Ukase Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Well, call me a fool. Since HC CoH came out, I've gotten two tanks to level 50+3, t-4. Tanks aren't necessarily my favorite AT, but if I play one, I want to at least be competent, in build, if not in my own performance. So, I was reading about the recent suggested tank changes...and I came across this term called bruising. This is a term within CoH I've never heard before. How is it that I've leveled to 50 twice and never come across it? I'm wondering what else is there that's escaped my eyes and left me with an incomplete picture of what being a competent tanker is about. I'm familiar with positioning, I've recently learned about punch-voke, and how to take aggro away from a brute or tank - if I've got enough recharge and can dish out enough damage. But how can I tank full advantage of bruising? Given certain attack chains, I suspect even with bruising, using tier 1 attacks is probably not the best dps. Or is it? Is there any recommended reading I should look at? Thanks in advance.
Bopper Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, Ukase said: So, I was reading about the recent suggested tank changes...and I came across this term called bruising. This is a term within CoH I've never heard before. How is it that I've leveled to 50 twice and never come across it? Well, you kind of dont have to worry about it as Bruising is not long for this world. The devs are going to replace the Bruising mechanic and replace it with a boost in damage modifier. Of course, there's no telling if this will happen soon (they say it won't be) and it's not a definitive change (experimental, they call it). Check out the Beta patch notes to learn more. 1 PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn
Williwaw Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 Bruising was introduced all the way back in in Issue 18, the one that added the alignment system and Praetoria to the game among a lot of other major changes, so it might have gotten lost in the shuffle.
Warboss Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Ukase said: Well, call me a fool. But how can I tank full advantage of bruising? Given certain attack chains, I suspect even with bruising, using tier 1 attacks is probably not the best dps. Or is it? Is there any recommended reading I should look at? Thanks in advance. Hey Ukase, Not a fool, there's a great deal of stuff to know about the game (I tend to forget most of it.. which isn't really useful, but how it works for me), so don't feel bad about not knowing about bruising, gauntlet usually gets talked about more. As far as taking advantage of it, as discussed the other night on TankHQ, it is linked to your T1 attack, which as you stated is probably not the best for DPS. But, it should have the fastest recharge time (I think EM might be the exception to that), and the "debuff" lasts for 8 seconds. So, to take advantage of it, make sure you land a shot with your T1 every 8 seconds (or as close to it as you can) (save slots for other powers, or try adding procs (if you have slots available). Other reading? https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Bruising Nothing warms your opponent like Fiery Melee. Tanker Tuesday and Tanker Tuesday Tour Info: 1st Tuesday-Excelsior 2nd Tuesday-Torchbearer 3rd Tuesday- Everlasting 4th Tuesday- Indomitable Special weekend run for Reunion/Europe
Rathulfr Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 "... But removes all doubt when he opens his mouth." - Abraham Lincoln (One of my favorite quotes) @Rathstar Energy/Energy Blaster (50+3) on Everlasting Energy/Temporal Blaster (50+3) on Excelsior Energy/Willpower Sentinel (50+3) on Indomitable Energy/Energy Sentinel (50+1) on Torchbearer
Ukase Posted September 12, 2019 Author Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Rathulfr said: "... But removes all doubt when he opens his mouth." - Abraham Lincoln (One of my favorite quotes) Actually, Abe didn't say that first. Unless he's older than I thought. It's from Proverbs 17:28
Rathulfr Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ukase said: Actually, Abe didn't say that first. Unless he's older than I thought. It's from Proverbs 17:28 The first line is from Proverbs, but the line I quoted is Abe.* (*: first attributed in 1931, so he probably didn't really say it, but he still gets credit because it's consistent with his sense of humor) Edited September 12, 2019 by Rathulfr 1 @Rathstar Energy/Energy Blaster (50+3) on Everlasting Energy/Temporal Blaster (50+3) on Excelsior Energy/Willpower Sentinel (50+3) on Indomitable Energy/Energy Sentinel (50+1) on Torchbearer
MTeague Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 5:10 PM, Ukase said: Actually, Abe didn't say that first. Unless he's older than I thought. It's from Proverbs 17:28 Well, see, after he got into the phone booth with Bill and Ted, they kinda got lost back in time, so Abe added some proverbs to the ol' Torah before Rufus brought them back to their proper time. 1 Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold
Ukase Posted September 14, 2019 Author Posted September 14, 2019 Well, given this game is all about creativity, and suspension of disbelief, poetic license and all that...everybody gets points! But as Drew Carey says in Whose Line is it Anyway, the points don't matter. 1
Vitaee Posted September 14, 2019 Posted September 14, 2019 "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ---Abraham Lincoln
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