Haijinx

None of the Redside Ats were originally intended to play with the Blueside ATs So it wasn't even a consideration how similar (or not) ATs were to each other.

Less HP, true, but also less threat. Its noticeable on teams, aggro parts like the red sea. Of course on all stalker team this doesn't help. But on a normal team it does. Stalkers really aren't designed to keep aggro. Neither are Scrappers from what Capt PH says but still, Its true if you want *some* aggro, playing Stalker is not your thing. Energy melee isn't really a New set.

Shiver is no slouch either

Open AVG Click on the "MENU" portion in the top right Click the "Settings" / Gear Icon (two down) Leave it on General 4 choices down there is the choice "Exceptions" click that There is a Green button "Add Exception" click that Then put the address in

For AVG I just added Forums.homecomingservers.com as an exception and it works fine now.

AVG started doing this for me today.

Is it really that bad now?

Once you get ET anyway. EM is a little bit of a late bloomer.

Energy Blast/Energy Manipulation Blaster

Yep. I had a friend 25 years ago that only ever dated jerks. She would complain and complain. Relationship after relationship. Only jerks. She of course had no involvement in this happening at all. Ah well.

Most recent I can think of was a suggestion to buff the scrapper ATOs Or add a crit on demand or something. They wanted moar crits.

Can just start a new account. *Shrug*

And on Brute forums. And on Tanker forums ... Some players are like drug addicts. Feed their Power Creep Addiction and they want Moar and Moar.

LOL, you got me! I wasn't expecting you to sneak this into this thread, but you did. All sneaky Stalker like. Assassin's Blow style! Noice!

And if anything, under-rated on Stalkers. It is extremely survivable. Great when exemplaring. And the "loss" for the stalker version is simply replacing the buff/debuff Recharge speed aura with a nice set 20% recharge boost, and a Stun aura. And as a bonus if you pick the Energy Glow effect for the powerset, it will nicely silhouette your character when you are "Hidden" reducing eye strain when trying to see your invisible character.

OR ... Fire! Nothing says sneaky like being literally ON FIRE

Correct. Years later. That's why the boundaries between the Melee types are so fuzzy. The Stalker was the redside scrapper analogue they were never designed to share the stage.

This was something that the Netflix Marvel series did well.

If you call ST focus "boss killers" stalkers are the best, that's where the extra build ups and crit on demand come in. If you mean EB, AV, GMs progressively not so much. Of course some of that is due to sets. You can't do TW or WM on a stalker for instance.

I agree stalkers are roughly on par with scrappers as long as you don't pick underperforming powersets. Expecting stalkers to outdamage scrappers by a noticable amount is probably unrealistic. The two ATs are very close together on DPS/Surv That whole ST specialist stuff people toss around is just wishful thinking. If you redesigned COX today you wouldn't have both ATs. You'd just have the /nin powerset for scrappers and possibly add some hide crits to sets like EA and DA

It helps to remember Stalkers and Brutes were not designed to team with scrappers and Tankers originally. Thus all the overlap

You can slot the ATOs starting at level 7 or something like that. No point waiting until 50. And while it may be annoying that so much AT performance is tied up in ATOs, that was the decision made. If you buff them so the ATOs aren't as important, do you then Nerf the ATOs?

ATOs are the best available. They have a GLOBAL Proc ATO that gives free buildups. They have a Proc ATO that puts them back into Hide, allowing them to 100% crit Both sets have good bonuses and a nice fat recharge buff And these both work together. --------- Armor sets almost as good as Scrapper, but with much lower threat. While some sets are less good, many are just as good as the scrapper variant. And Stalkers get the same base values as scrappers and brutes, not reduced ones like Sents -------- Progressively building crits, crit increase based on team size, etc. Though TBH these are just icing on the cake. -------- All the newer primaries have the same AOE potential as scrapper sets. ==== So really unless you pick an Older primary with poor AOE, and one of the secondaries that aren't as sturdy, your Stalker is going to play like a Scrapper with more reliable crits and lots and lots of extra buildups.

Stalkers are probably OP right now to be honest. Any improvements like these would have to be accompanied with survivability reductions. Or you know whatever. Peeps love power creep.

I mean sure, its really no big deal if people could have 5 or 6 pools. But not everyone needs freaking leadership ... J/S