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For a long time there has been a thread in the Scrapper sub forum that was dedicated to pylon and trapdoor times. However due to that thread being in the Scrapper forums its seen other ATs under represented and I personally had gripes about the formatting and standards for the data. I of course do not blame the creator, far from it, carrying the torch of a legacy standard for so long has certainly been a great service to the community. However I decided to throw together my own to encourage optimization and pushing the limits of CoX builds.

Which you can see here!

 

Need help filtering what you want in that mess? I made some filters just for you, In the spoiler below is how to access them. If you think of any you think would be useful, reply to this thread and let me know!

 

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So! What do you need to get your name on the board!? Simple, submit a time and build here in the forums and I will update the sheet weekly as I am able. Bonus points if you can provide a video of your run, but I understand that may be impractical for some. Multiple submissions are permitted. I will add a "Thanks!" reaction once it has been added to the sheet. So here are the rules.

 

Divisions

 

All entries are broken up into seven divisions in order to help differentiate various rule sets. They are organized loosely in order of descending 'power' with builds that are using nothing outside of their inherent kit being in the division six while builds with all the stops pulled out are in division zero. Below each Division is a spoiler tag with a basic explanation of the purpose and goal of the data category.

 

  • Division 0: Anything goes except QA test powers.
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  • Division 1: Any temp that can be easily stockpiled and ran as part of normal play is legal, lores and inspirations are banned.
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  • Division 2: Same as Division 1 but pet temp powers like Signature Summons are banned.
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  • Division 3: Legacy pylon rules, all temps that effect damage output are banned. Judgment is banned.
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  • Division 4: Any power not available in the most restrictive endgame content (currently 4 star hardmode) is banned.
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  • Division 5: No temps or incarnates that provide anything but defense, resistance and hp, this includes no endurance tools
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  • Division 6: All powers obtained from sources other than leveling up are banned.
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Pylon/Dummy Times

  • Solo kill a Vanguard Training Pylon in the RWZ or the dummy summoned by the Mobile Dummy Combatant accolade power from Dr. Aeon (The new RWZ overhaul has added these pylons next to the base)
  • You may not have outside help that in any way effects your damage output with the exception of endurance. No accuracy, recharge or damage buffs. (This includes passive buffs such as Stalker crit or Kheldian inherits)
  • No banned powers may be used.
  • You must specify if your Hybrid is used actively (clicked)
  • You must specify how many runs if submitting an average.
  • You MUST provide a mids build (file or datachunk preferred) to have your record submitted, no build secrets here. If you cannot use mids, you may submit the contents of a /buildsavefile
  • Time starts at the first point of damage dealt, and ends when the pylon/dummy is destroyed.
  • Bonus points for a video.
  • Pet users if possible please provide a combat log from Carnifax or Cyclops so I may calculate the difference in pet performance that purple patch would apply against an AV. Your time will be listed as is regardless, but a secondary time showing effect vs a true AV will also be included if a combat log is provided.
  • Runs on the test server are valid provided they do not make use of any changes currently being tested, or the changes used are promoted to live. Should
  • Please declare whether the run is sustainable or not. A run is consisted sustained if it can be maintained for a full two minutes.
     


Office Mission Times

  • Solo clear Galaxy Brain's Office Mission Simulator (Arc ID: 57885, Test Server Arc ID: 23878)
  • Difficulty must be +0x8, if people submit multiple +4x8s I'll add a sheet for it.
  • You may not have any other characters on the map.
  • No banned powers may be used.
  • You must specify if your Hybrid is used actively (clicked)
  • You must specify how many runs if submitting an average.
  • You MUST provide a mids build to have your record submitted, no build secrets here. If you cannot use mids, you may submit the contents of a /buildsavefile
  • Time starts when you finish loading into the mission and ends when the missions completes and you are allowed to exit.
  • Bonus points for a video.
  • Runs on the test server are valid provided they do not make use of any changes currently being tested, or the changes used are promoted to live.

 

 

Banned Powers

 

Expand the division you are interested in. There lists are not exhaustive and will be expanded as necessary. If you are ever in doubt, don't be afraid to ask here or to DM me.

 

Division 0

 

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While not required, use of the following template is greatly appreciated. Please limit one submission per template use.
Submission Template:
Run Type: (required)

Division: (required)
Archetype: (required)
Primary Powerset: (required)
Secondary Powerset: (required)
Time in seconds: (required)

Burst: (whether the run is burst or sustained dps, burst is any run using powers with a cooldown above 120s that is not perma)
Hybrid: (required, type and if clicked)
Build is usable for General Purpose: (required, yes or no, based on the judgment of the submitter)
Number of Runs Averaged Together: (If greater than one)
Version: (If older than date of submission, if unknown, specify. Be sure to specify test server builds.)
Video Link: (if available)
Notes: (Any added details you'd like to add, please include any temp powers violating the above rules here)
Build: (required)

 

 

Short List Leaderboard

Bellow are the current top times by AT
See the full list here!

