Sgt. Terminus Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I am going with Water Spout on my Ice/Bio stalker and wondering what to slot in it. I want to use it, not just for a mule, since I can use it as a temporary pet while I use my ice attacks to build Assassin's Focus. I was thinking FF+Recharge for sure but not sure about the rest. I have read recommendations to just put all proc's but I would think you want some recharge reduction to use it more often. Not looking for any particular set bonuses but I wouldn't turn them down either. Curious what has worked well for others. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seresibyl3 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just go for it Level 38: Water Spout -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(39), Ann-ResDeb%(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39), JvlVll-Dam%(40), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(40) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosticus Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Why would you put ffback in waterspout? Earth/Psi Dom - AV killer Crazy Controllers - 2021 edition - Illusion/Cold Poison - a guide to the most deadly poisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microcosm Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Ff is not great in waterspout. It is a practically guaranteed fire on summon, but it can't fire after that since the pet itself doesn't benefit from the procs. That's not a lot of up time. If you don't have a place to put the two resistance procs it takes it is a good spot for those or 5 of the Ragnarok set. There's no reason to do a kb to kd either, as it does knockup, not knockback. Edited June 23, 2020 by Microcosm Inspiration maker's guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiramon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Oops on the kd. but the ff proc is still worth it IMO like it’s worth it in tornado. Just little less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 yeah skip the FF +rech in pseudo pets unless you are going wild and putting it in all your longer recharge powers. "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosticus Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, kiramon said: Oops on the kd. but the ff proc is still worth it IMO like it’s worth it in tornado. Just little less so. a lot less so. Waterspout has a rech of 180 sec. Even with slotting and good global rech you are looking at 50+ seconds between uses. ff-rech is a 5 sec buff. A stormy can get off 3 tornados in that amount of time. Up to you but there is likely better places to spend said slot. Earth/Psi Dom - AV killer Crazy Controllers - 2021 edition - Illusion/Cold Poison - a guide to the most deadly poisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiramon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, Frosticus said: a lot less so. Waterspout has a rech of 180 sec. Even with slotting and good global rech you are looking at 50+ seconds between uses. ff-rech is a 5 sec buff. A stormy can get off 3 tornados in that amount of time. Up to you but there is likely better places to spend said slot. Which would make it about equal to a lotg no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosticus Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, kiramon said: Which would make it about equal to a lotg no ? Yes, if you already have a high recharge build and you cast it everytime it recharges it will be similar to a lotg for your long cool downs, but have little benefit on your short cool downs. The more global recharge you have to better the ff-back would be in waterspout, but the less you'd likely need/benefit from the recharge. Depends what you expect in the end. Earth/Psi Dom - AV killer Crazy Controllers - 2021 edition - Illusion/Cold Poison - a guide to the most deadly poisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icesphere Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I went with the annihilation IOs for damage and the -res procs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshacklef0rd Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 3 damage/mez hammis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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