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Here is a comparison I worked on tonight. Given what you folks have told me. There is NO comparison. Invul / Dark Tank, Money no object...versus Dark / Invul Brute...Money no object. The Tank is unkillable. Maybe if you dropped a few buildings, simultaneously on it. Tim,e it right though or it will hit Dull Pain and you are in for a long fight. The Brute is TOUGH. But a lot of places where it can be harmed. The Tank can now be incarnated for PURE Damage. Because it is unkillable. The Brute can settle for very very good survivability and get damage. Or use Incarnate powers to get the survivability the Tank already has. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Brute Mage: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(45) Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5) Level 4: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(5), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(7) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(13), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Rchg(15), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(21) Level 8: Siphon Life -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42) Level 10: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctArm-ResDam(13) Level 12: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 16: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(31) Level 20: Resist Energies -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(46), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(48) Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48) Level 24: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(37) Level 28: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(29), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), ShlWal-Def(31), Rct-ResDam%(42) Level 30: Arcane Bolt -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Apc-Dam%(50) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg(33), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Hct-Dam%(34) Level 35: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(36), ShlWal-Def(36), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(36) Level 38: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(39), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(39), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(39) Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42) Level 44: Superior Conditioning -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 47: Physical Perfection -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A) Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1344;637;1274;HEX;| |78DA6593CB4F135118C5EFB45390D202E5514068A1C5BE281DA871E133265A20284| |D4848DC36B55E6B63D392B618BB74E15EC1E8C607F8D8FA27F8F6AF31880A4677F5| |EB9C1324A1E9F4D7EFDCF3DD39F7DE99ECDD8CE7EDE2BD8BCAE8BE5CCED7EBB94BB| |5F5867665F3C552C1A99472DBF5A4D4BA534ABF5DE6B2BAACB595C9D76EE36F0072| |46DFD495BAB6962A77D6CB155DCB5F2F954B8DA6F2AE54AB656BA154BCD528558A1| |EBB5AADD60ABAD674A358D3FA06F4659D5F13D3E8FC5AA960CDCB24C5662E9BAF37| |C48B6C23126342AE6F7229A3FDD372A92DC99A36D5F436F9927C05CEBC26DF80EFF| |EF73AD5BE68315375FCC6D8B13FE45FF07DDB4AAFB10FCD41AF835E93DE0FE26AEF| |9A781DCEAC81B155B02308CF8E8CBA98DB75DA616B9E3360CF59F21CD87F1E1CBC0| |0EE4A5727E6373B1F98B6167B486E909B60E211F851DC5DCCDF1534ECB5BA27C810| |E809830E99BC1B5ED57D1FF7748AE665BF97EB9FE1FA535C7F8AEBFF24AE5E7A7BE| |9EDA3B78FDE7E7A7F8ACB676F6CCBE57B8AAC83CFC091E7E0F117E41618DC063F4B| |D700EEE31848207BEA24E69D1D963A20FB2EB987E031871630E65F2497C0912BEC1| |9C2196D46941AC6FEAAE1318CFD926A9439473DCCE105433DE0895EB28FF4815FA4| |6B0CBDE618338C33C33833049921B1076E4886007307667006B329306D9173641AD| |C6BBF137CA626A2D02663649C4C80A16932097E95AE30CF2CCC8C53CC38C56C5357| |C1C7922D82FD7146789ED153641A7B184D8261D9FF38E635E2498535925D3EA5927| |CCE924FF80E886651B3AE610EBFCC31476D8E67346E2A7E5AF2958F5A300FDEE6D6| |F291D1159383A218B6B2E33E78A3A9EC1E564258CFF723AE1F8715A6FE07A97FCC9| |0| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Tank Mage: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), Ags-Psi/Status(3), GldArm-3defTpProc(3) Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(21), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21) Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25) Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A) Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(33) Level 20: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(36) Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(36) Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39) Level 28: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 32: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Rchg(46), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Hct-Dam%(48) Level 41: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(50), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50) Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), 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Whatever one i am currently on...

