Bill Z Bubba

My guess? Old beliefs not quite bound to reality. Some don't think SR has a taunt aura, for example. SR is amazing.

Nice to see some SR love in the tank realm. My SR/Fire/Pyre tank is 50 with several incarnate powers slotted but I haven't looked at him in a bit. The tank's normally anemic damage output isn't that bad after being backed by musculature, degen and assault. And he does not die. Ever. Woot for SR!

Degen does seem to be the go to for max damage output. Along with Hybrid Assault Core if base dam modifier is 1 or higher or Hybrid Assault Radial if < 1. So Radial for brutes. That leaves Musculature for Alpha. If any of these are incorrect, please explain why so that I can go fix my builds... again.

I did. End usage on sw is just too high to be sustainable. And I prefer the KB -> KD proc in there instead.

And I'm not sure how moonbeam would play with claws, even with no redraw selected.

Hybrid assault toggled on. Here's the current build. I'm 20% short on recharge, which blows. For a seamless fu, focus, slash chain, you gotta have 186% global and permahasten. EDIT: The recharges in hasten are at 50+5. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.2 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! HK-666: Level 50 Magic Scrapper Primary Power Set: Claws Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Swipe -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A) Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), UnbGrd-Max HP%(17), GldArm-3defTpProc(48) Level 2: Slash -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Rchg(15), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Hct-Dam%(42), AchHee-ResDeb%(42) Level 4: Inexhaustible -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(5), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Prv-Heal/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(42), Prv-Absorb%(43) Level 6: Spin -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Arm-Acc/Rchg(7), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Arm-Dam%(25), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(43) Level 8: Environmental Modification -- ShlWal-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(9), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(13), Rct-ResDam%(17) Level 10: Follow Up -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(25) Level 12: Adaptation Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15) Level 16: Ablative Carapace -- NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(A), Mrc-Heal/Rchg(40) Level 18: Focus -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Apc-Acc/Rchg(19), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Apc-Dam%(37), GldJvl-Dam%(43) Level 20: Evolving Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39) Level 22: Kick -- Empty(A) Level 24: Tough -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(34), ImpSki-Status(36) Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(31), LucoftheG-Def(34), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(36) Level 28: DNA Siphon -- Obl-Acc/Rchg(A), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Obl-%Dam(46) Level 30: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A) Level 32: Shockwave -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(46) Level 35: Genetic Contamination -- FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg(A), FuroftheG-Dam/Rech(36), FuroftheG-Dam/End/Rech(37), FuroftheG-Acc/End/Rech(46), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(48), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(48) Level 38: Parasitic Aura -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(39), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(50), Pnc-Heal(50), Pnc-Heal/+End(50) Level 41: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 44: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 49: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal(33), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(34) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(27), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(27), PrfShf-End%(37) Level 12: Defensive Adaptation Level 12: Efficient Adaptation Level 12: Offensive Adaptation Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment ------------

Got the claws/bio T3ed and made a few changes. Getting there. 1:47 for 486 dps.

I think you ARE breaking the game! Ok, time for me to see what I can do with that claws/bio if I build for a single purpose. Awesome stuff, yall.

So 65 sec average? That's still 718 dps. My best claws/bio time so far is 390 dps.

@jshmoe1236123 Are those times in minutes? Cuz that's freaking outstanding. Average 39 seconds for a pylon? That would put your DPS at 1111. Is this even possible?

I only played on Pinnacle. And the forums. I spent a LOT of time on the forums.

Remade my em/fa brute into a dm/inv brute. I am already beginning to suspect that this is a very potent combination. Sure, aoe is lacking, but I'll be buffing that a bit with dark obliteration. I've no doubt that it would be just as groovy for a scrapper.

Oh yea, I nuked him. Saved his costume first, though. I've never been a fan of keeping things around that I don't use. In games or RL. And considering I can PL a new one to 50 in 3.5 hours of doing something I like doing anyway, it's no biggee.

Storage bins are ready to go on the rebuild. Took two quickie respecs to pull and store everything. Much better than the ... what ... 10 we had to do in the past? Oddly enough, I seem to recall scrapping Louis during live as well. I know at one point he was dark melee but I can't remember what secondary he had. For the time being, I've remade him as a dark\invul brute. We'll see if possible EM changes can take him back to his former glory. It's not like gettin to 50 is a rough ride these days. @BloodofcaineI absolutely get where you're coming from but in the mythology I built for my devils and their Hell, Lucifer was most assuredly a front line general in the war against Heaven. Thanks yall.

