[Patch Notes for March 29th, 2022]

1 hour ago, SwitchFade said:

Am I prophetic or what?

This is actually really impressive 😄

 

Go buy a lottery ticket lol

[Indomitable Needs Your Help]

42 minutes ago, macskull said:

A lot of this is perception. Population is definitely lower than it was over the winter but it isn't that much lower. This thread has been at least part of the reason I'm starting to track player numbers though, especially since we haven't had a statistics update in over two years. I just need a good way to automate the data collection and publish it so I'm not having to manually check and input data every week.

Are the player totals files that are posted on discord PowerPoint, pdf, or screenshots? If it's text based, it would be easier for sure. 

[PvP Broken? Let us count the ways..]

Indom native since HC launch here! I don't mind the low population most of the times I play. If I want to PvP I can always log in a second account

 😆

[Immortal badge]

3 hours ago, Glowman said:

How do you rest in fire? Nothing I'm doing is working.

Hover/Fly/Use a temporary jetpack power and move above the aforementioned fire patch then click rest. After about 3 seconds, it will root you to the ground on the fire patch.

[Mapserver Madness! (Four-One 2022 Invasion Event)]

On a Friday night, on Indomitable, there aren't enough players in one zone to spawn an invasion..

...at least as far as those willing to show themselves in the search

 

GOT IT TO SPAWN! 😄

 

Also, amazing custom enemies!!!!

[Real Life Aggro]

Man this thread is hella depressing, but also insightful. Next time someone goes afk I'll think twice about it!

[Mapserver Madness! (Four-One 2022 Invasion Event)]

[Upgrades to Peregrine Island]

6 hours ago, Zepp said:

Cimerora?

Shadow Shard?

[Do away with enhancemnet conversion dropdown menu]

9 hours ago, Greycat said:

Far too overpowered. Game breaking. Obviously you want an i win button. And think of the dev time!

 

😉

 

(In seriousness? Asked for before. YES, PLEASE, DO THIS!)

Right, also 'you just want people to play the game your way'

[Why was the Living Dark Exploration Marker removed from the Abandoned Sewer Network?]

37 minutes ago, superratz said:

Still can't find badge and it shouldn't not have been move in the first place.

Click the link AboveTheChemist pasted in the message above your message. It shows an in game picture of the badge location and its in game coordinates in the Abandoned Sewer Network.

[Auto-hit Powers]

It's a toggle?

[Indomitable Needs Your Help]

7 hours ago, kelika2 said:

Just have names tied to @Handles, and give players the option to toggle off the @name displayed over characters heads.

I ran like 6 posis last night and I cannot recall any of my teammates names, i highly doubt im going to give a damn if two or more Purple Nurples are running around

Go the extra mile and use @Handles for chat purposes

What about my unique gold title I earned from a Homecoming contest? 

[Indomitable Needs Your Help]

1 hour ago, Vanden said:

The only thing I can think of that will save Torch and Indom is The Talks finally reaching an agreement, Homecoming being allowed to advertise, and doing something to entice new players to roll on Indom or Torch. The double XP they gave out on Excel and Everlasting when they first spun up worked too well.

No new updates on "the talks" since last year (per my signature thread):

 

https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/31053-a-history-of-the-talks-a-consolidation-of-the-hc-team-legal-discussion/

[Indomitable Needs Your Help]

Everyone's alluded to the causes of this issue, and frankly it's not an Indom only problem as @Apparition mentioned. What hasn't been said is that the volunteers and staff who run this community are also slowly departing. Jimmy hasn't been on in a long time, less and less content is being created because there are less volunteer devs to create it (and less players to test it). While I was hopeful that after the 2019 population boom, the player count would stabilize, I see it hasn't even stagnated - there are even less people posting and viewing the forums these days. 

 

Sorry for the 'Doom and Gloom' folks 😄 

[Giant enemy hit boxes are screwy.]

I always thought it was because I couldn't zoom out enough. Interesting!

[Tentacle... comix?]

 

[Strength of Will]

S/L is the most common enemy damage type. I'm happy with the power, because of the extra S/L resistance I don't need to dip in to the Fighting Pool for Tough.

[CoH Back?]

1 hour ago, Captain Blaze said:

So like many I used to play CoH but then the idiots in charge shut it down, now I hear of rogue servers where you can still play CoH, is that true? How or where would I start?

Yes it is *and has been* back on a number of independent and volunteer ran servers. The forum for one of those servers, (that you are on right now) is the Homecoming server, who opened its doors back in April of 2019. Homecoming has made a number of updates from the last publicly available OuroDev fork of Issue 24 and its currently in its Issue 27, Page 3 iteration. 

[Homecoming Statistics: March 2020]

1 hour ago, laudwic said:

Out of curiosity, and its been two years, is is possible to get an update?  If we can't do player base size/active size, can we get an update on the AT breakdown?

 

Thanks for all you guys do.

