dropped dangerously, but I still survived. There were other times my defense slipped a little, but resist stayed up, and I also survived those. But If I really messed up and let both slip, I'm sure they could kill me. But Unlike the squishier ATs, I'd have to try pretty hard to let that happen with the tanks. Famous Last Words. I did not test any of the Heal-Tank armors, as I expect the majority of those fail in 801.5 solo. I removed blinds completely, due to design issues with the AE spawndefs. I should probably add ONE EB encounter back in. I removed cannons, x-models, and other Rad/ Snipers completely. Replaced them with more distributed -defense that is a bit less likely to take that first bite. I may need to add ONE cannon back in as well. Cannons are very effective at Alpha stripping defense armor for a few seconds, but then letting go if you recover. The current setup is slower to set in and take a bite, and much less likely to sustain. The downside may be that even minor defense buffs end up being overly effective vs this design, making the missions too easy. If that turns out to be the case I'll add a single EB Cannon back in. I had to back off the raw dps to help ensure Tank Resist armors passed. This may or may not need further adjustment either direction. I had to rebalance -healing and -healing_received multiple times. I had to completely remove benumb and then /Cold altogether due to interactions with the new improved /TA. I had to remove /Poison as well due to interactions with /TA. I may have removed too much -regen. Currently it shutsdown non-regen sets part of the time, but any +regen buffs from any source kicks regen back in. This may need just a tiny nudge upwards to be more effective vs some non-regen sets. Files Order and Sorting Matter. To be able to use the files you'll need to use the command line to 'type "ic - 6041.bvg" > "ic - 6041.cvg"' while editing the cvg in-game, in order to force the spawndef order. Otherwise it just clumps it all up alphabetically and you'll get erratic undesirable results in the spawns. Even done correctly the spawns are a bit erratic as the spawndef isn't setup for this kind of group. It iterates 'Random index, Sequential 4' over and over till it gets 16 entities. This WILL create not entirely intended results. BA-45a Archer (B) Super_Strength (.1...56...) / Trick_Arrow (....4.6.8.) BA-45b Hunter (B) Super_Strength (.1...56...) / Trick_Arrow (0.2....7..) BB-45j Javelin (B) Beam_Rifle (.1234.67..) / Gadgets (...3.5....) BB-45s Resonator (B) Super_Strength (.1...56...) / Sonic_Debuff (012.......) BC-45i Storm Trooper (B) Super_Strength (.1...56...) / Storm_Summoning (...34.....) BC-61e Shocker (B) Electric_Control (01234567..) / Gadgets (...3.5....) Corporal (B) Mercenaries (012..56...) / Pain_Domination (....456...) DA-53s Disruptor (B) Sonic_Attack (012.45.7..) / Gadgets (...3.5....) Engineer (B) Beam_Rifle (.12.4.6...) / Radiation_Emission (..23..6...) Heavy Gunner (B) Beam_Rifle (.12.4.67..) / Gadgets (...3.5....) Marksman (B) Assault_Rifle (0.23...7..) / Gadgets (...3.5....) Operative (B) Beam_Rifle (.1..456...) / Willpower (012..56...) Ranger (B) Beam_Rifle (.1234.6...) / Ninjitsu (012..5..8.) Rifleman (B) Assault_Rifle (.123...7..) / Gadgets (...3.5....) Scout Sniper (B) Beam_Rifle (.1234.6...) / Ninjitsu (012.45....) Sergeant (B) Dual_Pistols (.1..4.678.) / Gadgets (...3.5..8.) T-31 Interceptor (B) Savage_Assault (.1234.6.8.) / Gadgets (...3.5....) IC - 6041.cvg ic6-6041.r220321.txt ic6-6041.r220321.7z IC-8016-Static.storyarc IC - 6041.bvg cvgui.pl
