Water Corruptor Secondary!

[StriderIV]

Hey all!

 

Coming back home after taking a bit of a break. I’ve ran Water Blast once before, pairing it with Cold Domination.

 

I really enjoy it as a blast set and want to give it another go! I wanted to pick some minds and see if anyone had any secondaries they feel pairs nicely/has good synergy with Water Blast?

 

Water/Rad seems pretty popular. Great debuffs with it’s anchors that you can lay down and blast away.

 

Water/Kin seems like it’d be a good time. Water has nice AOE, and Kin might help shore up some of its weaker ST dmg.

 

Water/Time seems pretty synergistic. I wonder if it is slow overkill though!

 

Water/Elec Affinity…. Might be a bit TOO busy 😂

 

These are some that came to mind, but I’d love to hear what you like to pair with Water Blast!

[Snarky]

You are going to have to have a great concept or a really good build idea to stand above (or next to) cold domination on the Corr.  I just started an Ice/Dark.  Which is perfect for me, concept and playstyle wise.  But Cold Dom is more powerful.  Not even in doubt 

[StriderIV]

6 hours ago, Snarky said:

You are going to have to have a great concept or a really good build idea to stand above (or next to) cold domination on the Corr.  I just started an Ice/Dark.  Which is perfect for me, concept and playstyle wise.  But Cold Dom is more powerful.  Not even in doubt 

Haha that is true, Cold is top tier! Just thought why not give something new a whirl 🤷‍♂️ 

[Psyonico]

Electric is a fantastic set, but IMO is better on Defenders for the reason you said, it's just very busy.

 

Have you thought about sets that don't have a self heal since you have dehydrate?

 

Poison, Force Field, Trick Arrow, heck, even Sonic would go well with water.

[Jacke]

When recreating a long ago Ice/Poison Corruptor, I went with Poison/Water Defender.  It looks like a great combo.  I would imagine a Water/Poison Corruptor would work too.  Also all the other (de)buff powersets @Snarky and @Psyonico mentioned, which don't have heals and thus makes Water's Dehydrate a good substitute.  There's also Storm:

 

- Cold, Force Field, Poison, Storm, Sonic, Trick Arrow

 

And if you want to go with a (de)buff powerset with a heal, possibly dropping Dehydrate, there's these that aren't too busy (I think):

 

- Dark, Nature, Pain, Rad, Thermal, Time

 

Each (de)buff set has their own nuances.  Skim them all in the HC Wiki and MRB and decide which one you think fits the toon best.

[Snarky]

Corruptor Secondary Dark has a team heal centered on you that debuffs the enemy and is available at level 1.  The thing is magic. It fits a Theft of Essence PROC so it can even feed you endurance (slottable at level 7…).  Thematically it fits for my Lich.  I love almost all the Dark secondary powers except Fluffy pet.  I hate pets.  The only reason Cold is a better secondary (in my opinion) is the huge AoE debuff.  Better strategy for a league.  But for solo or small team i think (for me) Dark is better tactically and thematically 

[Psyonico]

Not liking pets is one thing, @Snarky, but liking Black Hole?

[Carnifax]

1 hour ago, Psyonico said:

Electric is a fantastic set, but IMO is better on Defenders for the reason you said, it's just very busy.

 

Have you thought about sets that don't have a self heal since you have dehydrate?

 

Poison, Force Field, Trick Arrow, heck, even Sonic would go well with water.

Water / Trick Arrow would be a monster. 

 

Edit : remember Cold is getting normalized in the next Page, Sleet is being set to obey AT modifiers

Edited February 8 by Carnifax

[Psyonico]

1 minute ago, Carnifax said:

Water / Trick Arrow would be a monster. 

Did anyone know if Whirlpool scourges?  If not, I'm going to be rolling the defender version of this combo

[Snarky]

1 minute ago, Psyonico said:

Not liking pets is one thing, @Snarky, but liking Black Hole?

i take it.  it is very extremely rarely useful.  but when some idiot pulls a spawn when the team is already screwed?  priceless.  when you are in a LGTF and cannot get to the elevator, and dieing there is a no rez situation?   again, not an every mission occurence.  huge, "oh crap" button.  

