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Take a look at the screenshot from 2019, If AE XP was halved back then wouldn't that mean that double XP pre Page 4 was not really double XP but less than that? Now post Page 4 is what double up triple down? so either way that is less than what the actual double XP rate should be given the 50% cut in 2019 right?

I thought the Instant Army Arc took place from mission 7 up and the Antimatter Collision Arc was 1-6. This is where I got turned around. Are both in Oro just under the instant Army?

Is the Antimatter Collision Arc in Oro and I just missed it? I know the instant Army is, but that isn't the beginnings of the Praetorian War. I am trying to put together a playable timeline of the war in its entirety and oof 2 hrs seemed too long to me. I though I was going crazy and remembered something that didn't actually happen by them shortening the Arc, I thought I remembered it being more like 30-40 min. I just ran the old school one in Oro - wondering what I did wrong. lol

Does anyone think the Praetorian War Arc is a bit too long? Or is the length appropriate for the story? Let me clarify by starting this isn't based in complaint, but just wondering if it's duration might be so long to lose engagement in the story. I am basing this on it taking just shy of 2 hours to solo the arc tonight set to -2/1 no bosses no AVs. What say ye?

Guilty. Hahaha

You are unforgettable Snarky. I mean that with all kindness.

Just look on the bright side stalkers can also skip hide. You know someone will. lol

Good luck with that one. I asked that question in the brute coffin thread and got an education on painting oil canvas and statements of being undead and dodging the hunters. Hehe

Kudos. You win the day 🤣

Again sorry for more delays, but I am having trouble getting mids to play nice. It could be user error - but I am attempting to avoid rebuilding each build from scratch. I will update as soon as I figure the issue out - unless it's me. I haven't figured that issue out in all 43 years. 😀

Has a 1 : 1 comparison been done between tanker and brute in that thread? I looked - couldn't find one.

Directly - no... but lamenting the days gone by when they could - calling the change from the days when Brutes did out damage scrappers and some blasters even - a "tragedy" and lament - then yes that is asking for it. And no, it shouldn't be allowed to be at that level of power.

Please go back and reread what I wrote. Specifically that part.

Haha for real - at this point it's like - oh look there's another. Sigh

That technically does not prove the tanker out damages the brute - rather that it has better tools to complete that mission faster. I would like to see that build on a pylon vs the brute equivalent for a pure damage output analysis. That may have been done - personally I haven't read through the trapdoor thread because IMO it allows cherry picked results (not purposefully cherry picked) for builds that will do well in that ONE situation vs others that it may not do as well. What I mean is there won't be much that runs from a tanker - neither for the brute - but by design doesn't draw aggro as well as a tanker - a scrapper or stalker will out damage them both, but there will be runners and other factors. All will likely survive but that mission honestly favors tankers over the rest of the melee classes. For a more controlled mission type test - I suggest @Galaxy Brain brutal mission simulator in AE - IMO gives a more accurate result of damage output in a contained mission environment.

I will update everything this weekend, just haven't had any free me time lately. Sorry for the delay.

I need to update all of them - which Mids is most current? As far as the build either would work, the brute will do more damage but tanker has a slight edge on survivability. You could always roll both. 😀

Should be fairly easy - could you post the build export breakdown? - I am not where I can open mids but could figure it out by looking at the breakdown I think.

Here is another look at it also - that accounts better for the added toxic/psi last issue. This is with Invincibility tagging 1 in range. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Infinitum: Level 50 Science Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Super Strength Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Temp Invulnerability (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (7) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (27) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (31) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 1: Jab (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (13) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (29) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (34) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 2: Dull Pain (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (3) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (5) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance Level 4: Fly (A) Hypersonic - Flying Level 6: Haymaker (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (42) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 8: Unyielding (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (9) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (11) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (11) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (46) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 10: Combat Jumping (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 12: Resist Energies (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (29) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (40) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 14: Resist Elements (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (33) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (42) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 16: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (17) Recharge Reduction IO Level 18: Invincibility (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (19) Shield Wall - Defense (19) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (25) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (48) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge Level 20: Knockout Blow (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage (21) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance (21) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge (23) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (23) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (27) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 22: Boxing (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage Level 24: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 26: Resist Physical Damage (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (43) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 28: Rage (A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge Level 30: Weave (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge (31) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge (36) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (42) Gift of the Ancients - Defense (45) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Increased Run Speed Level 32: Tough Hide (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance (34) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge (34) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge (43) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (45) Gift of the Ancients - Defense (45) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Increased Run Speed Level 35: Conserve Power (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 38: Foot Stomp (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (39) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (40) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (40) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 41: Physical Perfection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 44: Focused Accuracy (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 47: Punch (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (48) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime (48) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (50) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (50) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (50) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb Level 49: Hover (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl

Try this - you could probably do 2 of these for 1.2 bil if you are patient. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Infinitum: Level 50 Science Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Super Strength Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Temp Invulnerability (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (7) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (27) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (43) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 1: Jab (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (13) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (29) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (34) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 2: Dull Pain (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (3) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (5) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance Level 4: Fly (A) Hypersonic - Flying Level 6: Haymaker (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (42) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 8: Unyielding (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (9) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (11) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (11) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (46) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 10: Combat Jumping (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 12: Resist Energies (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (29) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (40) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 14: Resist Elements (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (33) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (42) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 16: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (17) Recharge Reduction IO Level 18: Invincibility (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (19) Shield Wall - Defense (19) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (25) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (48) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge Level 20: Knockout Blow (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage (21) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance (21) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge (23) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (23) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (27) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 22: Boxing (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (42) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 24: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (34) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (34) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 26: Resist Physical Damage (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (43) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (45) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 28: Rage (A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge Level 30: Weave (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (31) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (36) Shield Wall - Defense (45) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 32: Tough Hide (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 35: Conserve Power (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 38: Foot Stomp (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (39) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (40) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (40) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 41: Physical Perfection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 44: Focused Accuracy (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 47: Punch (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (48) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime (48) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (50) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (50) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (50) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb Level 49: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl

Depends on how much you like jello.

Well a good suggestion - if you could find a way to build for 45% fire defense and retain the capped fire res... You would exponentially increase your survival.

Elec Armor is awesome because you can do this. If you build accordingly that hole shinks well enough to mitigate - so long as you don't take groups with it for granted. You could build higher than that chart also but have to start trading off other areas - and IMO 50 has proven to be enough. Plus you have an awesome heal in Energize that boosts Regen significantly which is up often. Most importantly I haven't found anything yet that will severely end drain either tanker or brute Elec armor. Jello mr sapper - nice gun you have there...(Antonio Banderas voice) BOOM. Sapper is not in his happy place.

You could do Willpower for a touch of Regen that gets stronger with every foe faced and decent resists. That's for changing it up since you have a lot of invul. But either one would work.

Are you sure they don't have 45% fire defense? Because even 90% res is not usually enough to withstand any fire farm at +4/8.