Dark/Dark How Do You Build This??? Lack of Slots

atomictoyguy · October 15, 2019

So, I've been leveling a Dark/Dark Controller, and thus far it has been amazing. However, I am struggling figuring out how to build it? It seem like there are too many powers that need too many slots to be as effective as they should be, and there are too many that are worth taking. I was planning on trying to keep Shadowy Binds just as a damage dealer due to quick containment of bosses and it's quick recharge. I've already skipped Living Shadows, which I would like to take at some point. I struggled with taking Heart of Darkness or Shadow Field at 30. Pretty sure I am going to go Fire for my epic pool unless someone has a compelling alternative. I'm currently 32, and the only power I know I want to skip is Black Hole. Oi Vey, how does one fit in so much awesome!

My objective is to be able to solo at like maybe +2 x 3 or 4 tops once I am 50, with a fairly cost effective build.

Does anyone have any advice on suggested builds, or powers that are OK to skip?

Carnifax · October 15, 2019

Frankenslotting Acc/Hold/Recharge in pairs is good. Essentially 3 slots of enhancement for the price of two. Theres a few common recipies which are reasonably cheap to make.

I remember Stun not being quite as flexible in that regard but even frankenslotting acc/stun or whatever van help.

For Fade you have to go the frankenslotting route for Def/Recharge since it wont accept standard recharge SOs, but those arent cheap. But in that case they pretty much stay even in an end build. Getting it perma and max defenced is worth no set bonuses (other than a LOTG).

For Epic remember they dont do Containment damage so Fire and Earth arent as good as they used to be. Primal is worth a look for Power Boosted fade and Energy Torrent with a kb2kd and a Forced Feedback proc. Plus its actually a slot-cheap pick, especially if you choose Conserve Power as the initial power (Power boost doesnt need any extra slots, nor does Conserve).

Theres a chance PBed Fade could be blocked at some point because it also grants some Resist and resist powers are normally marked to ignore buffs for weird reasons (damage insps will actually also buff the resist for the entire duration if you eat em 1st)

Mercurias · October 15, 2019

I’m with Carnifax in recommending you go with Primal for your Epic over Fire.

Power Boosted Fade is fantastic. For example, my own setup using it gives 25% global Defense. Combined with a high recharge build and 20% Defense (which is rather shockingly easy to build for on controllers if you’re willing to sink in the time to grind for ATOs), you can be softcapped out of the gate before even using a -ToHit debuff.

For my other powers in the Primal Epic, I chose Conserve Power and Energy Torrent. Conserve Power is a circumstantially useful tool in times when you find yourself getting hit by a Malta Sapper or things go wrong and you’re trying to come back from a wipe, and it only requires its base slot to perform that function. Energy Torrent with a Knockback to Knockdown proc in it serves pretty darn well as a control in it’s own right.

You could probably go with Power Blast instead of Energy Torrent, and I tried it, but usually any time I had the option to make an ST attack, I elected to se Possess instead. It’s probably just a matter of preference.

Mercurias · October 15, 2019

Concerning powers that are okay to skip, I would say the four that most come to mine are Shadowy Binds, Shadow Field, Heart of Darkness, and Black Hole.

Shadowy Binds is a ST immobilize which deals some damage and has a fast recharge. There isn’t a lot about this power to hate, but frankly there isn’t a lot about this power that I especially love, either. It’s only value is as an attack, and to make it a useful attack would take more enhancement slots than I’ve ever been willing to put in it. I had Shadowy Binds briefly while leveling, but used a respec to swap it out after getting past level 10.

Shadow Field is a pretty nice power that is punished by a 240 second recharge time. For me, that’s just too long to be feasible, and in my opinion that makes this power a hard pass.

Black Hole is an AoE enemy intangibility power. It’s sort of fun to play with, but it will often only make your Scrappers and Brutes cranky while they wait to crunch up whatever you’ve shunted in there, and I would just as soon use Fearsome Gaze instead. I usually skip this buckaroo.

Heart of Darkness is a PBAoE Stun with a fairly long recharge (my build has it down to 45 seconds). I don’t like PBAoE Mez powers on controllers as a general rule (I like having the option of being able to fire them off from range), but this particular Primary/Secondary combo can use it well. Heart of Darkness can stack its magnitude with the stun in Howling Twilight, enabling you to both revise your entire team from a wipe AND stun any enemy up to the level of a Boss. It also ends up being a useful power to fire off after using Soul Absorption.