[Carnifax]

4 minutes ago, Psyonico said:

Did anyone know if Whirlpool scourges?  If not, I'm going to be rolling the defender version of this combo

Everything scourges but Whirlpool is a rain so it scourges extra-well

[Psyonico]

4 minutes ago, Carnifax said:

Everything scourges but Whirlpool is a rain so it scourges extra-well

That is what I wanted to know...

Looks like I'm off to Mids

[Snarky]

5 minutes ago, Carnifax said:

Everything scourges but Whirlpool is a rain so it scourges extra-well

and this is why my Lich Corr is Ice/Dark.  Ice DoT rains are Scourge heaven

[Carnifax]

28 minutes ago, Psyonico said:

That is what I wanted to know...

Looks like I'm off to Mids

Damn you. I've spent 20 mins making a mids build too. Looks tasty.

 

But I already have 2 waters and 2 trick arrows. But it looks so fun. 

[StriderIV]

2 hours ago, Psyonico said:

Electric is a fantastic set, but IMO is better on Defenders for the reason you said, it's just very busy.

 

Have you thought about sets that don't have a self heal since you have dehydrate?

 

Poison, Force Field, Trick Arrow, heck, even Sonic would go well with water.

This makes sense. Water/Poison or Water/FF seem cool concept wise.

[StriderIV]

16 minutes ago, Carnifax said:

Damn you. I've spent 20 mins making a mids build too. Looks tasty.

 

But I already have 2 waters and 2 trick arrows. But it looks so fun. 

I really need to just figure out a concept for Water/Trick Arrow 😂

[Psyonico]

1 hour ago, Carnifax said:

Damn you. I've spent 20 mins making a mids build too. Looks tasty.

 

But I already have 2 waters and 2 trick arrows. But it looks so fun. 

I've got 8 or 9 TAs, what's one more?

[Onlyasandwich]

Welcome back @StriderIV! Concept is king as always.

 

Some support sets I would just prefer as a Defender instead.

 

What I feel would be really nice on a corruptor: TA, Dark, Cold, Kin, Rad, Storm

 

Thematically, Water/Storm is great of course. Storm appreciates the minor self-heal present in Water, as does cold and TA. That is the only notable synergy.

 

Anything will work fine!

[StarseedWarrior]

Go rad of kin to buff dps good synergy.

[Oubliette_Red]

On 2/8/2024 at 4:55 PM, StriderIV said:

I really need to just figure out a concept for Water/Trick Arrow 😂

 

My TA/Water Def... Soda Khan, with Orange, Blue, Red and Root Beer themed costumes and powers. I find him very fun to play but haven't seen many build in the forums for the combo.

 

Edited February 12 by Oubliette_Red

[Carnifax]

On 2/9/2024 at 12:25 AM, Psyonico said:

I've got 8 or 9 TAs, what's one more?

Damn you! 

 

So I'm ~level 20 now with Fish Kebab after doing a couple of builds and as expected really liking them. Haven't even got the really fun Trick Arrow powers yet. 

 

Cheapo / getting to 50 build (no purples or the like) and a maxxed out version. I'll probably end up somewhere between the two builds once done (although I may also have my traditional Emergency Endurance Rejig in the early 30s). 

 

Close-enough-to-caps that Flash Arrow should floor their ToHit chances, lots of procs in various powers. All the TA tricks (even Glue Arrow which I usually skip).

 

Corruptor - Water - Trick Arrow_cheap.mbd Corruptor - Water - Trick Arrow.mbd

[Duckbutler]

1 hour ago, Carnifax said:

Damn you! 

 

So I'm ~level 20 now with Fish Kebab after doing a couple of builds and as expected really liking them. Haven't even got the really fun Trick Arrow powers yet. 

 

Cheapo / getting to 50 build (no purples or the like) and a maxxed out version. I'll probably end up somewhere between the two builds once done (although I may also have my traditional Emergency Endurance Rejig in the early 30s). 

 

Close-enough-to-caps that Flash Arrow should floor their ToHit chances, lots of procs in various powers. All the TA tricks (even Glue Arrow which I usually skip).