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I see you're not going for a proc offense build, so ... Swap Maneuvers for Cloak: I would normally recommend scrapper EnM Ena ShadowMeld Scrapper - 801 - Recharge-T9 ver 2J - [i25].mxd However, with this version that breaks the build for non-overload play. This build was intended as always overload, but with 45 defense backup (+Shadowmeld and Energydrain on top of that) when not in overload. The swap drops 45 to 44, which is not good. You could in theory make up for that by always using energy drain, but I don't consider it ideal. IMO, You'd have to almost completely rework this to make anything usable out of it without cloak. Swap Weave for Cloak: EnM Ena Brute - 801 D+ - T9 3L - EF Tactics - [i27].mxd The brute variant I'd most recommend is not Psionic certified, but with EF it can pseudo AoE taunt, and has more AoE to help make up for EnM' lack. It also has Tactics to deal with Blinds. As well as an extra slot for a psionic proc to punch through Resist-T9s. Also BU is slotted to maximum proc chance to also punch through Defense-T9s. Swap Weave for Cloak: EnM Ena Brute - 801 G - T9 3L - GLM DN Tactics - [i27].mxd This version is Psionic certified, and is one of the most durable brutes you'll find. However, you lose offense, Aoe, and pseudo-taunt capability as the price. I originally did this version first, then scaled back on the durability for the above version instead. Note: None of these are leveling builds, even if I may or may not have leveled with them.
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They are around. If they ever got their two primary debuffs increased to 15' radius instead of 8', no one would every play anything else. 😜 They are very effective, just in a smaller radius than most would like. As an aside: I have to nerf the crap out /poison in 801 to keep them from completely obliterating their victims. Poison and Cold both. Which means I suspect they are nicely effective in PvP, but I don't pvp.
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That was a long time ago. That may have been before perma-snipes, or it could be level and slotting options and level 35 power overcrowding. Or it may just not have made enough difference in dps. I vaguely recall trying different builds, and the snipe version only being a minor difference. It's worth retesting now, a lot of things have changed.
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I did near-perma near-self-damage-cap mirrors, defender and corruptor. I think this is the build, if not, it was one very close to this: Nature Fire - Fourcade 2td - [i25].mxd Here's a DP variant from the archives, probably an older incarnation from the initial planning stages. I built the Fire variant instead: Nature DP - Fourcade 2 - [i25].mxd
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The Tank Mage: Solo ITF With A Fire Blast Invulnerability Sentinel
Linea replied to VoidSpawn2's topic in Sentinel
Congratulations. While I'm not quite as enthusiastic about sentinels, they do fill a role rather nicely. I've soloed a +4x8 ITF with all of mine, as well. -
Time/ can be built dozens of different ways. I have over a dozen variations live on different servers, and even more mothballed. If you want a solid offensive build I'd suggest Bopper's thread. If you want a cutting edge, seat of your pants offensive build, then I'd suggest Dahkness' thread. That build just barely skirts by on the skin of it's teeth, but in return pushes all the extra resources into offense. If you want to make a tank cry in envy. My builds are straight up tanks, not dps. If you want extreme defense you can look at something like: Time DP - Kiski - STF SLE Malfactor 2 - [i25].mxd This also gives you resists with Rune/Hybrid/Rune/Demonic. You can then push that even more insane by added Dampeners to push SL defense up into the 90s and bring E resists up so that you are very 60s SLE resist. Amps and Base Buffs will cap SLE resists and then push SLE defenses even higher. Fire Def/Res was just an accident. There's a great deal to running Time/ that isn't apparent in mids and can only be seen live in-game. There is a very strong argument for NOT going scorpion, and instead go PBU or PB ... This can boost all your defenses another 12 or so defense, pushing everything into the 70s, not just SLE only. Clarion_Radial, used as Clarion_Radial*PBU*FS can push this another 8 or 10. You won't be able to see this (correctly) in Mids. Clarion_Radial*PBU*Vengeance on top of that is just plain laughable, you'd risk actually hitting the defense hard cap. That wouldn't happen often due to timing, but if it did it'd be hilarious.
