Avengers: Doomsday - Full Cast Announcement

Luminara · February 19

If they don't have a "Schrödinger's Cap" joke in this movie, I'll go ballistic.

Techwright · February 20

23 hours ago, Luminara said:

If they don't have a "Schrödinger's Cap" joke in this movie, I'll go ballistic.

ThaOGDreamWeaver · March 4

This far ahead, concept art etc should be treated with exceptional caution, but a swift Google will find you some things that probably should have stayed under wraps from a Marvel artist called Mushk Rizvi (listed on LinkedIn as Senior Concept/Viz, though unfortunately she may be Open To Work fairly soon).

As I don’t want the ninja monkey lawyers descending on us, here’s a link rather than a repost.
https://comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers-doomsday/avengers-doomsday-concept-art-reveals-first-look-at-robert-downey-jr-as-doctor-doom-and-more---spoilers-a216532#gs.k6pjhs

But to save you the clickbait, we get:

DOOM in classic silver armour and green cloak, though the mask is more finely chiselled than usual and the detailing more regal.
A wide shot of DOOM holding court in a very Elizabethan setting. Kneeling on the floor is Pedro in full period costume, on a chain held by a black-clad ScarJo. (Mmm, fanservice.)
Battleworld’s Greenland - a nation composed entirely of Hulks - in what looks like period Scottish dress, if with a bit more skin on show. (Hello, Outlander stans). Ruffalo and Maslany versions front and center.
White Vision and Peter Quill hanging out for pizza and beer.

Techwright · March 4

8 hours ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

This far ahead, concept art etc should be treated with exceptional caution, but a swift Google will find you some things that probably should have stayed under wraps from a Marvel artist called Mushk Rizvi (listed on LinkedIn as Senior Concept/Viz, though unfortunately she may be Open To Work fairly soon).

As I don’t want the ninja monkey lawyers descending on us, here’s a link rather than a repost.
https://comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers-doomsday/avengers-doomsday-concept-art-reveals-first-look-at-robert-downey-jr-as-doctor-doom-and-more---spoilers-a216532#gs.k6pjhs

All the links at that site are suddenly not working, including the artist's official site. There is the one concept photo for Doom on the link you provided, but that appears to be it. However, a quick search for "avengers doomsday concept art" brought up most of what you described. Even better, I found (SPOILERS) a non-English website still functioning that has the panels you described, plus additional ones. Apparently there is a mix of Avengers: Doomsday concept art and at least one other MCU project, Vision Quest. That is supposedly where the White Vision/Peter Quill panel comes into play. There's additionally a female-form android looking a lot like Ultron, but being called "Jocasta".

Question: I only collected comics during the 1990s, and that limits my knowledge. Has main comic book Dr. Doom ever shown his entire face? (As opposed to say, Doom 2099) I know there've been some carefully framed panels where a small portion of his face is shown, but I'm unaware of his full face. That was something that bothered me of the Fantastic Four films from 20 years back: Doom's face was all over the films. With what I've known over the years, they've always presented him like neighbor Wilson on Home Improvement: never showing the full face, so the mask, in essence, is Doom's face.

TTRPGWhiz · March 26

https://deadline.com/gallery/avengers-doomsday-cast-photos-marvel/

ThaOGDreamWeaver · March 26

Okay: we have an anno video for the entire cast...

And it is worth listening to just for some of the neat musical cues in here too 😄

But for reference, we get - and this ALSO may give spoilers for F4 Thunderbolts, so BEWARE...

