Mir2 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 Quote The Interface Slot Abilities grant a chance of effect to most of your damaging attacks. What is a damaging attack? (I'm specifically considering my Ill/Kin Troller when I ask most questions) Is Phantasm a damaging attack? Is Phantom Army a damaging attack? Is Spectral Terror with "Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance for Damage" a damaging attack when it procs? Is Fulcrum Shift? (It does no damage, but requires a "to hit"; never sure what other people intend when they write things) Thanks
Greycat Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) As it's worded, I'd have to answer: 1. No, it's a pet. 2. Is also a pet. 3. No, the proc isn't the power damaging, it's the set doing a chance for damage. 4. No, or at least it shouldn't be. As you mention, it does no damage - never mentions anything about to hit. Those are, of course, how I'm reading it. Though you can always check on the test server, it should show up in the combat logs. For an ill/kin, I'd think you'd mostly have it triggering on Spectral Wounds and the hold, plus whatever pool attacks you might have. Again, going by that wording. Edited November 25, 2023 by Greycat Kheldian Lore and Backstory Guide 2.0: HC edition Out to EAT : A look at Epic ATs - what is, could have been, and never was Want 20 merits? Got a couple of minutes? Mini guide to the Combat Attributes window
Psyonico Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I'm actually fairly certain interface does proc on pet attacks. I'll jump on one of my illusion controllers in a bit and test it out. What this team needs is more Defenders
Mir2 Posted November 25, 2023 Author Posted November 25, 2023 Thanks for the feedback thus far. i always forget about the test server and combat log. The latter usually displays so much as to be worthless. But alone on a test server should help.
Mir2 Posted November 25, 2023 Author Posted November 25, 2023 31 minutes ago, Psyonico said: I'm actually fairly certain interface does proc on pet attacks. I'll jump on one of my illusion controllers in a bit and test it out. I saw someone mention it working on MM Thug powers, but I’ve always felt MM pets (even Gang War) to be more like attack powers than pets.
srmalloy Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 IIRC, if you can slot damage enhancements in the power, or it's one of the small number of powers that have unenhanceable damage in the power description, it's a 'damaging power'.
Luminara Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 Yes, yes, no, no. The conditional refers to powers which natively deal damage with no enhancements slotted. That includes pets, pseudo-pets and henches. Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right.
Psyonico Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 ok, just confirmed, on both Phantom Army and Phantasm, interface will in fact proc. What this team needs is more Defenders
Mir2 Posted November 25, 2023 Author Posted November 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, Luminara said: Yes, yes, no, no. The conditional refers to powers which natively deal damage with no enhancements slotted. That includes pets, pseudo-pets and henches. 8 minutes ago, Psyonico said: ok, just confirmed, on both Phantom Army and Phantasm, interface will in fact proc. Thank you both. Makes sense.
Snarky Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, Luminara said: Yes, yes, no, no. The conditional refers to powers which natively deal damage with no enhancements slotted. That includes pets, pseudo-pets and henches. Thanks for the info. I would have assumed pets were a no. Pseudo pets are odd but would almost have to be coded for because of Ice and such. Otherwise Ice Blasters would be even more F-ed than they were to begin with
wjrasmussen Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Mir2 said: I saw someone mention it working on MM Thug powers, but I’ve always felt MM pets (even Gang War) to be more like attack powers than pets. Are you saying that because you feel that way you should get the benefit as if it were? I went to Ouroboros all i got was this lousy secret! COH bomp bomp:
Mir2 Posted November 26, 2023 Author Posted November 26, 2023 7 hours ago, wjrasmussen said: Are you saying that because you feel that way you should get the benefit as if it were? No. Just pointing out some possible interaction. Trying to figure out how things work. Nothing more.
Scarlet Shocker Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 7:49 PM, Snarky said: Thanks for the info. I would have assumed pets were a no. Pseudo pets are odd but would almost have to be coded for because of Ice and such. Otherwise Ice Blasters would be even more F-ed than they were to begin with I'd have untuited the same, but then again, if you play a pet heavy character and don't get a benefit from that, then it's a bit gimped. So in-depth analysis suggests pets should be part of its conditional trigger as indeed they seem to be. Otherwise you'd reduced by 5 attacks on your primary as an MM 1 There's a fine line between a numerator and a denominator but only a fraction of people understand that.
Snarky Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Scarlet Shocker said: I'd have untuited the same, but then again, if you play a pet heavy character and don't get a benefit from that, then it's a bit gimped. So in-depth analysis suggests pets should be part of its conditional trigger as indeed they seem to be. Otherwise you'd reduced by 5 attacks on your primary as an MM People play MMs? 😳
Scarlet Shocker Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Snarky said: People play MMs? 😳 Allegedly! 1 There's a fine line between a numerator and a denominator but only a fraction of people understand that.
Riverdusk Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 I'm actually surprised by how many didn't seem to know pet attacks benefited. Don't really even need to dig into combat logs as the most common interface choices have pretty obvious graphic effects on enemies when they trigger. But I guess you have to actually play a pet class (and probably solo at that), to notice and know for sure it is the pet doing it.
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