ThaOGDreamWeaver Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) So, as you may have heard from the howls of blood-curdling outrage from Certain Corners Of The Internet Where They Have Opinions At You, the Ms.Marvel trailer dropped today. And here it is... Stuff to note: The powers have changed a little bit to energy projection, coupled to what looks like a rather elegant quantum device of some kind. I suspect this is either going to tie up with Shang-Chi's rings, Photon and Cap M's energy powers, or both. I like. Easier/cheaper to film convincingly than stretching skin, certainly, and gives her a wider toolkit of powers. Iman herself looks pleasingly normal and more than slightly adorkable. (Teamup with Turning Red's Mei would be hella fun, as they're both Disney properties...) As you're aware if you've read my other threads, I'm a Level 47 Social Justice/Righteous Rage Armour Scrapper with a fully slotted Epic Wokeness set. Buuuttt... the trailer is ever so slightly too worthy even for my tastes. Was expecting more Parker-level wisecracking. Also feels a lot like a high-budget version of Disney or Nick's endless superhero/wizard-based teen comedies*. Half expecting a Mitchell Musso guest shot somewhere. (Would be quite fun if he turned up as a villain, mind.) Speaking of which, not clear who the antagonists are or why we should care about them. All that said, it seems there's a lot of love for the original books here - particularly that last shot of her on the lamppost. Packing everything about why you should be excited for a flick or series into 90 seconds is not easy. I'm not sure they've made the best choices they could here, but willing to give it a shot. *...though not the one where someone keeps three teen superheroes locked in their basement and feeds them limited info about the outside world, which is in no way a supervillain/Weinstein-level supercreep move and would not cause me to telephone la police/SHIELD if I found out about it. Edited March 15, 2022 by ThaOGDreamWeaver Let the wild speculation begin! (But keep it sane/polite, everybody.) WAKE UP YA MISCREANTS AND... HEY, GET YOUR OWN DAMN SIGNATURE. Look out for me being generally cool, stylish and funny (delete as applicable) on Excelsior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougGraves Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The general assumption is that Mr. Fantastic will be in the MCU soon and they didn't want two characters with the same stretching powers. And the inhumans and terrigen mist is not a thing in the MCU. Just in AoS. So tying her to Captain Marvel with Kree technology probably fits better in the MCU. The whole thing made me think off Never Have I Ever, a funny Netflix show about an Indian girl in high school in the U.S. (I know Kamala is from Pakistan). In NHIE she has a cousin named Kamala. My daughter loves Kamala so she will probably love the show. It looks entertaining enough. Clearly Marvel is pushing for young female superheroes as hard in the MCU as they have been in the comics. That may help expand their market. They don't need to be bigger, but its Disney so they can always get bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancrusher Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Trailer didn't wow me, but I'll give it a shot before I make up my mind. Honestly, I'm not at all familiar with this character, so it's all new to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono-Bot Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I'm looking forward to it! I really liked the original comics run and it'll be neat to see Kamala in live action. I think the power change makes sense in a visual appeal sort of way, although I do fondly recall the times in the comics people were like 'your powers are gross and weird' because there needs to be more of that in powers. I am @Chrono-Bot! SGs: Girls Gone Rogue Isles, The Helping Hands, The Orange Bagels, Paragon's Perfectly Normal Heroes. Server: Everlasting! See my characters, now with photos, below! https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/33049-chrono-bots-characters/ I'm not NOT here to make friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougGraves Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 New Rockstars goes over MCU stuff frame by frame. Their take is that it looks like she does stretch, she just also glows. So it may be stretching with extra sparkle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraAlt Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 4:41 PM, ThaOGDreamWeaver said: The powers have changed a little bit to energy projection, coupled to what looks like a rather elegant quantum device of some kind. I suspect this is either going to tie up with Shang-Chi's rings, Photon and Cap M's energy powers, or both. I like. Easier/cheaper to film convincingly than stretching skin, certainly, and gives her a wider toolkit of powers. Nega bands? If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they may be on ignore. (It seems I'm involved with so much at this point that I may not be able to easily retrieve access to all the notifications) Some players know that I have them on ignore and are likely to make posts knowing that is the case. But the fact that I have them on ignore won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. There is a group that have banded together to target forum posters they don't like. They think that this behavior is acceptable. Ignore (in the forums) and /ignore (in-game) are tools to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougGraves Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 