Ran it at +1/x8 w/ bosses and AVs so they'd be even-con with BZB - Scrapper. Finished with 9:05 left on the clock, zero faceplants. Nice map and mission. Also, HI, EVA D!

I fully IOed out my old main villain, Louis Cypher. One Energy Melee/Fiery Aura Brute. He sucks. He sucks bad. I mean... black holes suck in everything but Hawking radiation and they still don't suck as bad as this EM/FA brute. Does anyone else remember the glory that was energy transfer before the great nerfing? I railed against the change then, and now I remember why I just stopped playing this guy. This isn't a post seeking build help. There is no help for energy melee at this point beyond developer changes to the set. Having your best DPA attacks lock you into what feels like 10 second animations is a non-starter. I'm really only asking the brute community... what powersets should Satan have? Should he even be a brute?

I missed this sentence on first read. I'm a bit OCD (shocking, I know) so I've always cleared everything. But it prompted me to go for a better average. Started the time at first zone in and stopped it at last clicky. A little under 27 minutes for a new average of 1.9 M inf/min. After selling everything, that jumped to 2.23 M inf/min. I'm cool with this. I like that my belief in Claws' AoE capabilities is based in fact. Total side note to @brigg Your work on the costumes in these AE arcs is absolutely amazing.

Groovy. Will post new numbers tonight. 1st run 1.89 mil inf/min 2nd run 2.02 mil inf/min 3rd run 1.89 mil inf/min Again, groovy. Thank you much for this knowledge. Attack chain is Followup, Spin, Shockwave, Followup, Burn, Fireball with Ionic and Melt Armor thrown in when available. Other incarnate powers are Musc Core, Degen Core and Assault Radial. Claws/FA/Pyre Just for giggles, I took my main Claws/SR scrapper into the same map. Took about 2 minutes longer to clear it using FU, Spin, Shockwave, repeat with Pyronic thrown in on occasion.

Oops. I had both set on No XP. Did that actually reduce my earned inf when running on your hard capped lvl 49 map?

Claws/Fire/Pyre Brute. 1.532 mil inf/min

I don't like the way he spells "monkey" Think you both misspelled Bill Z Bubba. Claws/SR is still glorious. Damage is better on the scrapper, mitigation is better on the brute. As it should be.

Crap. Just caught myself reading forum posts while at work.... just like the old days. I really should hunt down my old forum icon.

We get a 1000 slots. Build both! I've got 3 Bill Z Bubbas at 50 and fully kitted out now. (I've got 5 but the tank and stalker aren't built.) The scrapper's damage output is considerably higher than the brute's thanks to the scrapper AT IO procs, but the brute can take a lot more incoming damage/attacks and has taunt. I seriously love them both and bounce between them on a whim.

The shorter equation is just a reworked version of the one you have from the original thread. The difference is probably a rounding thing in the shorter equation. Using 165 seconds as Time for both: ((30677.15+(102.26*165))/165)/(1-0.20)) = 360.22765 ( 38343.75/165 )+127.8125 = 360.19886 Yea, something is amiss. ((30677.15+(102.26*Time))/Time)/(1-0.20)) = X (30677.15+(102.26*Time))/Time = .8X 30677.15+(102.26*Time) = .8X*Time 30677.15/Time+102.26 = .8X 38346.4375/Time + 127.825 = X As I like a good mystery, grabbed the Power Anaylzer temp power and took a look at the pylons. Base HP verified at 30677.15 Regen verified at 102.26 HP/sec Damage resistance verified 20% to all. That's funny. Looks like the old reworked one was wrong at least from the post I copied it from. Perhaps it was corrected later on in the thread. Granted, not by much, but accuracy rules! Using new reworked equation of 38346.4375/165 + 127.825 = 360.22765 which matches original equation.

( 38343.75 / time ) + 127.8125 = is the equation that should be used where time is in seconds. So 1 min 25 sec run is 85 seconds. Total becomes 578.92 or rounding 579. I just got a 2:45 run on my claws/bio using followup, focus, eviscerate and the +heal/-regen power from bio. 360 DPS. Not great compared to what so many others have done. And Auroxis beat me to it.