 

Corruptor - Water - Trick Arrow_cheap.mbd 45.38 kB · 1 download Corruptor - Water - Trick Arrow.mbd 45.29 kB · 1 download

 

I really like that a) you made and posted both builds and b) that you're prioritizing the fix for Endurance. This is kinda sorta what I've been trying to do but since I'm only a month returned I'm still figuring a lot of it out.

[Bhulik]

On 2/14/2024 at 5:09 AM, Carnifax said:

Fish Kebab

I realize I am reviving an old post, but is there any chance you could post build in a different way? I cannot access Mids.

thanks much

[Carnifax]

11 hours ago, Bhulik said:

I realize I am reviving an old post, but is there any chance you could post build in a different way? I cannot access Mids.

thanks much

I tried but when I fired up Mids it updated and immediately started throwing exceptions and refusing to load anything. 

 

Mids is all over the place at the moment. Very frustrating. Let me see if I can fix it....

 

Edit, right reinstall and avoid the latest update seems to have sorted it

 

Cheap build

Quote

Villain Corruptor
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.7.4 rev. 8
──────────────────────────────

• Primary powerset: Water Blast
• Secondary powerset: Trick Arrow
• Pool powerset (#1): Speed
• Pool powerset (#2): Leadership
• Pool powerset (#3): Sorcery
• Pool powerset (#4): Flight
• Ancillary powerset: Mace Mastery

──────────────────────────────

Powers taken:

Level 1: Aqua Bolt

• A: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage
• 3: Thunderstrike: Damage/Endurance
• 3: Thunderstrike: Damage/Recharge
• 5: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 5: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• 7: Thunderstrike: Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 1: Entangling Arrow

• A: Invention: Accuracy

Level 2: Water Burst

• A: Superior Scourging Blast: Accuracy/Damage
• 7: Superior Scourging Blast: Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
• 9: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
• 17: Superior Scourging Blast: Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• 19: Overwhelming Force: Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown
• 29: Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge

Level 4: Flash Arrow

• A: Dark Watcher's Despair: To Hit Debuff
• 13: Dark Watcher's Despair: To Hit Debuff/Recharge
• 15: Dark Watcher's Despair: To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
• 15: Dark Watcher's Despair: To Hit Debuff/Endurance

Level 6: Whirlpool

• A: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage
• 34: Artillery: Damage/Endurance
• 34: Artillery: Damage/Recharge
• 36: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 36: Artillery: Accuracy/Recharge/Range
• 36: Artillery: Endurance/Recharge/Range

Level 8: Tidal Forces

• A: Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control: Chance for Build Up
• 9: Invention: Recharge Reduction
• 37: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 10: Ice Arrow

• A: Invention: Accuracy
• 11: Ghost Widow's Embrace: Chance of Damage(Psionic)
• 11: Neuronic Shutdown: Chance of Damage(Psionic)
• 21: Impeded Swiftness: Chance of Damage(Smashing)
• 23: Ice Mistral's Torment: Chance for Cold Damage
• 23: Unbreakable Constraint: Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 12: Dehydrate

• A: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage
• 13: Thunderstrike: Damage/Endurance
• 17: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 25: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• 27: Achilles' Heel: Chance for Res Debuff
• 27: Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance

Level 14: Glue Arrow

• A: Invention: Slow

Level 16: Poison Gas Arrow

• A: Call of the Sandman: Chance of Heal Self

Level 18: Water Jet

• A: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage
• 19: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 21: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• 42: Thunderstrike: Damage/Endurance
• 42: Ice Mistral's Torment: Chance for Cold Damage
• 43: Impeded Swiftness: Chance of Damage(Smashing)

Level 20: Acid Arrow

• A: Invention: Accuracy
• 31: Achilles' Heel: Chance for Res Debuff
• 33: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
• 33: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
• 33: Touch of Lady Grey: Chance for Negative Damage

Level 22: Steam Spray

• A: Superior Scourging Blast: Damage/RechargeTime
• 29: Superior Scourging Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• 47: Superior Scourging Blast: RechargeTime/PBAoE +End
• 47: Artillery: Accuracy/Recharge/Range
• 49: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 50: Artillery: Damage/Endurance