Of the four, I have Heart of Darkness 2-slotted as my level 49 power choice. It works well there for the investment.

Edited October 15, 2019 by Mercurias

Coyote · October 15, 2019

Remember that Heart of Darkness takes PBAoE damage sets, and procs in it will have a 90% activation chance. With 5 or so procs, it's over 300 damage, and with the build being so strong defensively I feel that it can use offense more than defense. Personally I'm underslotting Darkest Night and a couple of other defensive powers in order to turn HoD into a mini-nuke.

Carnifax · October 15, 2019

Id also always take Heart of Darkness because you do have two reasons to be edging towards melee range : Soul drain thingy and Twilight Grasp. You need to be reasonably close for both. Yes, itd be better if it were ranged like Flashfire or earths stun but its still useful as a pbaoe.

atomictoyguy · October 15, 2019

Thanks for the tips! Anyone care to share their build?

Avilister · October 17, 2019

Here's my Dark/Dark build. Its a ProcMonster build that I think I mostly lifted from other threads. I don't actually have this build completed, most of the purple IOs and sets are replaced in my currently live build with nearest non-purp equivalents until I can afford to focus a bit more money into this character.

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ProcMonster: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), NrnSht-Dam%(13), GldJvl-Dam%(13), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(27), UnbCns-Dam%(29), GldNet-Dam%(29)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(3), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Prv-Heal/Rchg(5), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(5), Prv-Absorb%(7)
Level 2: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(11)
Level 6: Possess -- CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(A), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(34), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(36), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(36), CrcPrs-Conf%(36)
Level 8: Fearsome Stare -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(11), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(15), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(37), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(50)
Level 10: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Heart of Darkness -- Arm-Acc/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), ScrDrv-Dam%(37), Obl-%Dam(37), Arm-Dam%(40), CldSns-%Dam(40)
Level 14: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17), Ksm-ToHit+(17), HO:Ribo(19), Rct-ResDam%(19), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(23)
Level 18: Kick -- Acc-I(A)
Level 20: Fade -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(21), Rct-Def/Rchg(21), HO:Ribo(23)
Level 22: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Haunt -- ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(27), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(43), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), CldSns-%Dam(45)
Level 28: Soul Absorption -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(31), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 32: Umbra Beast -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(33), SlbAll-Build%(34), CldSns-%Dam(34)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(39), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 41: Power Blast -- Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Apc-Dmg(42), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Rchg(43), GldJvl-Dam%(45)
Level 44: Energy Torrent -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Rgn-Dmg(45), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(46), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(46), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)
Level 47: Temp Invulnerability -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), UnbGrd-Max HP%(48)
Level 49: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(7), Mrc-Rcvry+(9)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(9)
Level 50: Intuition Radial Paragon
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Clarion Core Epiphany
Level 50: Support Core Embodiment
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
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Mercurias · October 17, 2019

My Dark/Dark/Primal with Super Speed and Leadership is weirdly both similar and different to yours, Avilister. I didn't push the proc route as hard as you did, and as such it has less damage overall, but I like its overall versatility.

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Soren Walker 2: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp -- Apc-Dam%:50(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), Apc-Acc/Rchg:50(43), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Apc-Dmg/Rchg:50(43)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- ThfofEss-+End%:30(A), ThfofEss-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:30(5), ThfofEss-Acc/Heal:30(37), Pnc-Heal/Rchg:50(45)
Level 2: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 4: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth:50(A)
Level 6: Possess -- CrcPrs-Conf%:50(A), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx:50(7), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg:50(7), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg:50(37), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg:50(37)
Level 8: Fearsome Stare -- SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font:50(A), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%:50(9), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear:50(11), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg:50(11), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx:50(15)
Level 10: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), Ksm-ToHit+:30(13), LucoftheG-Def:50(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(31)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(15)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(17), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(17), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(36), LucoftheG-Def:50(40)
Level 18: Haunt -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg:50(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(19), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg:50(19), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), CaltoArm-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg:30(34), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(34)
Level 20: Fade -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), RedFrt-Def:50(21), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx:50(21), RedFrt-Def/Rchg:50(31), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(50)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(23), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(31)
Level 24: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx:50(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx:50(25), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx:50(25), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb:50(27)
Level 26: Living Shadows -- GrvAnc-Immob/EndRdx:50(A), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg:50(27)
Level 28: Soul Absorption -- EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 30: Tactics -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 32: Umbra Beast -- ExpRnf-+Res(Pets):50(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg:50(33), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), CldSns-%Dam:30(36)
Level 35: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-ToHitDeb:30(A), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg:30(39), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:30(39), CldSns-%Dam:30(39)
Level 41: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-Max HP%:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(42), UnbGrd-ResDam:50(42)
Level 44: Heart of Darkness -- ScrDrv-Dam%:50(A), Obl-%Dam:50(45), Arm-Dam%:50(45), CldSns-%Dam:30(46), Erd-%Dam:30(46), Arm-Acc/Rchg:50(46)
Level 47: Energy Torrent -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech:50(A), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech:50(48), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End:50(48), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg:50(48), OvrFrc-Dam/KB:50(50), FrcFdb-Rechg%:50(50)
Level 49: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I:50(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I:50(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(3), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(5)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(3)
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Clarion Core Epiphany
Level 50: Control Radial Embodiment
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Edited October 17, 2019 by Mercurias