Spoiler

Hemsworth (Thor - or the Thor Corps?)
Vanessa Kirby (Sue Storm)
Anthony Mackie (Cap)
Sebastian Stan (Bucky)
Letitia Wright (Black Panther II / Shuri)
Paul Rudd (Ant-Man)
Wyatt Russell (USAgent)
Tenoch Huerta Meijia (Namor)
Ebon Moss-Bacharach (Your Ever-Lovin' Blue-Eyed Thing)
Simu Liu (Shang-Chi)
Flo Pugh (Yelena)
Kelsey Grammer (Beast)
Lewis Pullman (Sentry/The Void)
Danny Ramirez (Jo Torres - F&WS/CA:BNW)
Joe Quinn (Johnny Storm)
David Harbour (Red Guardian)
Winston Duke (YAY! M'Baku is back...)
Hannah John-Kamen (Ghost)
Tom Hiddlestone (Loki)
Pat Stewart (Prof X)
Ian McKellen (Magneto)
Alan Cumming (Nightcrawler)
Rebecca Romijn (OG Mystique!)
James Marsden (Cyclops)
Channing Tatum (Le Magnifique Remy LeBeau - yes, they really did it)
Pedro Pascal (Reed Richards)
...and some beardy dude.

Okay, so what may be more important here is who's not in the cast, or at least not yet.

No Deadpool, no Cap Marvel/Kamala/Photon, no Hulk(s), no Doc Strange, and no Spidey.

Sure, that cast list is plenty big and unwieldy enough as it is: but there's definitely a few surprises as to who's in/out right now.

TTRPGWhiz · March 27

12 hours ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

Okay: we have an anno video for the entire cast...

And it is worth listening to just for some of the neat musical cues in here too 😄

But for reference, we get - and this ALSO may give spoilers for F4 Thunderbolts, so BEWARE...

Hide contents

Hemsworth (Thor - or the Thor Corps?)

Vanessa Kirby (Sue Storm)

Anthony Mackie (Cap)

Sebastian Stan (Bucky)

Letitia Wright (Black Panther II / Shuri)

Paul Rudd (Ant-Man)

Wyatt Russell (USAgent)

Tenoch Huerta Meijia (Namor)

Ebon Moss-Bacharach (Your Ever-Lovin' Blue-Eyed Thing)

Simu Liu (Shang-Chi)

Flo Pugh (Yelena)

Kelsey Grammer (Beast)

Lewis Pullman (Sentry/The Void)

Danny Ramirez (Jo Torres - F&WS/CA:BNW)

Joe Quinn (Johnny Storm)

David Harbour (Red Guardian)

Winston Duke (YAY! M'Baku is back...)

Hannah John-Kamen (Ghost)

Tom Hiddlestone (Loki)

Pat Stewart (Prof X)

Ian McKellen (Magneto)

Alan Cumming (Nightcrawler)

Rebecca Romijn (OG Mystique!)

James Marsden (Cyclops)

Channing Tatum (Le Magnifique Remy LeBeau - yes, they really did it)

Pedro Pascal (Reed Richards)

...and some beardy dude.

Okay, so what may be more important here is who's not in the cast, or at least not yet.

No Deadpool, no Cap Marvel/Kamala/Photon, no Hulk(s), no Doc Strange, and no Spidey.

Sure, that cast list is plenty big and unwieldy enough as it is: but there's definitely a few surprises as to who's in/out right now.

That Sentry spoiler is massive, might want to rethink that one.

ThaOGDreamWeaver · March 27

53 minutes ago, TTRPGWhiz said:

That spoiler is massive, might want to rethink that one.

Kinda think the cat's out of the bag now...

...then again, if we're going for multiversal-collapse malarkey, you can still defeat any given character but have another one show up from a different 'verse.

Also, in the comics...

Spoiler

Bob/Sentry isn't exactly defeated in his appearances. The Void being his monster from the id* an' all that, it's removed or tamed in various ways: erasing the world's memories Pete Parker style (along with his own), removing a psychic virus, dream therapy sessions with Doc Strange and a few other things, confining the Void to a pocket dimension.... but the problems always come back after a while.

Which, to be honest, is more accurate. You can't kill that kind of a problem outright. It needs management. Befriending Banner/Hulk seems to help more than anything, since they're very much in the same boat...

_{*Forbidden Planet (1956), based very loosely on Shakespeare's The Tempest: with Robbie standing for Ariel as the good, creative side of humanity, and The Beast as Caliban, the venal, destructive side. Spawned a million sci-fi plotlines, and Robbie became a bit of a legend in his own right.