Level 24: Disruption Arrow

• A: Power Transfer: Chance to Heal Self

Level 26: Geyser

• A: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Accuracy/Damage
• 39: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Damage/Recharge
• 39: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 40: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 40: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 40: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Recharge/Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 28: Oil Slick Arrow

• A: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage
• 43: Artillery: Damage/Recharge
• 43: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 46: Artillery: Accuracy/Recharge/Range
• A: Artillery: Damage/Endurance
• 42: Artillery: Endurance/Recharge/Range

Level 30: EMP Arrow

• A: Basilisk's Gaze: Accuracy/Hold
• 31: Basilisk's Gaze: Accuracy/Recharge
• 31: Basilisk's Gaze: Endurance/Recharge/Hold
• 45: Basilisk's Gaze: Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
• 46: Ghost Widow's Embrace: Accuracy/Hold/Recharge

Level 32: Hasten

• A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
• 46: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 35: Scorpion Shield

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• 39: Invention: Defense Buff
• 45: Invention: Defense Buff

Level 38: Maneuvers

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• 45: Kismet: Accuracy +6%
• 49: Invention: Defense Buff

Level 41: Spirit Ward

• A: Numina's Convalesence: +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 44: Mystic Flight

• A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 47: Tactics

• A: Invention: To Hit Buff

Level 49: Rune of Protection

• A: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%
• A: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)

──────────────────────────────

Inherents:

Level 1: Scourge

Level 1: Brawl

• (Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

• A: Celerity: +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

• (Empty)

Level 2: Swift

• (Empty)

Level 2: Hurdle

• (Empty)

Level 2: Health

• A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance
• 34: Miracle: +Recovery

Level 2: Stamina

• A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End
• 50: Performance Shifter: EndMod
• 50: Invention: Endurance Modification

Level 1: Combo Level 1

Level 1: Combo Level 2

Level 1: Combo Level 3

Level 49: Translocation

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

• (Empty)

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

• (Empty)

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

• (Empty)

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

• (Empty)

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

• (Empty)

Level 4: Ninja Run

 

 

Expensive version

Quote

Villain Corruptor
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.7.4 rev. 8
──────────────────────────────

• Primary powerset: Water Blast
• Secondary powerset: Trick Arrow
• Pool powerset (#1): Sorcery
• Pool powerset (#2): Fighting
• Pool powerset (#3): Speed
• Pool powerset (#4): Leadership
• Ancillary powerset: Mace Mastery
  

──────────────────────────────

Powers taken:

Level 1: Aqua Bolt

• A: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage
• 3: Thunderstrike: Damage/Endurance
• 3: Thunderstrike: Damage/Recharge
• 5: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 5: Thunderstrike: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• 7: Thunderstrike: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 1: Entangling Arrow

• A: Endoplasm Exposure
  

Level 2: Water Burst

• A: Superior Scourging Blast: Accuracy/Damage
• 7: Superior Scourging Blast: Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
• 9: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
• 17: Superior Scourging Blast: Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• 19: Overwhelming Force: Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown
• 29: Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge
  

Level 4: Flash Arrow

• A: Dark Watcher's Despair: To Hit Debuff
• 13: Dark Watcher's Despair: To Hit Debuff/Recharge
• 15: Dark Watcher's Despair: To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
• 15: Dark Watcher's Despair: To Hit Debuff/Endurance
  

Level 6: Whirlpool

• A: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage
• 34: Artillery: Damage/Endurance
• 34: Artillery: Damage/Recharge
• 36: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 36: Artillery: Accuracy/Recharge/Range
• 36: Artillery: Endurance/Recharge/Range
  

Level 8: Tidal Forces

• A: Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control: Chance for Build Up
• 9: Invention: Recharge Reduction
  

Level 10: Ice Arrow

• A: Endoplasm Exposure
• 11: Ghost Widow's Embrace: Chance of Damage(Psionic)
• 11: Neuronic Shutdown: Chance of Damage(Psionic)
• 21: Unbreakable Constraint: Chance for Smashing Damage
• 23: Gladiator's Net: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
• 23: Ice Mistral's Torment: Chance for Cold Damage
  

