Superman: Legacy First Look

[Glacier Peak]

I dunno. The general audience knows who Superman is though. He's been around for almost 90 years. Every variation of his origin story and exploits have been told in every medium that can be consumed to every generation multiple times over.

[Luminara]

33 minutes ago, Techwright said:

I believe there was even a Kryptonian monkey at one point

 

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The man directing this has never directed anything but comedies.

 

Do NOT give him more ideas.

[Techwright]

3 hours ago, Luminara said:

 

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The man directing this has never directed anything but comedies.

 

Do NOT give him more ideas.

 

So, I shouldn't bring up the super-ventriloquism, then?

 

[Ghost]

16 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

I dunno. The general audience knows who Superman is though. He's been around for almost 90 years. Every variation of his origin story and exploits have been told in every medium that can be consumed to every generation multiple times over.

They also who Batman is, along with his backstory - yet they still seem to find ways not to turn Batman movies into full blown ensembles.

Sorry, but this is a new version of Superman.  I want to learn about this version.  I want to see the world established.  I want Lois to be something more than someone who just shows up whenever it’s convenient.

I also want to learn about this Clark.

 

Instead, we will have to learn about the new heroes and villains.  Who they are and what their motivations are.

IMO it takes away who this version of Clark/Superman is.

 

Does this mean it will suck? Of course not.  It could be the greatest superhero movie ever made (although that’s not what the recent test screening is saying).  It just won’t be the greatest Superman movie ever made.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 04:17 PM by Ghost

[Glacier Peak]

37 minutes ago, Ghost said:

ways not to turn Batman movies into full blown ensembles

I dunno. If you're referring to the most recent Matt Reeves version - Batman, Alfred, Catwoman, the Riddler, the Penguin, Jim Gordon were all in the movie and were all played by major actors. How many does an ensemble make?

[Ghost]

11 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said:

I dunno. If you're referring to the most recent Matt Reeves version - Batman, Alfred, Catwoman, the Riddler, the Penguin, Jim Gordon were all in the movie and were all played by major actors. How many does an ensemble make?

Alfred and Gordon belong in any Batman story.

 

I don’t have an issue with 3 villains in a movie.

What I have a problem with is 3 villains plus 5 heroes.  Especially when it’s the movie that is supposed to be establishing Superman’s world.

 

A comparison would be to have called the Justice League movie…..Batman

Edited Saturday at 04:50 PM by Ghost

[TTRPGWhiz]

6 hours ago, Ghost said:

Alfred and Gordon belong in any Batman story.

 

I don’t have an issue with 3 villains in a movie.

What I have a problem with is 3 villains plus 5 heroes.  Especially when it’s the movie that is supposed to be establishing Superman’s world.

 

A comparison would be to have called the Justice League movie…..Batman

 

Personally, I am 100% over the “here’s this solo superhero, yes other superheroes exist but this movie won’t reference or involve them at all, except at the very end where someone makes a cameo to show you how this world is interconnected”. Just, no. 
 

We have 0 idea how much screen time the non-Superman heroes are going to have. I know “wait and see” is anathema to a lot of people, but what if we tried it just one time.

[biostem]

On 1/4/2025 at 6:00 PM, TTRPGWhiz said:

Personally, I am 100% over the “here’s this solo superhero, yes other superheroes exist but this movie won’t reference or involve them at all, except at the very end where someone makes a cameo to show you how this world is interconnected”. Just, no. 

In general, I agree.  The problem is that, (at least from my perspective), we really haven't gotten to a point where we've moved beyond the "Batman has Gotham, Superman has Metropolis, Flash has Central City, and each stays in their lane, until a truly world-ranging threat appears", phase of any DCEU;  They try to put the cart before the horse, and essentially sabotage themselves - Give each character enough, well, "character" to stand on their own, and only once each is well established, should you start doing crossovers.  instead, they want to rush toward that promise of a $1 billion blockbuster...