Pylon/Dummy
Best in show
BRADICAL (Mastermind): 00:10 / 3962.469dps

 

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Office Mission Sim
Best in show
ScarySai (Crab Spider): 03:11

 

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Bounties!
Periodically I may place bounties for certain achievements, these will take the form of in game rewards. Active and Claimed bounties will be listed below. Anyone else may place bounties as well and I will facilitate them as best able.

Active:

 

Best Division 5 Open Pylon Time November 2024

Reward: 2 Billion Influence 

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Clam Leader

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Posting an update on this

 

Most recent time was 58 seconds as of about 5 minutes ago.

 

 

Worth noting I have the 9% damage buff from the end of Dream Doctors story arc, I tried to remove it but I'm not able and I can't really wait it out since its 120 hours of in game time and I'm only able to spend 3 to 4 hours in game at a time. If you remove that I would still be at 59 seconds.

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Laucianna

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  On 1/10/2024 at 4:32 AM, Clam Leader said:

Posting an update on this

 

Most recent time was 58 seconds as of about 5 minutes ago.

 

 

Worth noting I have the 9% damage buff from the end of Dream Doctors story arc, I tried to remove it but I'm not able and I can't really wait it out since its 120 hours of in game time and I'm only able to spend 3 to 4 hours in game at a time. If you remove that I would still be at 59 seconds.

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Is this the same build as before hun?

 

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Koopak

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Gonna kick off the office mission sheet finally with my own submission, this is just a first attempt using my fort build. ( Someone please beat it )

Run Type: Office Mission
Archetype: Fortunata
Primary Powerset: Fortunata Training
Secondary Powerset: Fortunata Teamwork
Time in seconds: 376 ( 6:16 )
Hybrid: Yes
Number of Runs: 1
Version: I27p6
Video Link: N/A
Notes: Runners were an issue due to lack of burst AoE to cleave them down before AI trys to run
Build: Attached and also added the data chunk below. (Either is acceptable as is the forum export method)

 

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arcane

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I can post some of the times I’ve written down later if you want to add them to your spreadsheet.

 

EDIT: I don’t have Mids builds nor do I know what issue/page the runs were done under though. They would be on the page or two before 4* ITF came out, since that’s when I started building with Barrier instead of Ageless, among other changes.

 

EDIT 2: Also I think the runs were mostly if not all done with Amplifiers on. Gah I should’ve taken better notes.

 

I’ll search the other Pylon thread for my posts which should fill in the gaps.

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  On 1/11/2024 at 4:15 PM, arcane said:

I can post some of the times I’ve written down later if you want to add them to your spreadsheet.

 

EDIT: I don’t have Mids builds nor do I know what issue/page the runs were done under though. They would be on the page or two before 4* ITF came out, since that’s when I started building with Barrier instead of Ageless, among other changes.

 

EDIT 2: Also I think the runs were mostly if not all done with Amplifiers on. Gah I should’ve taken better notes.

 

I’ll search the other Pylon thread for my posts which should fill in the gaps.

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I need to clarify the rule set more, im partial to allowing easily obtained and functionally permeable temp powers because the ban on them was more about establishing baselines or otherwise making the tests fair back on live. HCing is a different beast. If you cant nail down the time or version thats fine, we can do unknown.

The build however is 100% needed as thats the primary purpose of this, sharing builds and techniques to explore the limits of the system.

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I need to clarify the rule set more, im partial to allowing easily obtained and functionally permeable temp powers because the ban on them was more about establishing baselines or otherwise making the tests fair back on live. HCing is a different beast. If you cant nail down the time or version thats fine, we can do unknown.

The build however is 100% needed as thats the primary purpose of this, sharing builds and techniques to explore the limits of the system.

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Oh well, no builds here. Mac user so no Mids. And the spreadsheets I used to set them up are long gone.

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Oh well, no builds here. Mac user so no Mids. And the spreadsheets I used to set them up are long gone.

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Same boat here, but I would assume a /buildsavefile arcanebuild.txt would do the trick.

EnjoyTheJourney

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Below are results for both a pylon run and an office mission run, another kind of run, and a few ideas to consider are also offered ... 
 