Okay, I re-worked this onto a Invulnerable / Dark Melee. I do believe it is tougher than the Invul / SS and I would hazard meaner as well. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Tank Mage: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), Ags-Psi/Status(3), GldArm-3defTpProc(3) Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(21), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21) Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25) Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A) Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(33) Level 20: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(36) Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(36) Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39) Level 28: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 32: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Rchg(46), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Hct-Dam%(48) Level 41: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(50), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50) Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), 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okay, i just realized i quoted you from the general discussion before realizing this was your thread. now that is funny. also seems you already have seen many of these answers...

I seriously hope these ideas are going someplace beside the dust bin lol A "generic" very large robot head. / armored head. Think the robot from Disney's Black Hole. Or simlar to The Juggernauts bullet helmet. Just a very large blob with minimal adornments. Maybe a round one and a cone one for some variety. And if really feeling like being special a few different visor and voicebox possibilities. Because, sometimes, more is just more. Also, if you upscale a regular large helmet (at all) the clipping really is noticeable. This way you can just plunk the thing down like "The Tank" brain in a jar and walk on any clipping.

Is there a simple explanation (lets say at 50 to make the comparison easy, I know Brutes Fury at low levels is very helpful) of the damage comparison of a Tank and A Brute? Brutes used to be definitely better. Heck, for a while on live Brutes were out damaging Scrappers. *shakes fist at nerf gods in the sky. But after the "Great Tanker Un-Nerfing" (tm) I am given to understand the damage is very similar. Is this true. There are so many reasons I did not post this in either the Tanker or Brute forums. Thanks for the feedback. Double Thanks for numbers!

Here is my SS/Willpower from a year ago. I don't currently have this build active. Shattered for parts. I do have a SS/Invul Brute and a Dark/Invul Brute, and a Dark/Dark main actually lol. I also have an Energy/Invul I am going to 50 sometime soon and complete, probably to leave up if it runs as good as I hope. Oh, and my Dark/Fire Farmer. Which is literally GOLD in farming, but a true pain in TFs. (just not enough enemies to keep him fed well lol) This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Snarky: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Super Strength Secondary Power Set: Willpower Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Punch -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(7) Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(11), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(11) Level 2: Haymaker -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(17) Level 4: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23) Level 6: Fast Healing -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(23), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(25), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(25), NmnCnv-Heal(27) Level 8: Knockout Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(29), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(31) Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 12: Kick -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(31), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(31), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), TchofDth-Dam%(33) Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(34), UnbGrd-Max HP%(34) Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- DmpSpr-ToHitDeb(A), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/Rchg(36), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(36), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(36), Prv-Heal(37), Prv-Absorb%(37) Level 18: Rage -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(37), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(39), AdjTrg-Rchg(40) Level 20: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40) Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def(42) Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43) Level 26: Combat Jumping -- Ksm-Def/EndRdx(A), Ksm-Def/Rchg(43), Ksm-ToHit+(43) Level 28: Heightened Senses -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(45), ShlWal-Def(45), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45) Level 30: Maneuvers -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/Rchg(40), Rct-Def/EndRdx(46), Rct-ResDam%(46) Level 32: Foot Stomp -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(48) Level 35: Superior Conditioning -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(50) Level 38: Strength of Will -- Ags-Psi/Status(A) Level 41: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(50) Level 44: Resurgence -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 49: Tactics -- RctRtc-Pcptn(A), RctRtc-ToHit(50) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrc-Rcvry+(19) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(19) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1445;678;1356;HEX;| |78DA6594594F13511886CFB453B1D0D296026515CB22C852C1E5DA445922D204AD4| |BE2D634702C8D4D69A625CAA5FFC0355E28B2E9AD51E39F71D73B6F008D1AC5C48C| |5FE77D05639B4C9F9EF75BCF37E7347E6DD8F764ECFA6165541DCDA60A85E4116BA| |EA83DF1543A33E5564AED48E452D695F90AF9D9E49892719DD53A9698CB6B2B9928| |5A3A972ECE44601AD69775AEA0636733D96C7EF6AAB6947F7276361B1BCDA4678A9| |95CBAD25925F25A4FFB9C9F133A95173DF07731ADADC24C26DF3892CF4CC54672DA| |4ACF27E3A942515BF368AC41FAE892A7DD90AFD2A36C8F5A9246874CE55A2657407| |3957C04EE780CBE54FFC47EA3ED3BB8F307F913ACDC4F4624A0D5541D0283B186CF| |746C3E3F590D5607C820180C81AF24CA8D58B79B756B59B79675EB59F7B57879E06| |B7A4E18B09D041B12E429B0E934D82528BDA7524CC50DD46CBA09B6DC26EF80BBEE| |826FC4DB8B3ACA5B873C2E4952853C9EAA73826EF13F4F5E00775F242F9149D02DB| |17EEED1CF3D46B9C728F718DD04DF8A57C019A6ED093C7529552BF37DE6726C1DCF| |B97E01767E424CE71AD82D612185D8D043C4742E827B96C8657205EC5E05DF49541| |83D1AE17BB4DD024DE9BF8EFDD78DA2D6DE31F218390EB68B6F047332227DCAD17A| |C97AB135228FAB71533967A7F717F91B7C2F6866AD66D6EA67AD7ED6E83F0E86245| |F2B7D5BD739832FE0C006F995FD895F1BCF41DB03BCE7810570DF22B9442E83DE10| |EF94ECA59D3319E24C3E96EE1CCF48D7219C119FF8F7D0BFE73FFF0FA2F6A1BEEAE| |33C6AA4FF1873C4A2D0C2A20D32C7E082C48625C77D70D4DCBAA3768BA9F8B14B4B| |DB5613DB5639BEA83A695212CD70BCD62AB7EE2A95F53265635B711951CC2F78067| |BAC19379C33FD79DBC730B8D71AEEB5B7ACB7C13265A84C3950A61C2C53BC41F9B7| |8062FF013C81E942| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