Level 12: Dehydrate

• A: Apocalypse: Damage
• 13: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge
• 17: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
• 25: Apocalypse: Recharge/Accuracy
• 27: Apocalypse: Damage/Endurance
• 27: Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance
  

Level 14: Mystic Flight

• A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 16: Poison Gas Arrow

• A: Call of the Sandman: Chance of Heal Self
  

Level 18: Water Jet

• A: Nucleolus Exposure
• 19: Nucleolus Exposure
• 21: Nucleolus Exposure
• 42: Apocalypse: Chance of Damage(Negative)
• 42: Ice Mistral's Torment: Chance for Cold Damage
• 43: Impeded Swiftness: Chance of Damage(Smashing)
  

Level 20: Acid Arrow

• A: Invention: Accuracy
• 31: Achilles' Heel: Chance for Res Debuff
• 31: Shield Breaker: Chance for Lethal Damage
• 33: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
• 33: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
• 33: Touch of Lady Grey: Chance for Negative Damage
  

Level 22: Steam Spray

• A: Superior Scourging Blast: Damage/RechargeTime
• 29: Superior Scourging Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• 47: Superior Scourging Blast: RechargeTime/PBAoE +End
• 47: Artillery: Accuracy/Recharge/Range
• 49: Artillery: Endurance/Recharge/Range
• 50: Artillery: Damage/Endurance
  

Level 24: Disruption Arrow

• A: Power Transfer: Chance to Heal Self
  

Level 26: Geyser

• A: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Accuracy/Damage
• 39: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Damage/Recharge
• 39: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 40: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 40: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• 40: Superior Malice of the Corruptor: Recharge/Chance for Negative Energy Damage
  

Level 28: Oil Slick Arrow

• A: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage
• 43: Artillery: Damage/Recharge
• 43: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• 46: Artillery: Accuracy/Recharge/Range
• A: Artillery: Damage/Endurance
• 42: Artillery: Endurance/Recharge/Range
  

Level 30: EMP Arrow

• A: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold
• 31: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Recharge/Accuracy
• 45: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Recharge
• 46: Unbreakable Constraint: Recharge/Accuracy
• 48: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Endurance
  

Level 32: Glue Arrow

• A: Invention: Slow
  

Level 35: Scorpion Shield

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• 45: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Endurance
• 45: Luck of the Gambler: Defense
  

Level 38: Kick

• (Empty)
  

Level 41: Hasten

• A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
• 46: Invention: Recharge Reduction
  

Level 44: Tough

• A: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)
• A: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%
  

Level 47: Weave

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• A: Cytoskeleton Exposure
• A: Invention: Defense Buff
  

Level 49: Maneuvers

• A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• A: Cytoskeleton Exposure
  

──────────────────────────────

Inherents:

Level 1: Scourge

Level 1: Brawl

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Sprint

• A: Celerity: +Stealth
  

Level 2: Rest

• (Empty)
  

Level 2: Swift

• (Empty)
  

Level 2: Hurdle

• (Empty)
  

Level 2: Health

• A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance
  

Level 2: Stamina

• A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End
• 50: Performance Shifter: EndMod
• 50: Invention: Endurance Modification
  

Level 1: Combo Level 1

Level 1: Combo Level 2

Level 1: Combo Level 3

Level 14: Translocation

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

• (Empty)
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

• (Empty)
  

Level 4: Ninja Run

 

 

Edited May 28 by Carnifax

[kelika2]

Kinetics is too strong, once you get a good FS in the rest of your team will obliterate everything not giving you time to animate or time for DoTs.

 

Water/Storm (skip hurricane and gale) for dot stacking.  Freezing rain + whirlpool is good times.  then steam spray for more dots and so on

Water/Dark and you can try to recolor your dark stuff to be steamlike.  get used to teleportation pool so you can Teleport Target your dark servant into melee

Water/Trick Arrow.  oil slick alone is worth it.  can also use glue arrow to keep things in your whirlpool