Doc Ranger · October 17, 2019

Here's what I'm running with...I can solo +4/+8 content. Very good control. On teams without Brutes/Tanks I often run point and take alphas (that don't actually hit). This is my favorite toon by far.

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Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(40)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- TchoftheN-%Dam(A), TchoftheN-Heal(5), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(5), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(15), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(40), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(50)
Level 2: Living Shadows -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(7), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(36), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Rgn-Knock%(42)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 6: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(9), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(31), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(42)
Level 8: Fearsome Stare -- SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprOvrPrs-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(11), SprOvrPrs-EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(36), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(43)
Level 10: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(17), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17), Rct-ResDam%(19), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(19), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(21)
Level 18: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Fade -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(21), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), LucoftheG-Def(23), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(25), UnbGrd-Max HP%(25)
Level 22: Heart of Darkness -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(27), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(29), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(48)
Level 24: Haunt -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(31), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(36), CldSns-%Dam(46)
Level 26: Shadow Field -- BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(33), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(33), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(37), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43)
Level 28: Soul Absorption -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(33), EffAdp-EndMod(34), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(37), PrfShf-End%(46)
Level 30: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 32: Umbra Beast -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(34), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37), CldSns-%Dam(45), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(45)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(39), CldSns-ToHitDeb(39)
Level 41: Hibernate -- Prv-Heal(A)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Ice Storm -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A), Ann-ResDeb%(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(50), PstBls-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(13), EffAdp-EndMod(46)
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Edited October 17, 2019 by Ice_Warden

Erydanus · October 23, 2019

On ‎10‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 6:38 AM, Mercurias said:

Concerning powers that are okay to skip, I would say the four that most come to mine are Shadowy Binds, Shadow Field, Heart of Darkness, and Black Hole.

Shadowy Binds is a ST immobilize which deals some damage and has a fast recharge. There isn’t a lot about this power to hate, but frankly there isn’t a lot about this power that I especially love, either. It’s only value is as an attack, and to make it a useful attack would take more enhancement slots than I’ve ever been willing to put in it. I had Shadowy Binds briefly while leveling, but used a respec to swap it out after getting past level 10.

Shadow Field is a pretty nice power that is punished by a 240 second recharge time. For me, that’s just too long to be feasible, and in my opinion that makes this power a hard pass.

A few thoughts on these comments -

Shadowy Binds, you said "to make it a useful attack would take more enhancement slots than I’ve ever been willing to put in it. " You need only slot it with 1 accuracy and 3 damage for it to be a useful attack, just as with any other. It actually has the typical 90% base accuracy that controller single target holds & immobilizes all have. You do not need to enhance its immobilize duration for general use. As the OP noted, it's just a good single target attack.

You also said Shadow field is "punished by a 240 second recharge time" and I feel it should be pointed out that it has the standard 240 second recharge time that every single controller AoE hold has. If you don't find that type of power useful that's fair; a lot of people stopped using them when they were all nerfed and had their durations halved and their cooldowns doubled at the same time to give us the numbers we have today (in i6 I think it was). But Shadow Field is a bit like Volcanic Gasses in that it summons a pseudopet and maintains a persistant holding field. Tactically, I grade it to be one of the best of all such holds as you can place it and draw foes in or directly cast it; I actually have it macroed to cast on my current target as if it were a standard targeted AoE though it is actually a GTAOE.