It seriously depends on your powersets and build goals. We could start with some "generic good idea" like S/L def at 45% and a list of common Globals and procs that almost every good build tries to shoehorn on. There is actually a thread like that in general discussion right now. But lets get down to brass tacks.... When you build a Brute you do not build "a brute." You build a "Dark/Fire Farm Brute". or a "SS/Invul TF Monster" THose two will have EXTREMELY different needs and therefore, while maybe even sharing some same enhancement sets, might have those sets for different reasons even. Take my "SS/Invul Brute" and "Dark/Invul Brute" Both for Task Forces. Completely different. The SS has enough Recharge to keep Rage up 100% time. Not hard. The Dark has as much Recharge as I could cram on without seriously affecting other build goals. Because the Synergy of Dark Melee and Invulnerability just gets stronger the more Recharge you cram onto it. In my opinion, so thats how I built it. SS/WP will need enough recharge to keep Rage up 100%. After that it might benefit from more, but I would look at pumping other things based on your desires. Definitely throw on all the normal procs and globals. Here is an excerpt from the general discussion by Mashugana: How does this look for a general guide: Start with this and then see where the endurance, recharge, defense, and damage holes might be: Try to softcap S/L at 45% If ranged then try to softcap Ranged Defense at 45% Try to softcap Melee Defense at 45% If you have a lot of toggles then get +Recovery high Get Global Recharge low for long attacks to come up more often (look to IO set bonuses) Useful procs for all characters: Panacea Proc Miracle Proc Numina Proc Perf Shift Proc Perf Shift End Power Transfer End Power Transfer Health Glad Armor +3% Def Steadfast +3% Def Shield Wall +5% Reactive Def Scale Damage Resist 5 LotG if possible Did I miss any of your favorites like Blessing of Zepher or Karma? I also use the Kismet +6% Acc global whenever I can fit it in. Although with Rage that is not as important. but from this generic list you get 1 and 5 and the list of goodies and the rest does not fit well. So much for generic advice lol. I would look at ANY resists you can easily cram on. I love a Willpower Brute but those Alphas can be Brutal. And last, and I HATE to say this, but I think it is true. On a modern 50 Invul is just head and shoulders above Willpower (and I ran Willpower for over a year on live) Because of Incarnates and all the build techniques the Endurance difference is moot. The Healing is not needed as much, and that leaves Armor which Invulnerable does better. I do not want to tell someone just climbed up to 50 they might have chosen a different armor to get to the brass ring, but....it's kind of who I am. So I said it. Opinions do vary. Its just mine....and a few really good builders think that way too. I am a mediocre builder at best. But i do love Smashing things! Best of luck.