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Line 2 is (effectively) the content of file5 Line 3 is (effectively) the content of file6 They point to each other with the 0 key functioning as a reset/resync ... as lag fubars press/hold/release binds from time to time. You have to edit them to fit how and where you put bind files. I always but bind files in <insert path>/coh/kb/file.txt But if you don't do the same, it will break for you. Also, I'm using 3 keys, you'd want to edit the extras out. 3 because one of the characters uses 3 different emotes and some randomization that's off-topic. the 5 and 6 version doesn't include that, but binds all three keys for consistency between characters. Press/Hold/Release binds will take some patience and learning if you've never done them before. they are not just drag and drop and it works. HornetF5.txt HornetF6.txt
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lately I've been using a jury-rigged translocation as a combat teleport. Press and Hold F10 to spin up mystic flight, release to teleport to target and toggle off mystic flight. 0 "powexecslot 10$$bindloadfilesilent .\kb\HornetF5.txt" F10 "+$$powexectoggleon mystic flight$$bindloadfilesilent .\kb\HornetF6.txt" F10 "+$$powexectoggleoff mystic flight$$powexeclocation target translocation$$bindloadfilesilent .\kb\HornetF5.txt" The follow itself could easily be added, but I do that with a separate key. Something like ... 0 "powexecslot 10$$bindloadfilesilent .\kb\HornetF5.txt" F10 "+$$autorun 0$$forward 0$$powexectoggleon mystic flight$$bindloadfilesilent .\kb\HornetF6.txt" F10 "+$$follow$$powexectoggleoff mystic flight$$powexeclocation target translocation$$bindloadfilesilent .\kb\HornetF5.txt"
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WTF Killed Me ?!? So I'm running 801.7 with my Rad/Kat tank, and the exact same thing happened the next day with my Kat/EnA Brute .... We cleared the whole map only one group left, so I say WTH "Hold my Beer!". Things didn't go well. What Happened? We had a particularly nasty RNG spawn of Rad Blast Sniper, Cold Domination, and Trick Arrow, as well as a full support crew of Snipers, Nukes, and the works. Rad Blast - This guy has BU and Aim, 10 seconds of hell, not that he needs it vs Rad Armor, a resist set. If he hits you, he can drop you to -50 defense or worse in a blink. It might only last 10 seconds, but that's long enough if he has support to follow it up and shove a knife into the crack in your armor that he opened up. Now at -50 Defense, everything, and I mean everything is going to hit you. Cold Domination - This guy can literally remove your enhancements, and drop you to the resist floor. I'm resist and rdr capped, but that doesn't mean anything vs -special and getting your enhancements ripped out of your guts. Now, I'm no longer resist nor rdr capped. -enhance drops what was 100+% resist (capped at 90) down to the 80s. Now not only is there a crack in my defenses, there's a crack in my otherwise impeccable resists. Now at 80% resist ... those -resist debuffs that could drop an unarmored target to -300 or -400, drop me to what might as well be no resist at all. Now with mid 20s resists ... I live just over a second. IF and only IF, I'm lucky. Trick Arrow - This guy debuffs everything, and is possibly the single most dangerous mob in the mission. It's a shame I didn't live long enough for him to kill me. 🤕 If that isn't enough Disruptors are Sonic Blast designed specifically to supply additional -resist. The AoE support and Nukes are Beam Nukes that pack -resist as well. There are also rare /Rad Emission debuffers as well. So This is Impossible !?! No, not all. Support - All it took in this case was waiting for @Lummi to arrive and buff me, then support as I went all Leroy. Barrier - Barrier's main component is entirely too short lived. But as it turns out, that's really all I would have needed. However, on my resist builds I almost always run Rebirth or Ageless. Candy - I tried this, but didn't gobble up enough. Barrier is the better choice. And I'm sure there are other solutions ...
