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I'm not sure what this is referring to.

quickly approaching 700 replies. is it possible we've passed peak outrage? Okay, only 700 replies may have been a 'bit' early to call the peak..

Well, Nemesis was fun. What's next?

Alting = I completely agree. We might as well have 10,000 character slots, I can really only utilize 5 or 6 pages of them. Beyond that it is a heap of broken or forgotten toys. Minor benefits: Reducing the piles discarded alts More character names available Not needing to start over Shifting the focus from low level power leveling Could softens the blow of nerfs really, I was hoping for a link to an earlier discussion rather than folks needing to rehash it..

It won't take that much to get started. I'll add a budget option and a more mature build here in just a bit. [edit] The The Low Budget Introduction to Fire Farming is good at showing how to get started at lower levels. When you don't want to use the purple inspirations we can move to something that gets fire def to 45% and fire resist to 90%. I like Stone and Rad over Spines but here you go: Example of a lower cost build | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1517;673;1346;HEX;| |78DA7D944B4F135114C7EFB4532AA52FDEE5D1428BB4489F03AC350AD6C414D388B| |A3375942B1DAD94748A80AE5CB830BA72E36770E3CEB71FC068A27E061FB8F2B134| |318AA7F7FCC1C6499CB4F9DD7BEE79FDCF6D677173C1FFE0D88D4342EB9AAF99B65| |D39D2586F4AEF09B3B9DE306B829E50A9BE313E5FB79BE3E5AAD9B8627AC9D6A3BC| |2A8BB226656E69CD5A9576844D0BF2A25CB565AE68C9C656E5302511BE72BD5E232| |F2997036A59B456AA4D6B75C5AF762569528295D0EE665936ECAAB5D67F74CDBA90| |439DF5CAA269372963848AE7E9FB3229F0ECD0871EF1B0B5D1944517055A18BA70C| |D80B34C7D0E34988F5A2188D1AE0A65EBD8003799FBAE81D7998F096EC4B84F721E| |DF69A67F093CC50C9E61BEA26E3DDCADC7833A41D409A34E18F97B50AFC77629266| |8DE5EAEA779D37CD6073E2174A2974E68EE83B601681D98712B4606691FA55950BE| |2E4CAE4B4D6E802C015408C43873047CDAFA01F0992B840AC398EA30A6FA86D475A| |38B6EA81B85BA51A88B6D8150F78CD02B3AD4447AABAC346631C72F8197C11A338E| |89B8A9DF7EF4D48F9EE2501DDFBD69F21984CFA08F6D134130C07C4B7D0FE156867| |E72EE891DE6FE5FE06F50F0148D9BBC7F4E5123881D81E6243427A13909AD29DC6C| |0A39BAA9B7286E20FA43A85B7947BD8C21DFD87BF64B7D601EF8087E02B799D39F9| |92F282A817C09FC322A7434C936D7E4AD9603F9DF06EF30CF91CF146A4EA1660635| |33A89941CD2C6A6651D324A4119B466C16B179C4E6119B47AC81D85ED29F43BFB93| |8F7FB9AF417602BDCE7198FEAFFFEC7A71D9682C362382CB30ECB9CC352D4F7DE1E| |3B25C76959C721593465E90C8BD66D2AFF2FBEBDB7084EBFFDB568DA715AA4E81D7| |190FF7F5F1DDEDFDBBDEFB176E32EB3EC535DA83A67DBD666DBFA7CDBFAFFCF1FAC| |281C27| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| note: maneuvers is just for a knock back protection or other unique (not to run as a toggle)

@darkwing, take the extra step of converting to a different rare.

watch out mailboxes

while not quite as good as it may look in the character builder it is a nice melee filler.

interesting..

like a dog with a bone.

Someone might suggest buying recipes and crafting what you need as a less expensive way to go.

If we could change a powerset, how should that work and what should the cost be? I would guess it could be done through a Respec. The cost could be dropping 10 levels or to level 40 which ever is greater, 1 billion, or a specific challenge. There may be a similar topics I was unable to find through search.

soft cap vs hard cap? soft cap being the effective cap.

does an Illusion/ count as ranged?

MaKe It haPPen AlrEadY!.. right after fixing energy transfer.

For ranged sets, this is the one Goldilocks would pick. Curruptors are the swiss army knife. Can blast, Can control, Can support. Never left out. "let me be a blaster that doesn't like the taste of dirt!" Scourge is amazing. /dark /kin /time oh my guns, bows & arrows, lasers, elementals, mental, energy blast..

While I love a Rad/Dark corruptor, recent changes maybe not helpful here. So I'd suggest a Dark/Ice/Dark or a Dark/Sonic/Dark Defender. (sure I could have said stalker, but that's too easy) Will you be one or two shottin bosses, no. Can you comfortably wipe out waves of minions as you wade into battle surrounded by trembling enemies, yes. Fearsome Stare, Dark Servant and Invoke Panic (pool power) would be fear on steroids. Procs can add some damage to the non damaging powers. Petrifying Stare can double stack on a target and be proc'ed into a damage dealer. That's a lot of damage mitigation +Darkest Night 30% -tohit Tar Patch, Howling Twilight.. yum. Blizzard or Dreadful Wail, take your pick. Both can be leveraged for some heavy damage with power sets having some really nice synergies. Soul drain from dark gives a better top end damage boost. (multi-build up nuke potential)

One could be Stealth or Invis, those can mule as well. Grant Cover costs less endurance and provides a bigger benefit to teammates. There are no wrong answers, just trade offs.

I'd try and get more out of Deflection, maybe ditch Grant Cover, and swap Maneuvers with something more useful if you're just using it as a LOTG mule.

Total Focus animation for assassin strike. (With hammer or stone fists) {no jump for fast animation)

for a tanker buddy, ice/fire for a brute buddy, fire/fire

How could a kin/emp or FF/kin exist without a balance issues? I'm open to hearing more, but with all the power creep requests that fly around. I'm cautious and even if it is a cool idea, I'll try and point out why it might be challenging to make work.

This is great and what I wish we would see more of. It is a excellent starting point someone could then make adjustments to. I'm gonna take it a play around a little with the slotting. It is hard to not right away think, "oh I'll swap one of the pool defenses for the two 3% uniques and free up some slots and a power." I get that that was what you are trying to avoid and it is impressive what you were able to put together without high cost items.

I can see how some folks would be interested in playing a support only character. It would be a balance nightmare. Either this new combo would be terribly weak or break the game.

It's been like a week and a half.. Prices go up around holiday time when more folks are playing (similar to the current situation). The truth maybe somewhere in between, time will tell.