Here is my Dark/Fire Farmer. I LOVe Dark. I use it with both Invul and Dark armor on Brutes and Tanks. It was an easy choice for Farming. This is a quirky beast. All My Incarnate Powers are MORE DAMAGE So.....Where does my Endurance come from? It doesnt. It just goes away. Pretty darned quick too! Seriously though,, as I am sue you know both Fire and Dark have an Endurance Recovery PBAoE. This is a high recharge build. So....Just keep pumping up the blue balloon with holes in the bottom and everything will be fine! This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! dark fire brute M1A1: Level 50 Mutation Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Smite -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(3), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(3), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), TchofDth-Dam%(7) Level 1: Fire Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(11) Level 2: Blazing Aura -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(15) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(19) Level 6: Healing Flames -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A) Level 8: Siphon Life -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(21), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(21), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), TchofDth-Dam%(25) Level 10: Temperature Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A) Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-ResDam%(27), Ksm-ToHit+(27) Level 14: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 16: Plasma Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(29), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(31), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Obl-%Dam(33) Level 20: Consume -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(34), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Obl-%Dam(36) Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36) Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Soul Drain -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(39), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Obl-%Dam(40) Level 28: Burn -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(43) Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(45), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(45) Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45) Level 38: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 41: Gloom -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(46), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Dam%(48) Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Bmbdmt-Dam(A), Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(46), Bmbdmt-Dam/Rech(46), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech(50), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(50), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(50) Level 47: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 49: Rise of 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here are Calystix powers. i could not easily find a writeup on the guardians he summons. nost Coralax are s/l (water) and a bit of psi here and there. i am guessing the psi powers are wrecking the bots: Calystix the Shaper Calystix the Shaper Main Article: Calystix the Shaper Calystix the Shaper is the high priest of an ancient cult to the sea-goddess Merulina. He has formed a 'Cult of the Shaper' on Sharkhead Isle in order to free an ancient terror which is trapped beneath the island. Powers PsychicBlast Subdue.png Subdue Ranged, Psionic, Foe Immobilize Subdue deals moderate damage and may leave the targeted foe Immobilized for a brief time. Immobilized foes can not move but can still attack. PsychicBlast PsychicScream.png Psychic Scream (Ranged) Cone, Psionic, Foe -Recharge The howl of Psionic energy resonates in the mind of all foes within its conical area of effect. PsychicBlast TelekineticBlast.png Telekinetic Blast Ranged, Moderate Damage, (Smash/Psionic), Foe Knockback You can use Telekinesis to Blast a targeted foe with the power of your mind. This attack deals Smashing and Psionic damage, and can knock your opponent back. Damage: Moderate. Recharge: Moderate PsychicBlast WillDomination.png Will Domination Ranged, Psionic, Foe Sleep This powerful attack is so painful, it usually renders its target inconscious. The victim is asleep, but will awaken if disturbed. PsychicBlast ScrambleThoughts.png Scramble Thoughts (Ranged, Psionic) Foe Disorient Painfully scrambles the synapses of a targeted foe, leaving him dramatically Disoriented for a short duration. Deals a little Psionic Damage. Damage: Minor, Recharge: Slow. Power Missing.png No Melee attacks Calystix doesen´t have any Melee attacks at all Paramilitary DraftArmy.png Summon Coral Guardians Summon Summons Coral Guardians to fight for you. Empathy Resurrect.png Summon Healing Wave Resurrect Healing Wave revives all nearby dead players as well as completely restoring the Health and Endurance of all players.

is it the type of damage he is doing that is leveling your bots? do the "team resist" inspirations armor up your bots?

We're not supposed to talk about this.

I've done that arc many times on various Brutes. Never had an issue. I mean, he is an AV. No pushover. I do not know MMs. Is there a way you can put them in bodyguard mode and summon some temp helpers from P2W, then start slinging envenomed daggers at him or something?

An Invulnerability Brute using SOs is insanely Tanky. One properly i/o'd is (in my opinion) Tankier than most Tanks.