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Sometimes. Time/: oh @#$%. I have 9 variations spread across 3 characters, maybe more ... I'd have to count. FF/Beam Defender: PBU*Clarion Incarnate Buffs, General/Malfactor Build, Offense. FF/DP: 801 Build, Malfactor/General Build, Offense Tank: Psi-Tank, 801-Tank, Offense Stalker/Scrapper: 801 Build, Offense Fortunata: Ranged Control, Melee-Fort Kat/Ena: 801.6 and 801.A builds
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Mids link for Rad Melee Fire Aura Brute that can farm?
Linea replied to golstat2003's topic in Brute
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Pain/ 'can' solo, but it's going to be very painful as your first character on a SO only build. I don't recommend it. You have plenty to learn without picking one of the hardest paths possible. There are people that do it that way on purpose for the challenge. I've done it that way, once. I don't recommend it. Team - Once you have your first 50, you can make 3m/hr pretty easily, and 3m is enough to SO another build. At this point SO builds can start raining from the trees. ... Eventually you'll want IO builds, so see marketing or farming below. Sell your orange salvage .... at 500k a pop it shouldn't take long to have enough to fully SO a build and/or have seed money for marketing to eventually afford IO builds. The above guide should help with that. Numerous other guides exist detailing level 1 to 50 from scratch, if you can find them, it's very doable with enough knowledge and experience. Read the marketing guide (see link above) ... this is the best way to make money with a brand new level 1 .... kill stuff till you get your first orange salvage drop, sell it for seed money, market your way to billions ... (This was the easiest to find guide, many many more exist if you hunt long enough) For a first character, there are definitely better choices. If you want defender: FF, Traps, EAfn ... these can play like defender versions of sentinels. Sentinel ... you can play these on straight up SO only builds. They are not the best AT for veterans, but they really do fill the niche fairly well for beginner players. Huntsman ... The original Sentinel, and also a defender all rolled into one. (VEAT Soldier, these used to be locked until you had at least 1 level 50 villain. I have no idea if they are or are not still locked) Brute or Scrapper ... Either really, I prefer the scrapper. But if you go brute, you could just go (Kat or Staff)/Fire Aura Brute and build for both general play and farming. /FA are the primary farmers. Search "Farm Fresh Builds" if you want to look into farming. Any */FA is fine, but I like Kat/FA or Staff/FA as the first/beginner build. For SO Only 100% beginner build I'd probably say Staff/FA ... defintely not for veterans, many vets may even laugh at a Staff SO only build, but they are running 1-billion influence builds and while you'll make half what they do you also only invested 3m vs their 1 billion. Once you have money to burn, then you can decide how to spend it, and if you'd rather a 1-billion influence defender or a 1-billion influence farmer. I ran a Staff/FA SO Only on live just to prove how viable it was despite what anyone else said.
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I have (the same) two keys bound to two targeting macros (primary and secondary) on every character and edit them interactively on the fly as needed.
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By all means, I'll take extra damage and a higher damage cap and a higher target cap on my defender. *evil maniacal laughter* tldr: However ..., with the exception of Kin, if you built your defender for offense the way you build your corruptor for offense, the damage difference at 50 will be minimal. Meanwhile the defender will be much easier and more flexible to build, as well as easier to armor. It's almost always easier to push defender to armor vs offense. While it's almost always easier to push corruptor to offense vs armor, and frequently the corruptor mirrors fail my armor benchmarks and push the corruptor into only one build. Meanwhile the defender may have two or even three builds that vary from full armor, to offense, to full proc offense. (NOT that builds need to have nearly as much armor as I put on them) In large part it's self-fulfilling prophecy. It's complicated, and varies depending on level and build. Most people don't even try to armor their defender. Nor do they try to build those defenders offensively. But they do build their corruptors offensively And frequently even add in some survivability to those corruptors, but not the defenders. Disclaimer: It does vary, widely, based on level and build. The following