And yes, that is a young Leslie Nielsen. Surely he can't be that hot? Yes, and he could call me Shirley.}

Edited March 27 by ThaOGDreamWeaver

TTRPGWhiz · March 27

1 hour ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

Kinda think the cat's out of the bag now...

...then again, if we're going for multiversal-collapse malarkey, you can still defeat any given character but have another one show up from a different 'verse.

Also, in the comics...

Hide contents

Bob/Sentry isn't exactly defeated in his appearances. The Void being his monster from the id* an' all that, it's removed or tamed in various ways: erasing the world's memories Pete Parker style (along with his own), removing a psychic virus, dream therapy sessions with Doc Strange and a few other things, confining the Void to a pocket dimension.... but the problems always come back after a while.

Which, to be honest, is more accurate. You can't kill that kind of a problem outright. It needs management. Befriending Banner/Hulk seems to help more than anything, since they're very much in the same boat...

_{*Forbidden Planet (1956), based very loosely on Shakespeare's The Tempest: with Robbie standing for Ariel as the good, creative side of humanity, and The Beast as Caliban, the venal, destructive side. Spawned a million sci-fi plotlines, and Robbie became a bit of a legend in his own right.

And yes, that is a young Leslie Nielsen. Surely he can't be that hot? Yes, and he could call me Shirley.}

I am very familiar with the comics lol. It's why I didn't refer to this dude's first trailer appearance as "Bulletproof Bob (?)" 😅

Edited March 27 by TTRPGWhiz

Jacke · March 27

16 hours ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

Okay: we have an anno video for the entire cast..

Thanks for given all the parts! I knew a few, but was wondering about the others....

16 hours ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

Okay, so what may be more important here is who's not in the cast, or at least not yet.

No Deadpool, no Cap Marvel/Kamala/Photon, no Hulk(s), no Doc Strange, and no Spidey.

Sure, that cast list is plenty big and unwieldy enough as it is: but there's definitely a few surprises as to who's in/out right now.

Welp, those are who they're announcing, to hype up the punters that this is going to be BIG!

But I'm sure they're going to keep some under wraps, for future trailers. And hopefully to spring in the film!

TTRPGWhiz · March 27

This is starting to feel more and more like the Secret Wars / universe incursion storyline. Most of these folks will probably be playing those roles for the last time. A Doctor Doom plot being the method by which the FF join the fray is pretty perfect. Kinda hoping Galactus eats their Earth and they need a new one.

ZacKing · March 27

27 minutes ago, TTRPGWhiz said:

Most of these folks will probably be playing those roles for the last time.

Yeah that's what the actors said with "Logan" and "Endgame". Logan was supposed to be Jackman and Stewart's "swansong" in those roles. Throw enough money at any of them and they'll come back as many times as Disney can afford.

Seeing the list of who's who going to be in this, it's clear Disney thinks cameos alone are a winning formula (see Deadpool and Wolverine) , but I'm really hoping that's not all there is to it and the story for this doesn't stink like D&W did. Don't get me wrong, it was a fun movie to watch ... once.

ThaOGDreamWeaver · March 27

2 hours ago, TTRPGWhiz said:

Kinda hoping Galactus eats their Earth and they need a new one.

That's kinda what I heard.

Spoiler

FF are setting up to defeat Galactus, but DOOM gets in the way for some reason (maybe only DOOM must be the saviour, for DOOM is supreme [cue long Mojo-Jojo speech]...) before exiting stage left to the MCUniverse.

...and in the post-credits scene, he arrives in NYC next to a very familiar mural. And then picks up a biography of one Tony Stark...

Techwright · March 28

Regarding who is not in the cast...

