Idea for a new Blast set tier 9

[Wavicle]

I don't have the concept for the set, but mechanically speaking:

 

A Location based Tele-nuke that does its PBAoE damage at the location you are when you set it off, instead of the location you arrive at.

 

Seems like something worth having in at least ONE set, no?

[FupDup]

This could potentially fit into a Sniper Rifle set, with the player character dropping a flare to call in an airstrike on their location before they retreat away. Like if their position got overrun or something. 

 

Or perhaps replace Meteor since that nuke's calldown delay is so long that it's actually considered a skippable power. 

[Wavicle]

  On 1/5/2025 at 10:47 PM, FupDup said:

This could potentially fit into a Sniper Rifle set, with the player character dropping a flare to call in an airstrike on their location before they retreat away. Like if their position got overrun or something. 

 

Or perhaps replace Meteor since that nuke's calldown delay is so long that it's actually considered a skippable power. 

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An idea that popped into my head is some sort of Lucky Blast set, could have guns, and the t9 could be Narrow Escape, you dodge out of the way just in the nick of time.

[Rudra]

  On 1/5/2025 at 11:10 PM, Wavicle said:

 

An idea that popped into my head is some sort of Lucky Blast set, could have guns, and the t9 could be Narrow Escape, you dodge out of the way just in the nick of time.

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I really don't see a blast set getting a defense power as its T9 like an armor set.

[Bluff]

  On 1/6/2025 at 12:08 AM, Rudra said:

I really don't see a blast set getting a defense power as its T9 like an armor set.

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Hail of Bullets sets a precedent for this.

Edited January 6 by Bluff

[Wavicle]

  On 1/6/2025 at 12:08 AM, Rudra said:

I really don't see a blast set getting a defense power as its T9 like an armor set.

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You misunderstand. Not a defense power, a Teleport power. Only this one Nukes and teleports you away (if you want).

[Luminara]

Like explosive flatulence propelling you across the room?  Because I could totally get down with that.

 

*put put put put put*

[Rudra]

  On 1/6/2025 at 12:22 AM, Bluff said:

 

Hail of Bullets sets a precedent for this.

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Hail of Bullets isn't a defense power. It is a nuke that also happens to grant defense.

 

  On 1/6/2025 at 12:24 AM, Wavicle said:

You misunderstand. Not a defense power, a Teleport power. Only this one Nukes and teleports you away (if you want).

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You're right, I misunderstood. That makes more sense. (Edit: Though I would probably call that more like "Explosive Decoy" or something similar. Have it spawn a copy of you as a pet as part of you teleporting away, the copy generates aggro like Omega Maneuver, and then promptly explodes as a nuke.)

 

Edited January 6 by Rudra

[Jacke]

  On 1/6/2025 at 12:45 AM, Rudra said:

Hail of Bullets isn't a defense power. It is a nuke that also happens to grant defense.

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It's like +Def for 5 seconds.  Click off that Green Button in MRB, it's helps a bit but isn't around much at all.

 

 

[ScarySai]

  On 1/6/2025 at 12:45 AM, Rudra said:

Hail of Bullets isn't a defense power. It is a nuke that also happens to grant defense.

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Gotta love that selective logic.

[macskull]

  On 1/6/2025 at 12:45 AM, Rudra said:

Hail of Bullets isn't a defense power. It is a nuke that also happens to grant defense.

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Elude isn’t a defense power. It is a run speed, jump height, and endmod buff that also happens to grant defense. Look, I can do it too!

Edited January 6 by macskull

[Glacier Peak]

  On 1/6/2025 at 3:37 PM, macskull said:

Elude isn’t a defense power. It is a run speed, jump height, and endmod buff that also happens to grant defense. Look, I can do it too!

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Elude's player buffs lasts 3 whole minutes. Hail of Bullets last 5 seconds. Bit of a reach just to poke fun at another poster. 

[Rudra]

  On 1/6/2025 at 3:37 PM, macskull said:

  On 1/6/2025 at 12:45 AM, Rudra said:

Hail of Bullets isn't a defense power. It is a nuke that also happens to grant defense.

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Elude isn’t a defense power. It is a run speed, jump height, and endmod buff that also happens to grant defense. Look, I can do it too!

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Hail of Bullets is intended as a damage power, Dual Pistols T9 nuke. It gives a defense boost for all of 5 seconds. Elude grants its defense bonus for 3 minutes. One of these two powers is a defense power, the other isn't. Try again.

[macskull]

  On 1/6/2025 at 6:22 PM, Rudra said:

Hail of Bullets is intended as a damage power, Dual Pistols T9 nuke. It gives a defense boost for all of 5 seconds. Elude grants its defense bonus for 3 minutes. One of these two powers is a defense power, the other isn't. Try again.

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Your argument is entirely based on semantics. You probably wouldn’t normally refer to Hail of Bullets as a “defense power,” but the power absolutely does grant defense so you would not be incorrect if you did refer to it that way. That poster is simply saying there is precedent for a blast set t9 giving the player a defensive buff.

 

Put another way - is Parry an attack or a defense power? Is Soul Drain an attack or a damage/tohit buff? Is Siphon Life an attack or a heal? Turns out powers can be both at the same time.

 

I also don’t really see why duration is factoring into this at all, since neither OP nor anyone else made any mention of that they’d want such a buff to last for 3 minutes or anything until you brought it up.

Edited January 6 by macskull

[FupDup]

This whole sub-debate is stupid. Let's just get back to gushing over Sniper Rifle Blast having an airstrike as its T9, as God intended. 

 

[macskull]

  On 1/6/2025 at 10:52 PM, FupDup said:

This whole sub-debate is stupid. Let's just get back to gushing over Sniper Rifle Blast having an airstrike as its T9, as God intended. 

 

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Unfortunately it is my solemn and sworn duty to combat stupidity where I see it, but yes I fully support changing Beanbag to Tactical Airstrike.

[Rudra]

  On 1/6/2025 at 10:45 PM, macskull said:

Your argument is entirely based on semantics. You probably wouldn’t normally refer to Hail of Bullets as a “defense power,” but the power absolutely does grant defense so you would not be incorrect if you did refer to it that way. That poster is simply saying there is precedent for a blast set t9 giving the player a defensive buff.

 

Put another way - is Parry an attack or a defense power? Is Soul Drain an attack or a damage/tohit buff? Is Siphon Life an attack or a heal? Turns out powers can be both at the same time.

 

I also don’t really see why duration is factoring into this at all, since neither OP nor anyone else made any mention of that they’d want such a buff to last for 3 minutes or anything until you brought it up.

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I am disinclined to have yet another pointless argument with you. The author has already clarified what (s)he/they meant and I admitted my mistake in understanding the OP. So kindly drop it.

[biostem]

  On 1/5/2025 at 10:40 PM, Wavicle said:

A Location based Tele-nuke that does its PBAoE damage at the location you are when you set it off, instead of the location you arrive at.

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It kind of sounds like a combination of shield charge and Omega Maneuver, all in 1, and with you teleporting away from instead of toward the enemies.  It's not a bad idea, but without the taunt built in to Omega Maneuver, it'd need to go off light right away, lest the enemies move away from it...