For comparison here is a build I use. Its rowdy fun! This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Snarky: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Super Strength Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Punch -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(3), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(3), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(5), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(5), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(7) Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(7), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(9), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(11), GldArm-3defTpProc(11) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15) Level 4: Haymaker -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(19), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(23) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(23) Level 8: Knockout Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(27), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(29) Level 10: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 12: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33) Level 16: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 18: Rage -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34) Level 20: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(36), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(36), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36) Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37), Rct-ResDam%(39) Level 24: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(39), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 26: Hurl -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), 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And this is why I get "pigeon holed" into only wanting to build certain builds / sets. Because for certain AT/Build/Sets ALL the things just line up. Once you have experienced it you seek it out again, but...oooooh. It is rare. But when you find a build where every set just adds at every bonus you start to slaver and drool, and gibber on the floor.... um. I mean, it is good. You like that.

THis morning I missed the attached build! I just re read it. THis is the exact thing I was trying to create. Thanks Hyperstrike! Thats two of my 9 filled out builds I keep that are your design. Now i need to go shopping and respec!

If you looked closely you may see some familiarity. The build is yours Hyperstrike. Except you posted it on a request I made for a Brute. And I still have the thing unaltered. But I then just sort of reverse crammed it onto the Tank. Which is why things are a bit hinky. So then I tried to solve it....enough said.

My Farmer is like this. There is a built in solution. Which is why I bring it up. Every powerset and combination of powersets changes your build options and goals. My Farmer is a Dark/Fire Brute built for Damage and Recharge. This leaves it woefully short on Endurance. But both Dark and Fire have PBAoE Endurance recovery powers. And the build is high recharge. You just gotta keep pumping the thing up like a bagpipe!

Okay this gets a little iffy for me. I am running a Super Strength Tank, In Footstomp. (.67 KB = knockdown) I crammed a full set of Superior Avalanche, which includes a "chance for Knockdown" which i assume means another .67. Long story short, sometimes the enemies squirt everywhere.

Okay I swear the government is monitoring me. And evidently some programmer is concerned I'm going to shove a tower up their backside until a thousand dollars pops out of their face like a ATM. Because I just did the exact same steps a second time. And it installed. ...

I argued with it until it saved the file, then hit run, run anyways. Says i do not have permission. And i am the only user / admin on the damn thing. Sometimes I really wish I could shove the comp up a programmers ass and get my cash back.

Thank you. That is a whole evolutionary step (maybe 2) above what I slapped together.

So, some of it depends on your AT and build goals. Perma Dom and Perma Hasten are standard yet easy to screw up your thinking on if you are not algebraically inclined. Standard thinking, softcap Defense. "Softcap" means 45% defense. THis is the effective top defense in standard play. 200% Def is the same as 45% defense. so, softcap. (200 is better, if you get hit with -5% def you laugh. with 200 you can get hit with -155% and laugh. ) Incarnate "softcap" is....65% ? i think. (not much reason to chase it, Leagues are raining Defense auras and Incarnate shields on each other) Building a Tank (anything really but anything Tanky) Defense is greater than resistance is greater than heals. It gets deep fast because Resist based Tanks do not have defense debuff resist, so even if you softcap the defense something like Cimerora enemies just shred it. Can make it more complicated with Dark Armor, (A resist set) that uses two mezze auras and is semi stealthed. Build goals shift depending on playstyle and power picks. very deep very fast. Softcapping one area S/L is generally considered smart. S/L is part of "most" enemies attacks. and all attacks look at every aspect of the attack "ranged/AoE/melee/ S/l, Energy Fire" and chooses your highest Defense against it. I have Ranged Blasters who just use Ranged Defense. And I try to S/L softcap all my melee if at all possible.