In the trailer she does something and flips upside down through the floor and is in a different place. I could see that being using the nega bands to travel to the negative zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorDitko Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Oh, I hope it's Nega-Bands! I understand Quantum Bands are also an option, but to me as a kid in the '70s, clashing wristbands together is second only to smashing your cane on the ground as a transformation emote. "Revengers Resemble!" Or something like that. 1 Disclaimer: Not a medical doctor. Do not take medical advice from Doctor Ditko. Also, not a physicist. Do not take advice on consensus reality from Doctor Ditko. But games? He used to pay his bills with games. (He's recovering well, thanks for asking!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbiter Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I've dropped my subscription to Disney+ and will not be picking it back up again. 1 Torchbearer Discount Heroes SG: Frostbiter - Ice/Ice Blaster Throneblade - Broadsword/Dark Armor Brute Silver Mantra - Martial Arts/Electric Armor Scrapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbiter Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I didn't drop my subscription to Disney for the shows they make. This show was not made with me in mind as an audience and that's ok with me. I don't need everything to be made with me in mind, I'm not a child. I dropped my subscription because I am not required to pay for any service I don't want and I am not obligated to offer any reasons why, even though if I cared enough I could give more than a few legitimate ones. I don't see this as a place for such discussions, beyond offering my legitimate but limited feedback about something. 2 Torchbearer Discount Heroes SG: Frostbiter - Ice/Ice Blaster Throneblade - Broadsword/Dark Armor Brute Silver Mantra - Martial Arts/Electric Armor Scrapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougGraves Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 We are keeping our Disney+ for now, although really we should cancel and then just watch every 6 months when they have 2 shows out to watch. We are canceling Netflix and going to subscribe to Apple TV. We need to start rotating our subscriptions to see just the stuff we really want instead of watching shows we half want to see because we already have the subscription. Hulu would be next to subscribe to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaOGDreamWeaver Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Kept D+ - not just because I'm liking the content, but all the other quite odd bits that are turning up in there. I don't know who their movie curator is, but they've got my tastes well served. Dropped Netflix, and nothing they've announced lately is likely to tempt me back. Kept Amazon because it comes with free parcel delivery (and decent old shows - caught myself binging The Blacklist, which still makes me hopeful for either a Kingpin or Thunderbolts bad guy-oriented D+ series or movie. Bad guys and rogues are fun to write for and even more to play. And while I've got a whole other thread from a while back about the ludicrous range of streaming platforms, the only one I felt has truly done fans dirty is Paramount+. It's expensive, the non-Trek content is pretty limited, and in the UK it's only available through one of the Evil Empire's most expensive packages. WAKE UP YA MISCREANTS AND... HEY, GET YOUR OWN DAMN SIGNATURE. Look out for me being generally cool, stylish and funny (delete as applicable) on Excelsior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrauleinMental Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I seem to be a half-step behind in the branding for Disney+. When I saw the D+, I thought it was a grade... 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaOGDreamWeaver Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 Side note... fandoms gonna fandom 😛 1 WAKE UP YA MISCREANTS AND... HEY, GET YOUR OWN DAMN SIGNATURE. Look out for me being generally cool, stylish and funny (delete as applicable) on Excelsior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starro Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I was initially opposed to subscription services, but after cutting the cable -- I love it, especially the savings. No more paying $60 a month for 100 channels I don't want to watch Great content and I jump between different subscriptions and only pay $6-$15 month. 1 "She who lives by the cybernetic monstrosity powered by living coral, all too often dies by the cybernetic monstrosity powered by living coral." -Doc Buzzsaw Pineapple 🍍 Pizza 🍕 is my thumbs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 It will be interesting if this chracter actually has some connection to Capt Marvel lore. As it may be based on some of this stuff. In the comic there is no connection beyond her being a CM fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techwright Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Haijinx said: It will be interesting if this chracter actually has some connection to Capt Marvel lore. As it may be based on some of this stuff. In the comic there is no connection beyond her being a CM fan. It is my understanding that she will join Capt. Marvel in the upcoming movie. As will Photon. I've never read the comics with Ms Marvel in them. My only knowledge of the character comes from her several animated appearances, including in the Avengers video game. Within that