While not exactly what you are looking for, there is real time data for player counts on the Server Status tab for this forum. I would go so far as to say that if a player wanted to know the average player count per server (and what faction they belong to) they could record that data for a day, week, or month and post it for others to view.

[PvP is Dead?]

6 hours ago, PennyRoyal said:

Any one from The Renegades still on? Used to roll with them back in live. Just started playing again a couple weeks ago. Not PvP yet. I still have base game training wheels on. Forgot so much!

Welcome back! I don't know of the group you mentioned, but if you're just now returning, I'd recommend checking out all of the stickied topics in the arena sub forum. Lots of stuff has changed since the game went dark, but Homecoming has done a lot of QoL work to improve the PvP side of things. Still, no where near the population of the live servers it takes a bit of patience or a dedicated group to do any PvP these days. 

[What would happen in PVE builds could be used in PVP?]

22 hours ago, The_Warpact said:

Ok so bear with me because that was along time ago and now my noggin is full of life safety and Healthcare stuff.

But, was it like that? I remember my rad/rad corr being a holy terror in SC but not how.

Oh yeah, I had a Level 30 Sonic/Rad Corruptor that was loads of fun to play in Siren's Call back then, it was even slotted with just Level 30 IOs. There was enough leeway in builds at that level to allow for pretty much any play style to work.

 

Just a few things, not exhaustive by any means, but...

 

- PvP IOs didn't exist in Issue 13. The Chance for Teleport Protection for example has made Teleport Target (enemy), coupled with the built in invulnerable delay on the TP'd target makes /Traps powerset styles moot. There's a lot more going on behind what I just said, but I'm writing lazy.

- Telekinesis doesn't force control the enemy player away (assuming they didn't have a tray full of breakfrees).

- Damage... well actually damage spiking has always been the biggest value added in solo and team play in PvP, so no change there really

- Elusivity 

- +5 IOs

- PvP recipes used to only drop from defeating enemy players

 

But Homecoming has done a bunch of positive things for PvP

- /Arena command works anywhere to set up matches

- Movement suppression is turned off in PvP zones and in arena matches by default

- Added the higher level barriers so that while Siren's Call is capped at 30, players can use powers from up to Level 34. See also Recluse's Victory having access to Incarnate Alpha slot only

- PvP fakkolades (Fake Accolades) which can be purchased from vendors in PvP zones and the arena

- Removed all but a few temporary powers in PvP zones to prevent some bad actors taking advantage of certain powers. Certain temporary powers are still accessible and many can be purchased from the same vendor as above. 

- Fixed many exploitable geometry holes throughout PvP zones, of course many still remain and have been submitted in the Geometry Error thread to be addressed. 

- Added new PvP arena maps!

 

I'll just say lastly that the Homecoming team has been very open to suggestions from the PvP community, going so far as to allow testing of power changes on the beta shard and rolling them back if they intended effects didn't meet expected outcomes. That, along with other ideas to promote interest in PvP (community reps, organized events, potential alternative PvP game modes, etc.) has given me a lot of confidence in the all volunteer team. The crux of the problem isn't that the mechanics are messed up, or that powers are over tuned, or that some damage spikes from a single player can kill any non Tank ATs in less than a second - it's that our community is pretty small and it's mostly made up of returning players who either enjoy PvP or don't - and you can't PvP by yourself (okay okay unless you dual boxes for those badges 😉).

[PvP Broken? Let us count the ways..]

There isn't one single cause for the state of PvP in this game, there are many. The root of the cause was the direction that the development team went with powers prior to Issue 13, then the changes they made afterward that created a lower ceiling for player skill (possibly in order to increase the population that participated in this game play mechanic).

 

I think it is important to look backwards to inform future decision making, but the fact is the state of play is where it is at now because of many contributing factors. I don't see any more valid or key than others. Bottom line, in PvP, damage output is king and all other capabilities are second in line to that.

[What would happen in PVE builds could be used in PVP?]

Pre-Issue 13 PvP you say?

[PvP Broken? Let us count the ways..]

Just now, The_Warpact said:

You are not looking at the root of the issue...its the players.

When you get people who have anxiety, rage quit, fearful, etc when faced with actually coming up against another person in a gaming event you will get the exact opposite effect.

 

PVP has its issues game wise, but, the root is the people. I find it rather humorous that superheroes and supervillains fight, as long as it's not another person. 

 

I don't think it's a rant unless I missed something, I prefer to think of it as a question on why or what your opinion is the problem that has such a low population of pvp when mostly every game out there its centric to the game both console and pc.

Fair enough. I saw the other PvP thread that Troo created in the General Discussion sub forum and figured it was a continuation of either a rant or a suggestion. 

[PvP Broken? Let us count the ways..]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this just a rant thread? 🤔 

 

If not, there is a bug thread on these forums if you believe something is not working correctly. You can also put a support ticket together. And it should go without saying, but there is a Feedback and Suggestion sub forum as well.