I went in a slightly different direction with my Dark Tank. 90% resist, Except to toxic, that at 79% That with Cardiac Core, no other incarnate powers up. Pre incarnate is 89.2 s/l 90 energy 86 fire/cold Defenses are low to mid 20s across the board. The Tank is a side project because my main is a Dark/Dark Brute focused on Damage. And is pretty much unkillable. Once in a great while my Brute will need to heal. Not often. and the heal is always up....just sitting there Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.1.25 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Snarkon: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Dark Armor Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Death Shroud -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(7) Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(9) Level 2: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(11), GldArm-3defTpProc(13), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(13) Level 4: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(15), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17) Level 6: Obsidian Shield -- TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtnCtn-ResDam(17) Level 8: Dark Regeneration -- TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(19), TchoftheN-Heal(19), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(21), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(21), TchoftheN-%Dam(23) Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A) Level 12: Cloak of Darkness -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25), ShlWal-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(27), Rct-ResDam%(40) Level 14: Shadow Maul -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(31), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), ScrDrv-Dam%(33) Level 16: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), CldSns-%Dam(29), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(31) Level 18: Cloak of Fear -- UnsTrr-Acc/Rchg(A), UnsTrr-Acc/Fear/Rchg(33), UnsTrr-Stun%(33) Level 20: Touch of Fear -- UnsTrr-Acc/EndRdx(A), UnsTrr-Acc/Fear/Rchg(34), UnsTrr-Stun%(34) Level 22: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 24: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 26: Oppressive Gloom -- AbsAmz-Stun(A), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(34), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(36), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(36), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(36), AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(37) Level 28: Soul Drain -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(37), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Arm-Acc/Rchg(39), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Arm-Dam%(39) Level 30: Tough -- TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtnCtn-ResDam(40) Level 32: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(40), ShlWal-Def(42), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(42), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(43) Level 35: Dark Consumption -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(42), ScrDrv-Dam%(43) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(43), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Hct-Acc/Rchg(45), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Hct-Dam%(46) Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46) Level 44: Gloom -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Dcm-Build%(48) Level 47: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(50), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Rgn-Knock%(50) Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1459;681;1362;HEX;| |78DA6594D94F136114C5BFE94C2D4BD98452762808DDA450C05D435484085449F0B| |D69EA880DB5255330A24F26E2F2EC030FFA37F8EAEEBF608CC4FDD1075F5C123770| |1B2F734E48934ED2FE66CE3DF7FBEE9D3B33890B63DE3B13974795E63D9A4D150AC| |953A9DCBC69B913A9B94C5AC9E199CDA5ACF97CCE23E7CD0826C7CC3366AE60C6C6| |24923C6C9DCB5B7E461266D6A4EE9C2AEF4C3E9F8DCDE6ADB4692D573917E399B9B| |38B99DC5C05420BA6791AAE6933B520BAFFD842261D3B622D2D9AC9D9FC52369948| |151625BB492AE893DFDD72F9D3366BB3DDEA85AE54DC50AE97E42BD0784DBE01B7B| |D057F6CE63A87ED52570DC456C0B21BE03DF1685C5FFB86BCB2EF60C54F7203F40E| |917E496837D47DC9D591ABEBCCAD666E35736BD7C107E275C3ABB9231A6231F0A1C| |43C4E93B6DBE3D79DB5B73790F560830FEB3434828D4DE086E4A24D5B95175C8EF6| |48844AF654394EFF04D8749C9C045B7CA821F815D7EB925B85F5F4AAF3CAD13A96C| |98B60D725F097786BE0356AAEE07EB65C07DBAE911F5C4EFD1DEFC1C79253C799D4| |3DC57DEC7A4EAE81BFC5534F4FFD3368017A02F4DCEC55CAC7BE7DEFD0B74B1E5B3| |FFA56FE15684F64AD66F8DCCD93D0025360CF3499204F803B4E827F24B7957369DD| |CBD83E723FD877803C481E0275A9A59DF36EE7BC839CB721B14EC48C4ECE27C8F98| |43997F01418E17CFE4A2DDDA8C5D5CDB984399708E7F14F3CBDECB5B70F754482E0| |CE10192623607F14EC969A42C8D54251C518989652A29C4774551094D82D70E0366| |88A27C6BD6343587360981C01E3BBC8DDE41EB051F61EE42C07D96F9BB1F5EE2AD5| |C27E8DAD6F811D298EDB72A8C112255EA20C97282325CA74B1D28F9D670C6E2C9AE| |6B8CA6BE5DD87627FACD8FA8628AD07199F8BB50066F9A9580BC1F7A5585BC5FD18| |95873FCE3EFF03CFAADBAD| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|