does NOT include proc builds, those are relatively new to i27, and I build armored builds, not 700+ dps proc builds. You probably shouldn't get too comfy with that 700+ dps proc build either, as procs are vastly imbalanced depending on exactly which sets you pick. Assuming 41+4x8. ASSUMING +41+4x8, given that's pretty much all I do. This can also in most cases be translated to +4x8 from somewhere in the level 39 to 41 and up range. Between level 20 and level 40 the corruptor has the advantage and it takes time for the defender to catch up. How much time depends on the build. Scourge is almost always over-estimated, usually by double, sometimes more. Outside of Kin, or other situations where the Corruptor WILL be effecitively perma-damage capped, the damage works out surprisingly even. /Kin and similar, If both are always capped, the cap itself wins, so it's corruptor by a 4:3 ratio. The caps trump all else. Hence /Kin is always best unless it's just an armor issue that's causing you to stumble. Even then, I'd still recommend /Kin at least most of the time. Over the years I've built many mirrors, and the results are very similar in each case. That's not to say they will always be similar in every build and every combination, just that I have not yet stumbled upon anything other than Kin where the difference is large enough to matter. The best example, and also a surprising one, in that the +/- were opposite of what I was expecting, was Fire/Nature and Nature/Fire. Both built to (almost) self-damage cap and heavily armored. The defender DID damage cap, while the corruptor missed the cap, but hit effectively equivalent damage levels. Percentages are based vs my Fire/Atomic Armored Blaster. Fire/Nature rated 100% st, 67% aoe Nature/Fire rated 103% st, 63% aoe The only other example I still have handy is Time/Fire, and this isn't going to be as useful as I'd like as it's been too long ago. Time/Fire (offense) rated 96% st, 83% aoe Time/Fire (standard) rated ... data lost ... But it was almost identical to the corruptor. Fire/Time (standard) rated 76% st, 59% aoe ... The offensive variant on the corruptor frame, failed my armor standards. So while this isn't helpful for dps comparison, it is a demonstration of the flexibility and ease of building of defender vs corruptor.
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-KB is just a happy accident. I may have even swapped the BotZ for Range/End in the live build.
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I'm sure I've posted this elsewhere, but I can't find it. So here is Angel Hornet's 801 ASF build. Angel Hornet - EnM/EnA - 801 ASF Scrapper 1c - this is the build I actually ran at the time. - EnM Ena ShadowMeld Scrapper - 801 - Recharge-T9 ver 1c - [i25].mxd 2J - this, or one very like it, is the current respec with a bit more psionic protection for better overall performance. - EnM Ena ShadowMeld Scrapper - 801 - Recharge-T9 ver 2J - [i25].mxd
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These are my current two brute builds. I have several other variations, but these are the two I've settled on the most. The primary difference is that EF allows for AoE Pseudo-Taunt vs DN allows for a durability of 10 vs 7. These are both standard Linea Rune/Hybrid/Rune/Demonic/KitchenSink builds. ... Kat Ena Brute - 801 G+ - T9 3L - GLM DN Tactics - [i27].mxd Kat Ena Brute - 801 D+ - T9 3L - EF Tactics - [i27].mxd
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Opinions, Ideas, Debates are always welcome. I realized it's been a while since TA was revamped and I've still not really given it a good reworking ... These are based on my standard Beta Armored Template. They are heavily biased to armor. Absolutely no warranty. I haven't built nor played any of these yet. I generally rebuild as I go, these are only first pass builds. I have no idea if any of these will even work at all. I'm mostly debating /Water or /Electric. /Water for the heal and utility. However I'm very concerned with recovery, which was why I was also strongly considering the new revamped /Elec. TA/Elec would also kill two birds with one stone, in that I've not tried the revamped /Elec yet either. Vengeance or Glue Arrow is another debate. Power order is yet another debate. Rune earlier for early status protection pre-emp is also a debate, but I'm pretty sure I won't. I'm fairly happy with the current power ordering overall, just not entirely. ... TA Water Defender - Beta 1a - [i27].mxd TA Elec Defender - Beta 1a - [i27].mxd TA DP Defender - Beta 1a - [i27].mxd
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I have over 100 time builds on a handful or more of characters on various servers, I can't remember them all, but I'll do my best ...