Auroxis

For regular mobs I'd agree, not for AV's/EB's though.

With the -res debuffs and procs the difference isn't as much. Kin doesn't have -res and while Brute has a higher damage cap it already uses a lot of it for Fury and has less base damage.

Sure, but the tanker is also contributing more -res to a team which can make up for it in AV fights.

Bio/TW Tanker can certainly deal Scrapper levels of damage if you compare it to non-TW/Bio Scrappers. While it's significantly less DPS than its TW/Bio Scrapper counterpart (about 50% of an equivalent scrapper and 75% of an equivalent brute), it's far sturdier while contributing more utility to a team via the ability to tank more reliably and having better -res debuffs. I'm not saying Bio/TW should be the benchmark for balancing tankers, but that while tankers are behind there are currently ways to work around the issue through powerset selection and character builds. Also that the contribution of -res is a bit underrated, though understandably so thanks to bruising not being stack-able at all.

What are you even trying to say here?

I think making it stackable from the same source is a bit much, but I would definitely like making it stackable from multiple casters. As for giving more powers like grant cover, I think it would be a bit tricky to alter all the powersets like that. An easier implementation is one I suggested before, an inherent team (but not self) auto aura that buffs the damage of nearby allies.

Well if that's a kludge then so is repeatedly convincing Statesman or Lord Recluse to only attack you instead of the squishy blaster that's giving them a hard time. It doesn't have to be completely realistic, it has to be plausible.

Obviously you'd have to pass a wisdom saving throw first. Insults in D&D are actually a thing.

Well the aptitude of the tanker is taunting, and good taunts bruise egos after all.

I said that it makes Empathy great, not just viable/useful.

Fortitude increases damage by 31.25% (can be active on up to 7 teammates at once), and Adrenalin Boost lets your nukers go off more often. Plus there's always Sonic Attack to cover up that -res/-regen hole. If you're talking about something like Emp/Psy then yeah, if a team is fully kitted out you won't be bringing much of value outside of insurance. But Emp/Sonic is a different story.

Maybe it's like when a boxer only uses jabs to taunt his opponent, it bruises their ego and opens them up.

Sonic Resonance isn't a very active buffer, you only use your buffs once every two minutes. Empathy and Time would be better choices for a Bard concept. Empathy's RA's and Time's Farsight+Chrono Shift are like bard songs.

One power I'd like examined that hasn't received much attention is Arctic Breath from Leviathan Mastery, as it has a base 88% proc rate for 3.5PPM, can fit two -res procs and 4 regular damage procs on top of having -res built in. It has a low enough cooldown to be usable almost every 10 seconds, which would fit perfectly with the duration of the -res debuffs and fits comfortably into a rotation, potentially adding a -55% resistance debuff to it (-50% on average). I think on sets that can't fit an achilles' proc like Super Strength and Stone Melee this has potential if you manage to build the recharge up high enough. Here's a first draft, recharge might be enough between ageless and cross punch to run: Stone Fist > Arctic Breath > Seismic Smash > Heavy Mallet > Cross Punch > Stone Fist > Seismic Smash > Heavy Mallet Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.1 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Bio Armor Secondary Power Set: Stone Melee

The recharge is already in a reasonable realm with set bonuses/hasten/ff proc. No need to enhance it and neuter its greatest strength. Sure, but PPM mechanics have been a thing for a while and players are already utilizing it. You can buff Repulsion Bomb without messing up people's builds.

You do not have a monopoly over what makes thematic sense. For me, a tanker is more about being a team player and helping your allies rather than having wider AoE's or a higher damage cap. And the fact that the original devs chose Bruising as a way to buff tankers shows that they at least somewhat shared the same sentiment.

Then buffs should be centered around that aspect of the tanker instead of trying to make it resemble its main competition.

Bruising is definitely a hook, it changes how the class plays in terms of target prioritization and rotations.

Also, the sweet spot for Repulsion Bomb (on Defender) would be a 40s recharge time and a 1.67s (1.848 arcanatime) cast time. That would guarantee a 90% chance to proc without any recharge enhancements/alpha. Then you could also double the damage to "compensate" for the longer recharge and address its low damage, or give it -def so it can fit more procs.

It would lower the proc chance from 72% to 41% (on Defender), and make it less consistent. The end result would be about the same DPS if you use it when it's up, but less reliability. To explain my reasoning: Bomb can fit 3 damage procs, a -res proc and an FF proc. Let's also say the power's damage is increased by 100% with buffs and a damage IO. And on a high recharge build, 30s is reduced down to around 7.5s while 16s is reduced to around 4s. Add the 3.3s cast time and you have: For 30s recharge: 36.15 * 2 + 71.75 * 3 * 0.72 = 227.28 damage, more reliable 7.5 + 3.3s = 10.8 227.28 / 10.8 = 21.04 AoE DPS For 16s: 36.15 * 2 + 71.75 * 3 * 0.41 =160.55 damage, less reliable 4 + 3.3 = 7.3 160.55 / 7.3 = 21.99 AoE DPS

Two Fire/Time corruptors gel extremely well together from the start, with 2x Time's Juncture and 2x Rain of Fire+Fireballs absolutely trivializng the majority of content. At the end-game you have constant nukes going on thanks to 2x Chrono Shifts, overcapped defenses with 2x Farsight, and capped resists+cc protection with a high uptime Rune of Protection (thanks to the 2x Chrono Shifts). The only problem I see is endurance before Chrono Shift, but 2x Victory Rush takes care of that nicely while leveling.

Achilles' Heel doesn't proc any differently, you just need to avoid placing procs into fast recharging powers like Glinting Eye and Gleaming Bolt if you want to make the most out of them. Radiant Strike and Gleaming Blast are good candidates for Achilles' Heel.

The 30s recharge is what enables it to be a proc machine. If there's anything that shouldn't be touched in Repulsion Bomb, it's the recharge.

The damage is unchanged, at 22% ToHit you deal the same damage as before.