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Time/ - Just because it's my favorite, and you can build it like a tank. FF/ - Same as above. FF/Water, or FF/Dark is recommended, but even though those are optimal, I actually tend to play the FF/DP instead. Huntsman - It's half defender half sentinel and there are very few builds that can malfactor as well.

Yeap. Both. Illusion and Plant are both good for covering the Hostless. Illusion helps cover tanking as well, but will not substitute completely for an actual tank. However, there have been successful (if painful) Tank-less 4-star runs. A Tank is not required. Tanks are equally invaluable for providing a solid frame to stack buffs on top of, as well as being superior at taunting. However, NO TANK will be able to solo a 4-star end to end without support, even if that support is only Incarnates and 7 blasters doing massive damage. A 4-star with 1 tank and 7 blasters had been done now, it's likely coordinated destinies had a significant influence in that outcome.

@SomeGuy 1600 dps Crab - Long long ago in a galaxy far far away, crabs could run 1000+ .... now 1600. If you can, I'd like to see the new build?

4-Star everything is 1-shot fodder except the Tank. The Tank is 2-shot fodder. If even one of your pets pulls a Leroy, you are dead. This is as much a MM AI issue as a MM Player issue. Melee MMs are going to get it exponentially worse, they're going to pull aggro no matter what, and the pet is gonna one-shot die transferring that aggro to the MM. If the MM isn't heavily armored, and buffed, they're gonna one-shot die. I don't see a good answer here. My only suggestion would be to remove the pet levels shifts based on stars and then see how well bodyguard compensates when the level shifts are removed. Remove one level shift per star, so 3 is no level shifts, and 4 star the pets are +1 IF you are +1.

The Barriers? I could definitely see that. ... I'll have to dig up one of my old MMs and test this when I get a chance.

You should plan on the average 4-star PuG ITF running 3 hours and 150 deaths.

In general I do not advise trying to build offensive Proc builds for hardmode. The average proc build will squish like a grape.

Either will work. Clarion * PBU * FF can pump out 70 defense. Meanwhile Time can similar with Defense and Tohit, probably something in the 50 defense and 40 to-hit range. This covers two things you'll need for 4-star. There's a thread already on both Time/ and FF/ .... just look around. here are two quick builds I have handy. But you may or may not need to update your mids. Time DP Defender - Dahkness 4-Star ITF v4 - [i27].mxd FF Water Soul - Heavy Support 57-74 - Overwatch 1 - [i25].mxd

It's probably in the 801 tank thread: SR, SD, Inv, Stone, Rad, Bio all rate well in different ways. It's also complicated, because the list constantly varies depending on what buffs are on the team, and how much strategy you use vs Leroy Jenkins. It gets even more complicated if you're talking 4-star ITF where the defense softcap can vary from 100 to 200 defense. If you're defense armor: Cap your Defense, Resist, and DDR. If you're Resist or Heal armor: Cap your resists, Recharge, Healing, Absorb, and Active Mitigations. Assume without outside buffs your defense will be stripped, so you need to figure out how to stay alive at perma -50 defense. 4-star ITF you want to cap your Defense, Resist, Recharge, Healing, Absorb, and Active Mitigations regardless of armor type. So make friends with a defender, and try to run at least 2 copies of Ageless Radial T4 +ddr on the team.

I will not be surprised if at some point someone does a 4-star all-blaster team just for the hell of it. 8x Full Tier-4 Incarnates on Full Tier-4 IO builds coordinating and rolling the incarnate powers is an insanely powerful thing.

Here's a FF/DP designed for 801 ... you can translate that to /Dark Then I'll dig up a PBU FF, that you'll also have to translate. The third variant is an offensive build All these are old builds, but you should be able to translate and fix them up. For the Hardmode ITF You can go either Support or Armor, the STF SLE build will keep YOU very safe, while the PBU build will keep the TEAM very safe. FF DP Scorpion Def - STF SLE 1c - [i25].mxd FF Water Soul - Heavy Support 57-74 - Overwatch 1 - [i25].mxd FF Water Dark - Soul Drain - Overwatch 1 - [i25].mxd

Here is a very old, armored build. It's armored, end-game, non-proc, standard offense. Intended to be more of a tank than a blaster. You'll have to adjust it for leveling, I just do that kind of thing on the fly. swapping sets around and using catalyzed beginner sets, and temp powers or even swapping powers too. I'd say pickup Kinetic Dampeners they are cheap-ish, and the Status Protection Amps if you can afford them but amps are expensive. Rad Rad Scorpion Defender - Alpha 1 - [i25].mxd

Go for it. I solo a +4x8 ITF with all my characters (except the petless mm).

