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Dark Miasma/Water Blast: Defender or Corruptor?
StriderIV replied to StriderIV's topic in Archetypes
I didn’t even take the ATO’s into consideration. Huge call out, thank you. -
Dark Miasma/Water Blast: Defender or Corruptor?
StriderIV replied to StriderIV's topic in Archetypes
Looking at some numbers, it seems that the extra debuff improvement that Defenders get, PLUS how proc friendly Water Blast is, makes it seem like the Defender might actually push ahead in damage on this combo. -
Hi Heroes (and Villains :P)! I'm creating a concept character, someone who can control darkness/shadows. I know standard would be Dark/Dark, but I've really fallen in love with Water Blasts animations. Plus, when you recolor it to black/darker colors, it really looks like you are bending shadows! Anyways, Dark Miasma seems like an extremely solid set overall and pretty much anything will pair well with it. My question is: would you recommend this combo on a Defender or Corruptor? My thoughts so far: Defender: The debuffs on Dark Miasma will be stronger on them due to the higher defender modifiers. Also, Water Blast seems pretty proc friendly (correct me if I'm wrong), so that could help make up the damage differential between the 2 sets. Corruptor: Historically, I've felt/heard that "Rain" sets tend to perform better on Corruptors due to how they interact with Scourge. I could see Tar Patch + Whirlpool having awesome synergy on a Corruptor when pair with Scourge. Overall though, I'd love to hear the thoughts from the community on what archetype they feel the combo of Water Blast/Dark Miasma would shine better on!
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+1 to this suggestion. I started building one out after some of @Bopper’s posts a while back. I run mine as a hybrid set up that truly feels like a “scraptroller”. You can solo well, and at the same time be a benefit to any team. Mind Link OP.
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I appreciate the slotting advice Tex! As I'm preplanning a bit, that definitely seems where some of the headache can arise with speccing out the character haha
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I'm finding it being pretty "melee" as I level up! I was thinking of playing it more as a "hover" style, but some of the skills seem to really lend themselves to melee.
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Ice seems like it would be a great fit for a Defender. Trying to think thematically what would work. Thermal seems like a cool “Fire/Ice” deal. I didn’t know that Thermal also has -regen in it, which can help with AV’s. Seems to have quite a few tools in it’s kit.
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Great advice, ty. That was kind of my problem, Dark/Dark seems like a real Swiss Army Knife of a hero. I appreciate the power suggestions!!!
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Hi all! Recently rolled a Dark/Dark Dom. Only lv 17 at the moment, but I’m loving the play style. My only issue is… I love ALL the powers, at least from the descriptions. I’d love some guidance on: - Must have powers - Any tips or tricks with this powerset combo - Slotting advice. If you have a sample build of a Dark/Dark Dom you’d like to share, I’d love to see it! I’m thinking of ultimately running Dark/Dark/Soul, but open to suggestions.
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Hey Volk, anyway you could copy and paste this build out in the thread? Mids isn’t jiving for me. Would love to have a base for my new Dark/Dark Dom!
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Well Dark/Dark could definitely fit thematically =P do any of those sets have a -Regen component for AV’s?
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This is great man, thanks! Dark/Water seems pretty sweet, maybe color the water to look like shadows. I’m thinking either Dark/Water or Dark/Ice. Dark has a way to keep baddies down in whirlpool/rain, which is nice.
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Good to know! Trick Arrow seems great, just would need to find a concept. I know you’re a Dom expert! Any Dark Dom suggestions?
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*IMMEDIATELY ROLES A MERC MASTERMIND* 😂😂😂 just playing my friend! It is hard for me to express how much I enjoyed this post, thank you! Very helpful.
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Great call outs! Good to know about Water, for some reason I thought it’s T9 was a PBAOE. Also good call out on Storm. I have heard a lot of players say storm shines on a Defender. I could see a nice synergy with /Ice being able to keep mobs pinned down/slowed while Storm powers do their business. For a Dark Defender, are there any secondaries that stick out to you as pairing well? I’m looking to run a “Dark” themed hero, toying with either a Dark Defender, or maybe Dark Dominator/Controller. I know you have a bit of experience across multiple archetypes, so I’d love to hear your thoughts!
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You bring up a great point Doom. I’ll admit, I was mostly focused on the T9’s, but that makes a lot of sense in regards to Elec blast. For example, my other Defender is a Time/Rad, which REALLY relies on it’s PBAEO’s, so just looking to switch it up. Both Dark/Ice and Storm/Ice are great thematically. Do you fell that both function best on a Defender? I feel like Dark/Ice might with all the debuffs. Storm/Ice feels like it might work well on a Corruptor, due to Scourge and Dots in the kit. I could be completely wrong though.
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Hi all! I’ve never really played a “hover” hero, one that can just fly in and out of the battle, helping his teammates and dropping some baddies. I was curious: what Defender primaries/secondaries do you feel really lend themselves to a hover hero? I have one Defender, a Time/Rad and it is very in your face. Some combos I thought could work from range: Elec/Elec Dark/Ice or Elec Storm/Elec or Ice
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+1 to this Gulb! Although now you have me wanting to level one of every Defender primary 😂 currently working on a Time/Rad.
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I’m a huge fan of /EnA and /Shield on scrappers. How do you feel about /Rad? Looking at the Pylon/Trapdoor thread, it seems some people are using it VERY effectively on a scrapper. I always shied away from it on a Scrap since it is a resist set.
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Prepare for the worst, hope for the best lol
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Is there anyway your EM/Rad Scrapper could clear as fast as your Rad/SS Tanker? Because that thing is unreal. You went God mode in that run 😂
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Yeah, I’ve been seeing a lot of love for Rad lately. I want to give my first one a run. Torn between going a Rad/SS Tanker or EM/Rad Scrapper.
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I agree with this! My DM/Shield is great. I have to be honest, I have to remove my bias against resist sets on scrappers. I tend to only run Shield/Bio/EnA, but /Rad Armor is looking pretty nice. Probably because of all the other tools it brings in addition to being a pure resist set.
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Hi Micro! From what I gather from the other posts is, due to the procs Rad Armor can take, it pretty much ALMOST matches /bio in damage, while being substantially sturdier. It seems that most people like defense type based sets on scrappers, but /Rad seems to still be able to shine due to the tools in it’s tool belt. The extra +dmg Scrappers get from Meltdown (with no crash) is pretty nice as well.
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Would love to see this build when you finalize it!