Spoiler

You didn't mention Paul Bettany (White Vision). No Strange is, well, strange, but then we didn't get to see Hawkeye in Avengers: Infinity War. There was a reason, though, as we found out later. Perhaps there is also for Strange. And, hey, no Wong either, and he's the current Sorcerer Supreme. I've not seen the last couple of films, so did someone waste him? You'd think Kamertaj would be on full alert after the last threat to the world/universe caught them off-guard.

Speaking of Hawkeye, neither one of them is listed in the cast. I can understand Jeremy Renner being unavailable after that horrible accident, but no Kate?

Regarding who is in the cast...

Spoiler

I strongly suspect all, or most of the OG live-action X-men will bite the proverbial bullet in this film. While it might be interesting to see a story arc where Nightcrawler (for example) is aging, for others, the roles are becoming problematic. Sir Patrick is 84 now. They can't bank on him always being here. Wolverine will be a CGI nightmare if they're planning to keep Hugh Jackman in the fight and looking eternally young. What makes sense is the X-men making the sacrifice play. Perhaps, when the dust settles and the universe reforms with characters returning or being forged, we'll get the X-men: First Class cast, perhaps intermingled with new actors. Not that they'll play the characters from the exact same universe as First Class, but, like Patrick Stewart in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, they'll be dopplegangers, but older.

Maybe we'll get Forge and Dazzler this time. One could hope.

Mopery · March 28

On 3/4/2025 at 8:40 AM, Techwright said:

Question: I only collected comics during the 1990s, and that limits my knowledge. Has main comic book Dr. Doom ever shown his entire face? (As opposed to say, Doom 2099) I know there've been some carefully framed panels where a small portion of his face is shown, but I'm unaware of his full face. That was something that bothered me of the Fantastic Four films from 20 years back: Doom's face was all over the films. With what I've known over the years, they've always presented him like neighbor Wilson on Home Improvement: never showing the full face, so the mask, in essence, is Doom's face.

I seem to remember Doom showing his face in the Fantastic Four vs The X-Men comics, was a story about Franklin Richards, Doom, Majik, Mephisto, etc. The story is Doom was practicing magic in an effort to outdo Reed Richards' scientific prowess at the University(don't quote me on that), and it literally blew up in his face, scarring it for life. Hence, he wears a mask. He also blamed Richards for the accident, and ever since has been Mr. Fantastic's archenemy.

Techwright · March 28

3 minutes ago, Mopery said:

I seem to remember Doom showing his face in the Fantastic Four vs The X-Men comics, was a story about Franklin Richards, Doom, Majik, Mephisto, etc. The story is Doom was practicing magic in an effort to outdo Reed Richards' scientific prowess at the University(don't quote me on that), and it literally blew up in his face, scarring it for life. Hence, he wears a mask. He also blamed Richards for the accident, and ever since has been Mr. Fantastic's archenemy.

This does sound familiar, though it also sounds like the plot between Superman and Lex Luthor back on the old Superfriends cartoon. Young Supes saw a vile cloud escaping from Luthor's lab, assumed it was a hazard to the public, and super-blew it back into the lab, where Lex inhaled enough that all his hair fell out, kicking off their feud.

Regardless of the DC parallel, this would make sense as the (seemingly) only time Doom's face would be visible: before donning the mask for the first time.

JKCarrier · March 28

3 hours ago, Techwright said:

This does sound familiar, though it also sounds like the plot between Superman and Lex Luthor back on the old Superfriends cartoon. Young Supes saw a vile cloud escaping from Luthor's lab, assumed it was a hazard to the public, and super-blew it back into the lab, where Lex inhaled enough that all his hair fell out, kicking off their feud.

Yeah, as presented in the original comics, Doom and Luthor have very similar origins. I always thought that was a funny coincidence.

At one point, there was a theory floating around that Doom's scars weren't actually that bad -- maybe just a little slash on one cheek or something. But Doom is so colossally vain that he considers that a "hideous disfigurement". It's a cute idea, but there have been too many instances in the comics where someone saw Doom's unmasked face (even if the audience didn't get to see it) and reacted in horror.