Run types: pylon defeat, office mission run, ITF challenge

Archetype: dominator

Primary powerset: plant

Secondary powerset: fiery assault
Mastery / Patron: fire mastery

Time in seconds: 241 (4:01, 287 DPS), 373 (6:13), failed first ITF challenge run, then 23:58

Hybrid: Melee core hybrid 

Other incarnates: Cardiac core alpha, Barrier core destiny, Degen core interface, Pyronic core judgment used only for ITF challenge, no use of lore for any run
 - Barrier and hybrid used freely for pylon defeat and ITF challenge, barrier used once at the start for the office mission, hybrid never activated for office run, passive effects only


Notes: No use of inspirations, temp powers, clicky accolades, or amplifiers for any runs. Also, no way this build was operating at its ceiling in my hands. Made lots of mistakes picking the order of attacks to use for pylon defeat, was hovering through the office mission and taking my time lining up the cone for seeds. First time running the office mission, as well. Also, one runner with a sliver of life that I didn't notice was a floor down from the final office mission floor and about 25 seconds was added to the time to find and defeat him. The ITF challenge is something I've done fairly often, and so the second run wasn't quite as filled with errors.

The office mission is a breath of fresh air after many Trapdoor runs. It's just more fun to run. One opinion only, of course, FWIW. 

The ITF challenge was failed the first time after I put my dominator too close to the ground in a big crowd of Cimerorans and a defeat ensued shortly after that. That was a bit of a brain fart. The second run went better. The first mission took about 14 minutes, which is pretty slow for the first mission. Hovering makes setting the camera right challenging in cave sections that have low ceilings, which contributed to making mission 1 slower. Repeated use of seeds wore down crowds, though. In contrast, the second mission had the best map (one long cave with no backtracking needed). Also, it was possible to use seeds, creepers, and spirit tree to keep aggro manageable and to focus fire down each shadow cyst along the way to the end of the mission. 

Build: Attached file

Ideas for timing and reporting ...

When to start timing: Timing started when casting seeds for the office mission. Fly trap was already out at the start of the pylon run and the office mission since having the T9 pet out is pretty common at the start of a mission for dominators and controllers (obviously MMs as well). Creepers were not out when starting any of the runs, as that seems like an "in combat" cast. Perhaps the "pet" details aren't really needed for reporting purposes. But, probably the use of controls should be a good time to start timing the office mission, along with when damage is done to mobs, especially for seeds or other confusion powers because of how they affect mob AI.  

What to report: The mastery chosen can have a noticeable effect on clear times, particular for dominators. Ice mastery would have sped up the pylon run and the office run, but might have made it a bit harder to meet the "no defeats" condition for the ITF challenge, for example. It's just a request for one extra bit of information for those scanning posts and trying to compare the same primary and secondary combinations. Also, it could be useful (and standard) to have incarnates indicated in the build supplied with the post. The incarnate choices made for this build might surprise some, for example, and it helps for understanding performance differences across runs. 

The ITF challenge can, perhaps, be viewed as an add-on optional run to report about for those who want to take on a harder challenge. There are a fair number of players I know (myself included) who sometimes solo the first two missions of the ITF at +4x8, bosses appear, no inspirations, no temp powers, no amplifiers, no clicky accolades, and no defeats allowed as a measuring stick for their builds. For most builds it is not an easy run. But, all ATs have completed Master of ITF runs solo and so the first two missions are doable for all ATs, for a fair cross-section of endgame builds. Also, if the mission objectives can be cleared while meeting the conditions in something less than a very long period of time then you've got a really solid build on your hands, capable of taking on a lot of content. FWIW, I started timing the ITF challenge as my dominator started moving inside the first mission doorway. 

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Run Type: Office
Archetype: Tank
Primary Powerset: Fire
Secondary Powerset: Dark
Time in seconds: 245
Hybrid: Not Active
Number of Runs: 1 Run
Video Link: 


Notes: First run, could be faster with changes to pull patterns and build revisions. This is the first revision of the build and there are a few tweaks that I need to make. 
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  On 1/20/2024 at 12:06 AM, Kerm said:

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It seems the forum format is not importing into mids correctly, i will manually reproduce if necessary but would it be possible for you to provide the datachunk?

Edit - I have manually imported the build and added the datachunk to the sheet

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Run Type: Office Map
Archetype: Tanker
Primary Powerset: Invulnerability
Secondary Powerset: Fire
Time in seconds: 309
Hybrid: Not Active(Melee)
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Notes: This build is much less farm oriented and made for team play. It has a ton of -res procs to help with team damage.

 

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  On 1/11/2024 at 5:21 PM, Doomrider said:

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84 seconds - Peacebringer. 
100 seconds... Peacebringer.

84 seconds was a one off. I did 9 more runs, and with a new build. Lowest was 93, but averaged out was a bout 100 seconds.
I don't have it in me to grind more at the moment, my timing feels real off at the moment. Might revisit later.

New Doom Peacebringer (Luminous Blast - Luminous Aura).mbd

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I included both times if that's okay

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Bounty Posted!

Prize: 2 billion influence

Task:
Post the best pylon/dummy time of any Dominator for the month of February.

Start Date/Time: 00:00 UTC, February 1st 2024 See in your time here!
End Date/Time: 00:00 UTC, March 1st 2024 See in your time here!
(In the links look in the non bold text with your location in it, if anyone has a better translation method, let me know.)
 

 

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