OP noted that Living Shadows was skipped for the moment but would like it soon, and in my case I made room for Living Shadows by delaying Heart of Darkness. My feeling was that Heart of Darkness could actually wait a long time because Howling Twilight is an autohit ranged targeted stun and can lockdown the not-bosses so well. As far as stacking Heart of Darkness on top of HT, that requires moving into range (assumably well protected by Shadowfall and Fade) and really you'd only need to do that on bosses most of the time so I'd rather just spam Dark Grasp a couple times or deploy Shadow Field and use Dark Grasp. So like Mercurias mine's going to be slotted in about level 49.

Dark/Dark has so many good powers it really is hard to prioritize them though you will want almost everything. Mostly it comes down to do you team or solo because that will impact your play style and make getting the AoE immobilize and the fear a higher priority than if you were soloing. Keep in mind that with stamina inherent it really frees build slots (powers) up compared to ye olde days. Even if you take every power in your primary and secondary you'll have 2 power choices that must be filled with pool powers; for me I just took Sorcery pool, flight and arcane bolt for 1 travel power and a source of off-type damage when soloing. With the ridiculous buffs in Shadow Fall and Fade I don't feel like I need to take any leadership powers for the team or any fighting pool powers for tough and weave. I mean seriously if you need tough and weave when you're a dark controller you're doing something wrong, nothing should be able to touch you already from your inherent tohit debuffs, defense buffs, and you know, controls.

Edited October 23, 2019 by Erydanus
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Mercurias · October 23, 2019

Oh yeah! You're right about the recharge time for sure. I guess I should've double-checked before I posted.

My opinion still stands with both Shadowy Binds and Shadow Field, though. Shadow Field is a good power, but I don't feel it's essential the way Fearsome Stare is. Likewise, my build for Dark/Dark is pretty tight. I can't spare three additional slots and a power choice for a ST DoT Immob. It's purely in the realm of my own preference, but I'm fine with the choice to exclude them if I have to explude something.

Doc Ranger · October 24, 2019

I run Fighting pool on mine, I took HoD fairly early, and I did not take Shadowy Binds.

I don’t get hit at all in normal content but it’s for the serious content that I took Fighting pool.

Different strokes...

I absolutely love Living Shadows...can’t imagine a dark build without it.

I also love Shadow Field. But I can see how certain play styles wouldn’t dig it.

I play in the middle of the action so Fighting pool and all the other tools are important to me.

arkieboy72472 · October 27, 2019

If you want, OP, I can post screen shots of my Dark/Dark/Soul controller who I love very much.

Xingularity · October 28, 2019

On 10/26/2019 at 10:03 PM, arkieboy72472 said:

If you want, OP, I can post screen shots of my Dark/Dark/Soul controller who I love very much.

I'd like that Arkieboy, I love looking at the different builds. I have a lvl 40 dark/dark and trying to figure out my best moves for the next 10 levels here. 🙂

Doc Ranger · November 8, 2019

Funny little mini story...me and some SG mates were doing the Mot AV mish in DA the other day. There were only 5 of us and he had it cranked it up so Mot was a 54+3.

I was the only troller (Dk/Dk), we had a SS/Inv tank, a sentinel, a water blaster and something else.

We didn't even put a dent in him but after about 20mins on him they had faceplanted faster than I could rez them. They went to the hosp and came back several times. Then entire time I never died...and a few times I was in there with him by myself. That was quite satisfying I must say.

We didn't have enough firepower to do much to him and I only have my Alpha at T4...the rest are T3. And none of my mates had T4s at all.

They were amazed when they kept coming back and I was still there debuffing the hell out of him. Apparently he saps end sometimes because my end became a problem a few times since there weren't enough enemies around to use Soul Absorption to any real benefit.

Fun fight...will return with more people eventually.

Doomguide2005 · November 8, 2019

We're you hitting him with Howling Twilight? Unfortunately life and a dead harddrive conspired to keep me out of the game towards the end and I was curious about the being unable to hurt him much part?

Doc Ranger · November 9, 2019

Yeah howling twilight as often as I could because my teammates were eating dirt 🙂

But he regularly shoots spikes up from the floor that hit pretty hard no matter if you are flying or not. The room is quite small and there is no escape.