Pretend the character is a Mech, and you're the pilot. I trip over my own feet 12 out of 13 times when I'm driving an SR model Mech. On the other hand, I'm a top 1% driver of the EnA Model Mech. Some guys drive dune buggies, some guys drive Formula 1. That Formula 1 driver might must end upside down in a creek when you put him in a dune buggy in the mountains. @Pizzamurai I was driving that particular SR into 801.D (difficulty 13). It was absolutely beautiful on test #13 ... and we are not going to discuss the first 12 test runs.

SR rates 13, but is so difficult to drive at that level that you'll fail 12 out of 13 times. SD rates 12, is moderately difficult to drive at that level, but is unforgiving of errors. Inv and Granite rate 10, and are very easy to drive, and very forgivable of errors. /Ena Brute rates 9, and is moderately difficult to drive, but is unforgiving of errors.

I'd put DarkM and SS at the top of the list for +to-hit reasons. SS for Soft-Control, but that will be severely curtailed in 4-star where all mobs get at least some KB protection. DarkM and RadM for self-heal. Then combine that with and given that defense buffs are most common, that in turn puts Inv/ and Granite/, most likely with DarkM, in a really good place for 4-Star. But I'm also still very fond of my SD/ ... ASSUMING ... I get defense buffs on the team. Which does tend to happen most of the time, but NOT always. Why did I give granite a +? Because it's just so much easier to build. But that ease does indeed come with a cost as well. SD/DarkM for most teams, but requires at least minimal defense buffs, and resists buffs are also welcome. Granite/DarkM for those teams with the worst or least buffs. This is probably the random team pot luck build. Inv/DarkM or Inv/SS for for the more well rounded but also more average teams. RadA/SS for the better balanced teams. Here I can leverage the most taunting and aoe capabilities while also having the longest spike damage survival time to allow the otherwise well balanced team to compensate for any issues on the extreme high end. The best balance for the team as a whole is not necessarily the best balance for the tank as an individual. But unbreakable resists with nearly best in class absorbs and heals gives you and the team both a lot of room to compensate for issues. I think that once teams get more familiar with the content, and stop making stupid mistakes like wanting to join a 4-star run with a level 35, this will eventually translate to a fair bit of jockeying for position between Inv/SS and RadA/SS depending on the team in question. Over time the ASF has definitely been trending more toward the RadA/SS and similar builds. More team oriented, and less solo oriented. But I also expect the ITF to be less forgiving of Leroy Jenkins and his fiends than the ASF.

Hornet can solo a 3-star ITF .... but it will take ... days. In my opinion, by any practical standards, 3-star and up are not solo-able. INV/SS is a really good choice. 4-star I generally recommend: SD, Inv, Granite, and RadA. Each will have it's benefits and weaknesses. I suspect, that as a tank, I'll run most runs as SD/ with Granite/ second, But I'll be running Inv/ and RadA/ as well. ... (More accurately and off-topic, I'll probably be running most runs as Hornet set to 2 or 3 star, and not a tank. And on the 4-star runs I'll probably run Hornet or Kaede and let someone else be the Tank.) Build for durablity. Anything above 1-star, or at most 2-star, and you are not going to be able to be both durable enough and offensive enough to solo this. You are the tank, build like a tank, and act like a tank. That full offense proc build will get you squished like a grape in 4-star. If you are Resist based, cap your resists. If you are Defense based over-cap your defenses, and push resists hard as well. Push +to-hit as much as possible, as well. Starting with 3-star the average build will have to-hit issues. (SS, Dark, etc., has an advantage here.) Bring healing, regen, etc as much as possible. At some point even the smallest amount of extra regen or absorb will save your life. The Absorb Proc for instance. Bring buffers, you aren't going to solo this. ... At least not 3-star and up. And a quote from elsewhere: And another quote:

EnA isn't an armor you can compare static in mids. It's a dynamic armor, constantly changing and adapting. /EnA Brute rates in the 9.5 to 10 range for me, while Inv/ Tank rates a solid 10. *IF* you could translate that brute into a /EnA tank, it would be at least equal, and possibly higher. But we'll never know that answer until after it's translated and whatever gets changed in the translation is actually implemented. But with that in mind, EnA is both more durable (at peak_, but also more dynamic, and considerably harder to drive. Meanwhile, /Inv will peak lower, which will only be an issue in Incarnate and Hardmode Content, and will meanwhile be much easier and simpler to drive, and much more static and reliable performance. Some people will prefer /EnA, others will prefer /Inv. That which is a strength to /EnA, could be considered a weakness by some players. Meanwhile, that which is the strength of /Inv will also be considered a weakness by yet other players.