Voltor · March 28

4 hours ago, JKCarrier said:

Yeah, as presented in the original comics, Doom and Luthor have very similar origins. I always thought that was a funny coincidence.

At one point, there was a theory floating around that Doom's scars weren't actually that bad -- maybe just a little slash on one cheek or something. But Doom is so colossally vain that he considers that a "hideous disfigurement". It's a cute idea, but there have been too many instances in the comics where someone saw Doom's unmasked face (even if the audience didn't get to see it) and reacted in horror.

There were issues of the FF comic that showed Doom's origin and that the scar from the initial accident wasn't that bad. It was when he later had his armor forged that he ordered his mask to be placed upon him.......even though it was fresh out of the forge and had NOT COOLED off. That is what messed up his face so badly.

Voltor · March 28

8 hours ago, Mopery said:

I seem to remember Doom showing his face in the Fantastic Four vs The X-Men comics, was a story about Franklin Richards, Doom, Majik, Mephisto, etc. The story is Doom was practicing magic in an effort to outdo Reed Richards' scientific prowess at the University(don't quote me on that), and it literally blew up in his face, scarring it for life. Hence, he wears a mask. He also blamed Richards for the accident, and ever since has been Mr. Fantastic's archenemy.

Doom and Richards met in college, Doom was seeking a way to contact the netherworld in an effort to free his mother's spirit from Mephisto. Reed saw Doom's notes and warned there were some errors in his calculations. Doom didn't listen and the device which had a visor over his face exploded and some minor scarring of his face happened.

It was when he later had his armor forged that he ordered his mask to be placed upon him.......even though it was fresh out of the forge and had NOT COOLED off. That is what messed up his face so badly.

BrandX · Friday at 02:29 PM

I have no care to see the FOX X-Men, whether I liked them in the roles or not, whether I like them as an actor or not.

That said, I believe some of those are going to be nothing more than cameos, but it's a way to get people talking and hyped up.

As for Scarlett and Chris returning to the MCU, I would just like to see Captain America finishing his dance with Peggy but telling her he can't stay and he goes off to return the soul stone and ends up with a rescued Natasha (Hence the "I don't think I will")

JKCarrier · Friday at 03:43 PM

6 hours ago, Voltor said:

There were issues of the FF comic that showed Doom's origin and that the scar from the initial accident wasn't that bad. It was when he later had his armor forged that he ordered his mask to be placed upon him.......even though it was fresh out of the forge and had NOT COOLED off. That is what messed up his face so badly.

Oh right, I had forgotten about that. IIRC, that was John Byrne's idea, to reconcile the two versions ("Doom just has a little scar" vs. "Doom's face is totally messed up").

Ghost · Friday at 05:47 PM

My theory, based on nothing more than my imagination - is that all of these characters won’t actually appear until the very end of the movie. Setting up Secret Wars.

ShardWarrior · Friday at 08:30 PM

5 hours ago, BrandX said:

As for Scarlett and Chris returning to the MCU, I would just like to see Captain America finishing his dance with Peggy but telling her he can't stay and he goes off to return the soul stone and ends up with a rescued Natasha (Hence the "I don't think I will")

Honestly, after how Disney/Marvel treated her with the Black Widow film release, I would be very surprised if Scarlett Johansson comes back. I think this cast is already bloated and that does not bode well for this movie.

biostem · Friday at 10:38 PM

2 hours ago, ShardWarrior said:

Honestly, after how Disney/Marvel treated her with the Black Widow film release, I would be very surprised if Scarlett Johansson comes back. I think this cast is already bloated and that does not bode well for this movie.

I mean, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that all these actors/characters coming back will either be "extended cameos", or only appear for some final rallying cry in the 3rd act, a la End Game's final battle...

Ghost · Saturday at 10:58 AM

Now rumors are starting to circulate that this will actually be Avengers vs X-Men

mmmkay

Maybe I’m looking at that rumor wrong, but why does it feel like they are still just throwing things at a wall?

Edited Saturday at 10:59 AM by Ghost

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