We think the fact that he was in effect a 57 AV is what really kept the 5 of us from doing any real damage. I am a 50 +3 and my teammates were 50 +1 so it was a rough fight.

zohawn · February 1, 2020

On 10/17/2019 at 5:35 PM, Ice_Warden said:

Here's what I'm running with...I can solo +4/+8 content. Very good control. On teams without Brutes/Tanks I often run point and take alphas (that don't actually hit). This is my favorite toon by far.

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Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.1
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Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(40)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- TchoftheN-%Dam(A), TchoftheN-Heal(5), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(5), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(15), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(40), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(50)
Level 2: Living Shadows -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(7), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(36), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Rgn-Knock%(42)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 6: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(9), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(31), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(42)
Level 8: Fearsome Stare -- SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprOvrPrs-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(11), SprOvrPrs-EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(36), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(43)
Level 10: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(17), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17), Rct-ResDam%(19), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(19), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(21)
Level 18: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Fade -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(21), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), LucoftheG-Def(23), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(25), UnbGrd-Max HP%(25)
Level 22: Heart of Darkness -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(27), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(29), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(48)
Level 24: Haunt -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(31), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(36), CldSns-%Dam(46)
Level 26: Shadow Field -- BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(33), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(33), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(37), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43)
Level 28: Soul Absorption -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(33), EffAdp-EndMod(34), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(37), PrfShf-End%(46)
Level 30: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 32: Umbra Beast -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(34), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37), CldSns-%Dam(45), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(45)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(39), CldSns-ToHitDeb(39)
Level 41: Hibernate -- Prv-Heal(A)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Ice Storm -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A), Ann-ResDeb%(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(50), PstBls-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(13), EffAdp-EndMod(46)
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What incarnates?

Doc Ranger · February 2, 2020

I took Intuition, Ion, Spectral, Carnival, Clarion and Control.

Peacemoon · March 3, 2020

On 10/18/2019 at 12:35 AM, Ice_Warden said:

Here's what I'm running with...I can solo +4/+8 content. Very good control. On teams without Brutes/Tanks I often run point and take alphas (that don't actually hit). This is my favorite toon by far.

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Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.1
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Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(29), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(40)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- TchoftheN-%Dam(A), TchoftheN-Heal(5), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(5), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(15), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(40), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(50)
Level 2: Living Shadows -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(7), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(36), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Rgn-Knock%(42)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 6: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(9), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(31), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(42)
Level 8: Fearsome Stare -- SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprOvrPrs-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(11), SprOvrPrs-EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(36), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(43)
Level 10: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(17), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17), Rct-ResDam%(19), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(19), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(21)
Level 18: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Fade -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(21), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), LucoftheG-Def(23), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(25), UnbGrd-Max HP%(25)
Level 22: Heart of Darkness -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(27), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(29), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(48)
Level 24: Haunt -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(31), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(36), CldSns-%Dam(46)
Level 26: Shadow Field -- BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(33), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(33), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(37), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43)
Level 28: Soul Absorption -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(33), EffAdp-EndMod(34), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(37), PrfShf-End%(46)
Level 30: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 32: Umbra Beast -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(34), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37), CldSns-%Dam(45), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(45)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(39), CldSns-ToHitDeb(39)
Level 41: Hibernate -- Prv-Heal(A)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Ice Storm -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A), Ann-ResDeb%(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(50), PstBls-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(13), EffAdp-EndMod(46)
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Thank you, this build is great!

I'm pretty keen to have the Soul mastery patron pool instead of Ice mastery, just for theme. Any recommendations for how to slot the powers?

Doc Ranger · March 3, 2020

2 hours ago, Peacemoon said:

Thank you, this build is great!

I'm pretty keen to have the Soul mastery patron pool instead of Ice mastery, just for theme. Any recommendations for how to slot the powers?

Funny you should ask...I have since switched to soul and here it is...

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
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Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp

(A) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge
(3) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge
(3) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold
(29) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge
(50) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 1: Twilight Grasp

(A) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
(5) Touch of the Nictus - Healing
(5) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing
(15) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge
(40) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration

Level 2: Living Shadows

(A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
(7) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
(7) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
(36) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
(42) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold

Level 4: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(9) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 6: Darkest Night

(A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance
(9) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff
(31) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
(42) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge

Level 8: Fearsome Stare

(A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized
(11) Superior Will of the Controller - Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Recharge
(11) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge
(36) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance
(43) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage

Level 10: Fly

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 12: Boxing

(A) Empty

Level 14: Tar Patch

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(15) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 16: Shadow Fall

