Every upgrade for 3.0 results in .NET errors and broken program, requiring reinstall.

[Hyperstrike]

Okay guys.  Every version of 3.0 I've run, when trying to run the upgrade results in a .NET error forcing a crash AND declaring the upgrade "successful".
Afterwards, I'm left with a damaged, non-running install of the program.  Right now I've tried upgrading to 3.0.4.7 and it's done it yet again.

Win 10 Enterprise
24GB RAM
i7 920
Running on a known-good, tested SATA Samsung SSD.

With the update in the program, can we just have the option to open a webpage and download the installer executable?  Rather than just auto-launching an obviously buggy updater?
Because I'm getting HEARTILY sick of having to reinstall multiple times before I wind up with a successful, CURRENT VERSION of the program.

Sorry if I come across bitchy here.  I was trying to just slip in for a couple minutes to look at something before having to get back to work and that's all shot to hell now.

[Bopper]

Do you have .NET 4.8 installed? 

[Hyperstrike]

2 hours ago, Bopper said:

Do you have .NET 4.8 installed? 

 

reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v4\full" /v version

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v4\full
    version    REG_SZ    4.8.03761

[Ura Hero]

Try the .Net repair tool.  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30135

[Metalios]

4 hours ago, Hyperstrike said:

Okay guys.  Every version of 3.0 I've run, when trying to run the upgrade results in a .NET error forcing a crash AND declaring the upgrade "successful".
Afterwards, I'm left with a damaged, non-running install of the program.  Right now I've tried upgrading to 3.0.4.7 and it's done it yet again.

Win 10 Enterprise
24GB RAM
i7 920
Running on a known-good, tested SATA Samsung SSD.

With the update in the program, can we just have the option to open a webpage and download the installer executable?  Rather than just auto-launching an obviously buggy updater?
Because I'm getting HEARTILY sick of having to reinstall multiple times before I wind up with a successful, CURRENT VERSION of the program.

Sorry if I come across bitchy here.  I was trying to just slip in for a couple minutes to look at something before having to get back to work and that's all shot to hell now.

First and foremost, ranting about something that is provided to you for FREE is not helping your case at all.
With that being said, if you checked either our Discord or our main post here on HC's forums you would notice there is information regarding downloading the app as well as a link to our website for downloading said app's installer.

Edited February 10, 2021 by crytilis

[Hyperstrike]

1 hour ago, Ura Hero said:

Try the .Net repair tool.  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30135

I've done this after each and every upgrade.
I've stripped the broken install off the machine.  I've stripped the remnants off the machine.
I've even blown out all the registry entries.
Run the repair too.
 

[Hyperstrike]

First: Fine, I'll just stop providing feedback on broken things.  Thanks.

Second: I KNOW the link is there on the forum.  Point well and thoroughly missed.
I was asking that, instead of auto-launching the updater, give people a screen offering the OPTION to manually download the file via a link OR run the updater.

Edited February 10, 2021 by Hyperstrike

[Felis Noctu]

We have had several issues with the updater in the past, yes. We went through a couple different iterations of it, trying to get new functions to operate correctly with the old code. This latest iteration seems to work just fine, however we have told people in the past to do a fresh install from the website if they're having problems. So I'm going to tell you the same thing.

 

Please fully uninstall Mids from the Windows Settings > Apps & Features screen, and then install a completely fresh copy from the website. If you're still having issues with future updates with this fresh copy, but others aren't, then we can be fairly sure that the issue is on your end and not ours and can troubleshoot from there.

 

Again, we haven't had people complaining about updating about going from the last version to this most recent (except for your report here), so if it breaks again, it's not likely to be Mids specifically, but something related to .NET.

Edited February 10, 2021 by Felis Noctu

[Hyperstrike]

5 hours ago, Felis Noctu said:

We have had several issues with the updater in the past, yes. We went through a couple different iterations of it, trying to get new functions to operate correctly with the old code. This latest iteration seems to work just fine, however we have told people in the past to do a fresh install from the website if they're having problems. So I'm going to tell you the same thing.

 

Please fully uninstall Mids from the Windows Settings > Apps & Features screen, and then install a completely fresh copy from the website. If you're still having issues with future updates with this fresh copy, but others aren't, then we can be fairly sure that the issue is on your end and not ours and can troubleshoot from there.

 

Again, we haven't had people complaining about updating about going from the last version to this most recent (except for your report here), so if it breaks again, it's not likely to be Mids specifically, but something related to .NET.

That's just it.  Every version of 3.0 I've run has involved:

Updater set to "Blend".
I have to go in and remove the "New" version, and scrub files and registry.
I then have to go in and remove the "Older" version and ALSO scrub files and registry (mostly just scrubbing registry because the files are already gone).
Manually nuke the remaining folder.
Run the .NET repair tool to make sure .NET is actually okay.
Hit the website, download and install the latest EXE.

And I got to have fun fixing that again tonight when I was time-crunched.
Because my hand twitched.
Hence my suggestion to make the menu item take you to an intermediate screen to gain positive consent or to tell you "Hey!  There's an update.  You can grab it here!  And present a link to the MidsReborn site.

[Ura Hero]

There seems to be something really broken with .Net. lately.  Like @Hyperstrike I tried everything to get my programs to work.  Mids wasn't affected, but I couldn't use my mail program and TurboTax wouldn't run.  I never did figure it out after two months of Googling and tons of help desk support.  I finally gave up and did a reinstall of Windows and it all woks fine now.  Not that I am suggesting reinstallation as a fix, just information that this probably isn't just a one person issue.

Edited February 10, 2021 by Ura Hero