VoidSpawn2 Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 Contrary to the common Zeitgeist, the Sentinel is a most excellent AT. While many believe it brings little to a team that other ATs can't provide more effectively, it is a robust and hard to kill AT, and it is perhaps one of the strongest ATs for solo or normal team play. With even an average build, the Sentinel is a Tank Mage, able both to blast and to withstand great physical damage. With a strong build, it is possible to perform unusual feats of strength, such as soloing the Imperious Task Force (ITF). After bringing a couple of Sentinels to 50, I still hadn't yet found a satisfactory "Tank Mage" build. So I decided to start scoping out the Veteran Sentinels I'd occasionally see around, check out their power selection and the effects of their IOs, and crunch some easy numbers. Fire/Inv stood out, with the most players at the highest vet levels from among the rest of the possible Sentinel combinations that I saw being played live. So I created a build that I thought would finally be the Tank Mage I'd been seeking: Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Void2222: Level 50 Magic SentinelPrimary Power Set: Fire BlastSecondary Power Set: InvulnerabilityPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Dark Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Fire Blast -- SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg(A), SprSntWar-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprSntWar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprSntWar-Rchg/+Absorb(31)Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(3), UnbGrd-Max HP%(5), GldArm-3defTpProc(5), ImpArm-ResPsi(7)Level 2: Resist Physical Damage -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9)Level 4: Maneuvers -- HO:Cyto(A)Level 6: Durability -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A), PrfShf-End%(11), ImpSki-Status(11), ImpArm-ResPsi(13)Level 8: Fire Ball -- SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprOppStr-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprOppStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprOppStr-Rchg/+Opportunity(34)Level 10: Blaze -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(37), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(39), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(50)Level 12: Aim -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 14: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(15), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(15)Level 16: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(19), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), ImpArm-ResPsi(36)Level 18: Blazing Blast -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(39), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Apc-Acc/Rchg(40), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Apc-Dam%(48)Level 20: Environmental Resistance -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(34), ImpArm-ResPsi(34)Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23)Level 24: Super Speed -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 26: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 28: Invincible -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29)Level 30: Combat Jumping -- Rct-ResDam%(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)Level 32: Inferno -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(42), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Obl-%Dam(50)Level 35: Tough Hide -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(36)Level 38: Netherworld Tentacles -- Ann-ResDeb%(A)Level 41: Engulfing Darkness -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)Level 44: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)Level 47: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(48)Level 49: Darkest Night -- HO:Enzym(A)Level 1: Opportunity Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A)Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13), Pnc-Heal/+End(19), Prv-Absorb%(37)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(25), PwrTrns-+Heal(25)Level 24: Speed Phase Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface Level 50: Longbow Core Superior Ally Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Elusive Mind Level 50: Eye of the Magus Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 50: Geas of the Kind Ones Level 50: Vanguard Medal Level 50: The Atlas Medallion Level 50: Task Force Commander Level 50: Portal Jockey Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1596;749;1498;HEX;| |78DA5593C94F53511487EFEB7B6528656E99DA022D530BED2B25316E91A146A1091| |1C3C660F3682FE569536A0B44FE00176EDDB0718A2B71485C1B776E1D778E6B57A8| |89321887E7E93BE7DAEB4BE0EB3DE79E737EF79C7B539767DCABABC949A6344DE78| |D7239BDC80B1B6681E79D29236766187C754BEB667602BE5A58F4087FFA8C51C8F1| 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|9671A171FC384053D98588FD549D15A3E5D798F8ACCADAB2D8BC567DCA70D7B1250| |B9AB08151F1E100F75CD577CB94181A3FFF670CA3F18B4B7EE1A7F172B897506D5B| |10D50EEE21BF4A9B1DCA3514D0458FB98B1EF7D351B83C24C8EAF6808D22AC27EDB| |0109E36AFE4791C923C3BF236FB3BEF922C67E5C5824BCAB2247B32F26245DE66C8| |8B6579312757FE0BE12DFA73| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| On a whim, and with little planning, I decided to try a run through the ITF at 0/8. Just a little test, and nothing more (like an @Werner or @Bill Z Bubba master run). Something I'd already put a few of my tanks through a few months back, and something with which I was relatively familiar as a gauge of nascent Incarnate strength. Void2222 Fire Blast/Invulnerability Sentinel Data Points Tier 3 Alpha Musculature Tier 3 Ion Core Judgement Tier 3 