(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
(17) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
(17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 18: Howling Twilight

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 20: Fade

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
(23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(25) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge

Level 22: Heart of Darkness

(A) Absolute Amazement - Stun
(27) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge
(27) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
(29) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge
(40) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun

Level 24: Haunt

(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
(31) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(31) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(36) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
(50) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 26: Shadow Field

(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
(33) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
(33) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
(37) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold

Level 28: Soul Absorption

(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(33) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
(34) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
(37) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 30: Tough

(A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(40) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(43) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance

Level 32: Umbra Beast

(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(37) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets
(48) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 35: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(46) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 38: Dark Servant

(A) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
(39) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff
(39) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge
(39) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff

Level 41: Dark Embrace

(A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
(45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(46) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(48) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 44: Dark Obliteration

(A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
(46) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
(48) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 47: Soul Drain

(A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
(50) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 49: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Containment

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

Peacemoon · March 3, 2020

Cheers! Still leveling my Dark/Dark (32), but will use this as a guide. So far he’s been really fun. I love the pet, although he does tend to use his howl a lot (which I think is a ST immobilise?).

SaddestGhost · March 4, 2020

Here was a take on a dark/dark/soul I worked up. It could probably do more damage if you leveraged procs, but it should be quite tanky.

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(5), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(5), UnbCns-Dam%(40), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(25), GldNet-Dam%(43)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- TchoftheN-Heal(A), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(46), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Acc-I(48)
Level 2: Living Shadows -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3)
Level 4: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 8: Fearsome Stare -- SphIns-ToHitDeb(A), SphIns-%ToHit(9), SphIns-Acc/ToHitDeb(9), SphIns-Acc/Rchg(37), SphIns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SphIns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 10: Possess -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(13), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(13), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(11), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(11), CrcPrs-Conf%(34)
Level 12: Heart of Darkness -- SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(A), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(34), SprOvrPrs-EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(15)
Level 14: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(17), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(17), Ags-ResDam(19), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(19), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)
Level 18: Haunt -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(27), SlbAll-Build%(29), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 20: Fade -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(21), GldArm-RechRes(23), GldArm-ResDam(23), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), GldArm-3defTpProc(50)
Level 22: Shadowy Binds -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 24: Darkest Night -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Shadow Field -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(31), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(31), Lck-%Hold(36)
Level 28: Soul Absorption -- PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(37)
Level 30: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39)
Level 32: Umbra Beast -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(33), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33)
Level 35: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- SphIns-ToHitDeb(A), SphIns-Acc/ToHitDeb(40), SphIns-Acc/Rchg(40), SphIns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SphIns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SphIns-%ToHit(48)
Level 41: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Knock%(A), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(43), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Soul Drain -- Obl-Acc/Rchg(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), PrfShf-EndMod(7), PrfShf-End%(7)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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Graymage1 · March 9, 2020

Here is my Dark/Dark/Fire

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.2
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Darkness Control
Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Grasp -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(11), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(15), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(21)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(3), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(11)
Level 2: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(5)
Level 4: Living Shadows -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(23), CldSns-ToHitDeb(25), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 6: Possess -- CrcPrs-Conf%(A), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(7), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(7), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(9), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(9)
Level 8: Fearsome Stare -- SphIns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SphIns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SphIns-ToHitDeb(27), SphIns-Acc/ToHitDeb(27), SphIns-Acc/Rchg(29), SphIns-%ToHit(50)
Level 10: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(33)
Level 12: Howling Twilight -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(17), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(50)
Level 18: Haunt -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(19), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 20: Fade -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def/Rchg(34), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Rct-Def/EndRdx(37), Rct-Def(37), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(23), LucoftheG-Def(29)
Level 24: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Shadow Field -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(40), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(45), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(45)
Level 28: Soul Absorption -- Prv-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(31), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(31), PrfShf-EndMod(39), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(40)
Level 30: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(31), StdPrt-ResKB(33)
Level 32: Umbra Beast -- SlbAll-Build%(A), SlbAll-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SlbAll-Dmg(40), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(36), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(39), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(46), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(46), Lck-%Hold(48)
Level 41: Fire Blast -- Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Dcm-Acc/Dmg(42), Dcm-Build%(42), Dvs-Hold%(43), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Fire Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(50)
Level 47: Super Speed -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(19)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(13), EndMod-I(15)
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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