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I need to respec my regen brute to finetune it, but my experience was always positive. Most regen critics conflate “clicky” with “bad” to a misleading extent.

Guys I don’t care how accurate this 20-sided die analogy is, comparing video games and tabletop games sounds dumb as hell. Also, nerds. Also I agree that some things will never be fixed. Challenge settings are nice but the regular content will probably remain a joke for eternity. For example, I do not think “x8” will ever come close to meaning “8 players recommended or risk (even the slightest) consequence”.

If this ever were to be a thing, the PvP versions of the zones should not be the versions made into “echos”. I don’t even PvP anymore and I still see that as a bit too blatant a middle finger to them.

I would prefer we circle back to here AFTER doing these sorts of things to... almost every other zone. It’s actually fun to street sweep Moth Cemetary, so I don’t see the logic in crowding the one zone that is already well-used and a ton of fun. Liven up something that *needs it*.

I just want to say I had to look up Staff Fighting on my phone to remember Mercurial Blow, and was on the brink of asking you (sarcastically) to share with the class how you got Moonbeam and Water Spout on one character 🙂

Damn guys. I got scared off of pylon testing reading pages like this one because I can’t seem to break the 1:40 barrier on ANYTHING.

Name me one other game where conventional wisdom is that having maxed out characters and finding the game challenging are regarded as mutually exclusive. You're misrepresenting me and you’re misrepresenting how video games work. Well, a little later on in the post you’re just flat out lying, but I’ll ignore those parts. EDIT: I altered the quoted post so it actually reflects things I have ever said I don’t want to do. Most of the bullet points were just blatant lies if you are attributing those positions to me, so deleted them for clarity.

Yes, that is the case. I, for one, find it unreasonable to suggest people should never reply to others within a thread without drawing everything towards some grand conclusion about the original post, so I do not post that way. If I take issue with a post or have something to contribute related to a post... I post. The GM’s are free to clean up threads as they see fit, but I don’t see “hey I have something to say to a post right here in this thread but I’d better muzzle myself because no discussion is better than slightly off-topic discussion” as a very useful approach to discourse.

I am allowed to respond to posts in the thread that aren’t the original post. Notice you and I are able to quote each other and not just the OP. Obviously I am not concerned about the context of the OP because I am replying to points raised by others and not the OP. You keep trying to bring the OP in where I regard it is irrelevant because that’s not who I’m replying to and I don’t care. Call me off-topic all you want. My posts are relevant to ideas brought up in the thread even if not by the OP, so maybe don’t bring up those ideas if you don’t want them talked about?

And I like it that way dammit. If I have to gut my character of all the things that make it fun to build etc... well I’m just not going to do that ever because it’s a ludicrous suggestion. Again... and I’ve said this surely a hundred times on this forum in the pasr year... playing maxed out characters and having engaging and challenging content are not mutually exclusive things. Any post that pretends they are must immediately be regarded as illogical. Btw you say “and yea, sure, a bunch of procs” like it’s a relatively small piece of the puzzle. But considering I don’t have Fire Ball or Psi Tornado or anything, I would have nearly zero DPS on that character without damage procs (and yes Judgement). Considering Jack is dead half the time at that difficulty, the only thing I have left is literally Block of Ice / Frostbite base damage. So yeah, basically nothing without procs.

Are we anywhere close to a universe where CoX is like this.... I’m sorry for attacking you, but you keep minimizing all of our real experiences with the game and it’s annoying as hell. “Uh, no, you can solo +4x8 even with an Ice controller, I’m doing it right now.” - “LoL i BeT eVeRy MiSsIoN tAkEs A mOnTh LoL”.

Except that’s a ridiculous proposition because there’s no point to a video game if you have to gut away all the fun content to make it more engaging. I cannot think of a single other game I have played where maxed out characters and challenging content are, with a few exceptions, regarded by the players as mutually exclusive features that can’t coexist. That’s because that’s not how games work.

You can do everything I can do in this game. I don’t have some special dashboard of cheat codes at my disposal. Again, we’re not really using logic here are we.

I would probably still do slow afk farming with damage auras because getting anything done while afk is better than nothing 🙂 But I’d probably switch to my Bio/Rad tank for the maximal passive damage combo. It really does sound like the solution to their afk farming problem though. I for one don’t need use auto-fire for attacks in any other scenario.

Oh not this crap again. Grow up and use your brain. People are allowed to want challenges on maxed out characters, not just gutted ones. You can disagree but it only means you don’t know how video games work. No game is intentionally designed with “well if they wanted a challenge they would obviously opt out of every feature in the game” as its approach. People need to stop repeating that tremendously stupid idea.

You keep using hyperbole to describe the speeds of slower characters, and it only shows that you can’t fathom what a properly built one looks like. Most likely explanation is you’re probably bad.

Played around a little on my ice/time troller in a +4x8 farm because of this thread.. not the best example because time is OP butttt at least it does force you to take the controller epic with power boost that contributes crap to your offense. And yes ice control is “sub-optimal” too. Anyway, I am killing at an acceptable rate for me as long as I pull bosses together once their minions are dead. I have 23 damage procs and 2 -res procs on whatever this build is supposed to be, but I think I could do better if I wanted to build it more for soloing. Now on to some time with my grav/sonic, which I already know melts mobs with its build.

That won’t happen if you have a good solo build.

This. Obviously completion rates will vary wildly, but under this definition every combo can solo once a *solo-friendly build* is completed at level 50. And yes, I have an Ice Controller. And a Force Field Defender. And some Masterminds.

I have a proc abuse FA/RM+Enflame tank I made strictly to see how much I could close the gap between tank and brute by leveraging proc abuse. 6 procs in IG, 6 in Burn, 4 in Enflame. Completion times might tell a more nuanced story, but I really can’t tell that I’m slower than a Brute in a meaningful way. I do notice Burn’s long recharge when it’s bloated with procs (I have 6, but I’d recommend swapping one for a dam/rech or something - I’m sure a min/max guy like you already knows that though) instead of Armageddons, but things sure are winding up dead one way or another.

I don’t take death seriously most of the time. Even if I’m dead in the thick of a huge battle, it is usually adequate to execute a quick Awaken + Break Free + Catch a Breath + Turn on Super Speed and Zip Around a Corner maneuver if you have teammates around to cover you. And if I’m dead I was probably ignoring my inspirations, so it’s rare to be unable to do that. Debt has been reduced to the slightest tickle. There just isn’t any real consequence for death unless perhaps you’re solo and actually have to use the hospital button once in a blue moon. And quietly saying “For Frodo” right before you charge recklessly towards certain death is fun enough to mitigate whatever semblance of consequence is left over.

Every powerset combo in the game can solo +4x8 with caveats (IO/Incarnate up, AV’s not guaranteed to be included in package, absolute worst combos ever may struggle with a number of enemy groups). So this here is kind of just plain incorrect.

We’ve all been on that point in the learning curve before. Give it time you’ll get better.

You should have a constant reminder of the Gull situation in the form of your travel power pop up tray. Unless you’re the kind of psychopath that actually wants to keep his pop up tray on, in which case... get thee back from me, Satan.

Note that Irradiated Ground currently has a broken proc rate. So while 6-proccing that power yields the best AoE melee set in the game, it may not stay that way forever as the devs have acknowledged it is a broken power right now.