Diamagnetic Core Interface 45% Melee and S/L Defense 75% S/L Resistance Perma Dull Pain for max Sentinel HP of 2088 50% DDR Dark Mastery for Darkest Night, one of the best defensive powers available Synopsis of ITF: There were two instances of DDR crashing, which had to be mitigated via movement. Several Inspirations were used, as I wasn't using higher settings for running the Task Force. No email backup was used. No other characters or external PTW forces were used, save for the Kinetic Dampener, which was helpful during combat with energy-using mobs. The strategy used the following tactics: Bull-rush the targets, sink Darkest Night on the biggest bad guy, focus-fire healers down first, then focus-fire the Darkest Night baddie, with the AOEs in the attack cycles whittling down the other baddies by attrition. This worked even on the AV fights. Sometimes they actively fled and aggroed more mobs, so I dealt with them, too, via AoE attrition. I wasn't going for any speed records, or doing a solo "Master of..." I'm simply not that good. Yet. Still, it was quite a bit of fun, and it demonstrated to me what a true Tank Mage Sentinel is capable of. Hint: They're capable of quite a lot, especially if you are playing solo. Big Hat Tip to the creators of this AT. Once you find one that suits you, it's really fun to play. -void 1 2
VoidSpawn2 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Posted March 16, 2022 Thanks for sharing your build. It's strong. Looks like it would demolish a fire farm. Also, quite amusing to see your music conversation turn up in a screenie like that. -void 1
Linea Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 Congratulations. While I'm not quite as enthusiastic about sentinels, they do fill a role rather nicely. I've soloed a +4x8 ITF with all of mine, as well. 2 AE 801 (link) is a variety of missions for fun and challenge, and is designed for a team of 5+ Incarnates. Just search '801' in AE. 801 Difficulty Varies: 801.0 Easy, ..., 801.2 Standard*, ..., 801.5 Moderate**, ..., 801.6 Hard***, ..., 801.7 Four Star****, ... 801.F Death. I may be AFK IRL, But CoH is my Forever Home.
VoidSpawn2 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Posted March 16, 2022 Recalling your posted tactics for the harder runs, including the 801 series, I just went out and obtained this [Wedding Band], @Linea. I'm going to start adding it, and few other tricks, to my "10/10" rated characters.
Bill Z Bubba Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 My fire/bio sent managed it at max diff, no faceplants. Can't recall if it was also no temps/insps. Hover blasting kept me alive but the main problem was low DPS on top of AVs running all over the damn map. Pretty sure the time was around 3.5 hours. For comparison, my shield/nrg tank does it in 1.5. 1
oldskool Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Krimson said: Remember, the Sentinel naysayers aren't actually in game playing them. There's a difference between theory crafting and actually using the thing. Not to mention the cherry picking of favorable outcomes, hypothetical maximums of perfect execution, and other hyperbolic nonsense*. *Yes, I am new to the Internet. 1 1 1
Underfyre Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 2 hours ago, oldskool said: Not to mention the cherry picking of favorable outcomes, hypothetical maximums of perfect execution, and other hyperbolic nonsense*. You mean like making a hyper specific build to down a Pylon as fast as possible, but is little good for actual gameplay, then using that as your argument about why one AT is better than others? 1 Sentinel DPS Spreadsheet Sentinel Builds, fifth post down
oldskool Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 10 hours ago, underfyre said: You mean like making a hyper specific build to down a Pylon as fast as possible, but is little good for actual gameplay, then using that as your argument about why one AT is better than others? "iTs EvIdEnCe! tHe NuMb3Rs dOn'T LiE!"
Bill Z Bubba Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, oldskool said: "iTs EvIdEnCe! tHe NuMb3Rs dOn'T LiE!" Numbers don't lie. Some people lie about the numbers while some others don't understand them. 1
Brutal Justice Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Numbers don't lie. Some people lie about the numbers while some others don't understand them. Some just straight ignore them. 2 Guardian survivor
Hyperstrike Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 My DP/Inv Sentinel is a BEAST. Loads of fun. Is it the MOST invulnerable? Is it the MOST DPS'y? I answer this questions thus. If I'm having fun, WHY DO I CARE? 6 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
Bill Z Bubba Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 Got a hundred somethin vet lvls on my fire/bio sent "me" character. Gotta be somethin good there. 2
oldskool Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Some people lie about the numbers while some others don't understand them. ^ For when the joke the previous two posts this references doesn't land and needs to be spelled out in a hand holding manner.
Bill Z Bubba Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, oldskool said: ^ For when the joke the previous two posts this references doesn't land and needs to be spelled out in a hand holding manner. Oh c'mon.. it's the internet. Have you met any people? It's all got to be laid out in its entirety with footnotes and citations. 3
Doomguide2005 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Oh c'mon.. it's the internet. Have you met any people? It's all got to be laid out in its entirety with footnotes and citations. And video ...
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