You can send unintended attachments because of indexing issues, corrupt your character, and/or email. If you only send text then it's not an issue, but when you start trying to send influence and attachments things can go wrong. Ask a Dev. It's been warned against in the past, more than once, they are not commands that were never intended for end-users. As far as I know it's not an issue with crashing the mapserver or systems, it's only your head in the noose, and people persist in doing it, but it IS your head in the noose. I still respec in bases even though that is also strongly advised against, and I even know why, but I'm willing to risk it because it's quiet and convenient for me, and it is again, only MY head in that noose.

With the new hard mode content coming: Incarnate: Assumes +1, but no other unlocks required. Tier 1 Incarnate Arcs: These are the existing arcs. They are designed for 50+0 and 50+1, and once you reach 50+3 and Tier 4 Incarnates tend to be considerably easy. Tier 4 Incarnate Arcs (Team): These are the new incoming arcs. Assume a full team of +1s. Tier 4 Incarnate Arcs (Solo): Assumes all incarnates unlocked and slotted with Tier 4 powers in them. Hornet slaughtered these mercilessly, but I've also been told they are so difficult as to be completely unplayable. Hornet is a Tier 4 monster, by comparison at 50+0 these arcs are likely very difficult. 1-Star Hardmode: Assumes +1 and all incarnates unlocked and at least Tier 1 powers in them. 2-Star Hardmode: At least Tier 2 powers in all slots. 3-Star Hardmode: At least Tier 3 powers in all slots. 4-Star Hardmode: Tier 4 powers in all slots.

I was just looking for fresh numbers myself.

These commands are dangerous and should be avoided. Using these commands can and will lead to problems and has done so in the past. The only safe version is: /toggle compose.

Hostless: There is a graphic that plays at death of the Host, ... Host is the guy carrying the nictus that later becomes the Hostless. There is a text banner, that plays at death of the Host, ... but is grey and hard to see unless you are solo or in a team. There is a delay and then a graphic that plays before spawning of the Hostless. ... this is your Third and Final Warning. Distance and delay before hold, ... Jump back when you see any of the above graphics Distance and delay before hold, ... If above does not work sufficiently, jump back anytime you kill a Boss or EB, and use that distance and perspective to check for the graphics Kill the Hostless, if you're solo your SOL at this point, do NOT engage them. If you avoided them, do NOT go back into range, just in case. (I have not actually experimented with going back into range after avoiding them, but I suspect it's not a good idea. Cage them or Phase them. If They are in a different phase at expiration, the possession will fail. The phase MUST be active at the (deaht) time of possession, not before or after. If you cage them and the cage expires before possession is complete, then the target still dies. Phase the target. Same as above. Illusion Control to Distract them. The single best team tactic. /bind tab "targetenemynear$$targetcustomnext enemy alive hostless" ... or something similar

There is a bug in absorbs ... if you cast the absorb before it expires or is ablated, it can reduce the efficacy of the second casting. This can cause your absorb and hp numbers to ping-pong. No details, may or may not apply to your case.

Assuming 4-Star Tactics and Strategy - Leroy Jenkins eight 50+0 SO built blasters will probably end very badly. Tier 4 Incarnates - No you don't have to, but you'll probably regret it if you don't. A Tank - No you don't have to, but it sure does make it easier. An 801.6 capable tank is even better. Support - If you have enough support to keep your tank alive, then you likely have enough support to keep the rest of you alive too. If you don't have a tank, you better double up that support. Both +defense and +resist support - It's highly advisable that you HARD-cap both resists and defense. Ex: PBU+Vengeance is your friend. Illusion Control - is one of the most effective ways to neuter the Hostless. -regen - /Rad /Traps etc, is one of the most effective ways to neuter the GM fights. Keep in mind you need something close to perma -1000 regen, so while -100 regen is helpful, if that's all you have it's not gonna cut it. You will need 1000+ raw dps without -regen.