limitation, I've never been a fan of the character. She falls within what I term the "Yakky Duck character". That is, a character deliberately added by the creators to run their mouth incessantly, usually with unnecessary dialog, to the point of being obnoxious. ("Yakky Duck" being a reference to "Yakky Doodle" the Hanna-Barbera poster-child example of the character type.) To be fair, a bit of this got ironed out in the Avengers video game, where I found it a tad more palatable. Still not a fan. That said, I watched the trailer and was confused out by the addition of a mcguffin of power and a radically different power sent. It came across like they don't trust their character as it stood to be interesting and had to dump a lot of bling in to fancy her up. If, however, as the story advance, the mcguffin of power proves to be something in a broader storyline sense, like the Tesseract proving to be actually a Power Stone, something that Kamala will eventually set aside or lose, and focus on her own ability, then I'd just label the trailer as confusing, and not degrading to the character. As to her similarity to Mr. Fantastic, I've always felt how she was presented had a fundamental difference. Ms Marvel's "embiggen" power not only stretches, there's a mass alteration. So she's just not reaching out to punch a villain, she's stretching out with a fist like a wrecking ball to smash him. Last I knew, and its been years since I read Fantastic Four comics, Reed Richards could stretch, and apparently had some off-the-scale tensile strength, but not a mass shifting nature. If the MCU can support several super soldiers, similar-but-slightly-different Ant-Man and Wasp, and two Hawkeyes, I see no reason to change Ms Marvel just because Reed Richards is similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The comic, at least the early run, was not really anything other than a coming of age tale for a pakistani-american muslim teenage girl who finds out she has super powers. As such you got a peek into a diferent ethnic sub-culture and how its different than the now comic book standard that started with Spider Man. 23 pages a month keeps everything basically superficial. Sure there are a lot of monologs and thought bubbles, but thats every solo comic book character really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starro Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 There have been many Ms Marvels and Captain Marvels over the years.... "She who lives by the cybernetic monstrosity powered by living coral, all too often dies by the cybernetic monstrosity powered by living coral." -Doc Buzzsaw Pineapple 🍍 Pizza 🍕 is my thumbs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High_Beam Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I tried. I wanted to like the show because I liked some of the stories I perused in the comics and in the ways she sort of fourth wall broke without actually fourth wall breaking (ala Deadpool). Her fandom was our fandom yet wasn't winking to us directly. The show, tried to put that in but just got overwhelmed by trying to cram so much other stuff in. That stuff, ranging from the aspect of her heritage to how she dealt with her powers, while necessary, needed to be shepherded better like the way Wandavision slow-burned in Episodes 1 and 2 until the deep crazy set in. The stories were clunky and the characters often plagued by tropes and it just fell flat. This is the real problem with a lot of the Marvel TV shows. Agents of Shield was all over the some good and some bad and most of it because they needed mutants without calling them mutants because Disney hadn't bought Fox media yet. Peggy Carter couldn't sustain itself outside of the static warp bubble of the period piece. Don't even start with the Inhumans. Hawkeye was just a long-winded vehicle to introduce a new character that nobody will likely care about considering nobody really cares about Hawkeye. Wandavision was good because it was quirky, not preachy and teased something more. Same goes for Loki though the acting of Hiddleston really strengthened the soft plot points. Then you have the Netflix shows, Luke Cage, Daredevil and Punisher were all solid A+ shows, while Jones was a B+ and Iron Fist was a D+ (Bad story and lame character, I honestly don't care about the other complaints). The Defenders was okay (C) and had to happen because the others built to it. But they all worked because they were all in a niche zone that not many fill; the gritty street hero (I use the term somewhat loosely with Frank Castle). Cage was glorious, a damn shame it didn't get another season (fingers crossed). Daredevil honestly ran its course, the well is relatively shallow with regards to Murdock, same for Jones. And honestly, nobody gives 1 nor less two craps about Iron Fist. And the Punisher, well he's the Punisher and he is the same problematic issue that Disney has to deal with like they do Deadpool, fans want them, a lot of money paying fans want them but they want them like they got them and Disney, well Disney is wholesome family entertainment (cough, cough). Here's hoping She-Hulk will be better. Girls of Nukem High - Excelsior - Tempus Fabulous, Flattery, Jennifer Chilly, Betty Beatdown, Totally Cali, Two Gun Trixie Babes of War - Excelsior - Di Di Guns, Runeslinger, Munitions Mistress, Tideway, Hard Melody, Blue Aria Several alts and of course my original from live on Freedom, High Beam Prime (someone else has her non OG name) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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