Lexinian Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 I've noticed that while there are plenty of people that run 54 x8 PI mission teams on a loop, as well as obviously AE, I don't seem to see hardly any Dark Astoria mission teams. Why is this? Wouldn't the repeatable Dark Astoria missions be best for farming purposes because you get to benefit from being at +3 instead of +1? It seems to me that the extra clearing speed would make DA missions preferable to PI radio missions. Is there something I'm missing? I know people farm the Burdens of the Past chapter for Incarnate salvage, that's not the kind of farming I'm talking about, I mean farming for influence/invention salvage/recipes etc. 1 1
Gulbasaur Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 At some point between the end of Live and the start of Homecoming, many rewards were made more generous. Incarnate stuff, particularly, was made much easier to access and because of this there is less of an incentive to run incarnate content just for the rewards, compared to the ease of running +4x8 council missions ad nauseam in PI. In addition to this, DA mobs are often harder to just brainlessly wipe though. In terms of reward for time spent, PI wins. In addition to this, there's just a PI farming culture. Not everyone does it - Founders Falls and Talos both have mission farms that pop up on the LFG and I used to run a lot of tip missions out of Atlas because one overpowered player can carry a team of 8 lowbies very easy. Personally, I would like to see a peeling back of some of the easy rewards, capes and auras for free, and things like the Cavern of Transcendence trial being soloable as it makes it all feel inconsequential. tldr: PI is low effort, decent rewards. DA is moderate effort, better rewards, but the path of least resistance takes you to PI. Doctor Fortune Soulwright Mother Blight Brightwarden Storm Lantern King Solar Corona Borealis Blood Fortunado Dark/Dark Corruptor Rad/Rad Brute Gravity/Time Controller Storm/Water Defender Peacebringer Dark/Dark Tanker The Good Missions Guide: A Heroic Levelling Journey through Story Arcs Blueside Guide Easy IO Cheat Sheet The Mean Missions Guide: A Villainous Levelling Journey through Story Arcs Redside Guide Fortunatas are the Bestunatas
arcane Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 People do DA missions and street sweeps all the time, yes
TheZag Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) Farming DA missions puts you against much tougher enemies then you find in PI. If you arent built for it then they can shred your defense or accuracy. Farming speed tends to be slower even when including the extra +2 from incarnate shifts. Farming also tends to focus on fire or smashing and lethal and there is alot of cold and negative energy in DA, so thats another hurdle as well. Edited June 4, 2022 by TheZag
KaizenSoze Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 A while ago I pointed out that these missions were fun. There are few of us that will run them for an hour or so. Now and then. Night Pixie on Excelsior Introduction to Arachnos Widows - Night/Blood/Fortunata
Bill Z Bubba Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 3 hours ago, TheZag said: Farming DA missions puts you against much tougher enemies then you find in PI. If you arent built for it then they can shred your defense or accuracy. Farming speed tends to be slower even when including the extra +2 from incarnate shifts. Farming also tends to focus on fire or smashing and lethal and there is alot of cold and negative energy in DA, so thats another hurdle as well. Much tougher enemies is arguable since they're only +1 instead of the +3s you face in PI.
On-Fire Dude Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 I've only done it with other players a couple of times, but I regularly speed through the "Burden" mission for the Empyrians.
Agorazium Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 Oh I love the DA arcs, I run them on all my 50’s…but come to think of it I haven’t seen any teams recruiting while leveling my current alts. Some of the enemy groups are pretty gnarly if you’re bringing lowbies along with you.
Clave Dark 5 Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 I've joined so many 50s teams in PI that I routinely skip them anymore. Always join a DA team when I see one, but they don't come up too often, no. It is pretty easy to run a "any levels welcome!" team in PI, but DA can eat the wrong low level toons alive, multiple times I speak from experience ha ha). Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝
Carnifax Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Much tougher enemies is arguable since they're only +1 instead of the +3s you face in PI. Possibly more annoying though. The snakey-ladies have a lot of visual spam, Knives have caltrops (I still find the knives pretty easy but they can pop a squishy with their Hail of Bullets), Tsoo and the BP have annoyances like Hurricane and nasty debuffs. I think Claves point about "Any level can join" is appropriate too. I'd feel bad if I dragged a level 15 into DA missions. 1 My level 50 builds [Bullitt Time : DP/Kin Corruptor] [Carnifax : Ill/Dark Controller] [Kerriae : Plant/Storm Controller] [Echinoderm : Bio/Spines Tank] [Iron Brew : Mace/Rad Brute] [Snookered : Staff/NRG Brute] [iScream : Ice/Ice Scrapper] [Binman : Savage/Shield Stalker] [Modul-8 : Time/Sonic Defender] [Concussion Blast : Fire/NRG Domi] [Orblivion : Dark/Martial Domi] [Mombie : Necro/Nature MM] [Tempore : Water/Time Blaster] [Thermodynamic Flux : Ice/Fire Blaster] [Carni's Online CombatLog Parser Alpha]
KaizenSoze Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Clave Dark 5 said: I've joined so many 50s teams in PI that I routinely skip them anymore. Always join a DA team when I see one, but they don't come up too often, no. It is pretty easy to run a "any levels welcome!" team in PI, but DA can eat the wrong low level toons alive, multiple times I speak from experience ha ha). If you have 3-4 53s on the team you can steamroll with the rest of the team being low level. Still though the amount of AOEs DA mobs throw around will regularly drop lowbies in 2-3 seconds if they aren't careful. 2 Night Pixie on Excelsior Introduction to Arachnos Widows - Night/Blood/Fortunata
Shred Monkey Posted June 5, 2022 Posted June 5, 2022 I think people don't farm DA because it IS post 50. I think most PI teams are pre50 players getting to 50, ASAP. You are right, however that there is an opportunity there that people don't use often. Active on Excelsior: Prismatic Monkey - Seismic / Martial Blaster, Shadow Dragon Monkey - Staff / Dark Brute, Murder Robot Monkey - Arachnos Night Widow
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