Open beta is here, copy your characters over and start testing!

[Snarky]

2 minutes ago, Erratic1 said:

 

Pretty much.  Give Tankers boost after boost, meanwhile Energy Aura gets nerfed for every other AT so Tankers can have it.

 

When can we expect Super Strength for Scrapper and Stalkers? Maybe a port to blasters as a secondary? 🙄

and Brutes.  been out in the cold a decade now.

[Yomo Kimyata]

16 minutes ago, Erratic1 said:

When can we expect Super Strength for Scrapper and Stalkers?

 

I'd expect tankers to get Fulcrum Shift first, but then again, I'm sure that's in the works.

[KaizenSoze]

Not surprised with the tanker changes. I remember before those changes it's just 80% brutes vs tankers. At least in PUGs.

 

Ratio completely flipped once the buffs hit live. It was inevitable there would be adjustments.

[Snarky]

14 minutes ago, Krimson said:

I don't know, maybe they should just boost the Brute's single-target attacks so it has a chance to proc against 2-5 enemies like Tanker attacks do. That would be a bit of a boost to their damage output without being too unbalanced.

does not matter.  in the issue after the one that is just dropping they are boosting range on everything a Tanker has, turning ST into chance to cleave multiple foes, and upgrading the armors.  because, it is good to be the king....

[Erratic1]

25 minutes ago, Snarky said:

and Brutes.  been out in the cold a decade now.

 

Right now I am thinking of "adapting" my SS/EA Brute (a combination that prior to this only could be done on a Brute) for Tanker glory.

 

Sure, Tankers are getting a slight nerf to their damage boosting powers. But given their larger area of effects and greater survivability, keeping Entropic Aura saturated and achieving double stacked Rage with maximum overlap of the Rage effects should be even easier. 

 

Checking my Brute's numbers on Mid's, that is double-stacked Rage backed Foot Stomp every 5 seconds, Cross Punch every 1.97 seconds, and Knockout Blow every 6.55 seconds.

 

And that ignores my KB->KD Energy Torrent set to resistance debuff everything.

[KaizenSoze]

There is the perfect testing ground for all the armor changes. Kallisti Wharf repeatables, use the Find Contact to get started.

[Snarky]

29 minutes ago, Erratic1 said:

 

Right now I am thinking of "adapting" my SS/EA Brute (a combination that prior to this only could be done on a Brute) for Tanker glory.

 

Sure, Tankers are getting a slight nerf to their damage boosting powers. But given their larger area of effects and greater survivability, keeping Entropic Aura saturated and achieving double stacked Rage with maximum overlap of the Rage effects should be even easier. 

 

Checking my Brute's numbers on Mid's, that is double-stacked Rage backed Foot Stomp every 5 seconds, Cross Punch every 1.97 seconds, and Knockout Blow every 6.55 seconds.

 

And that ignores my KB->KD Energy Torrent set to resistance debuff everything.

Yes, the “oh we reduced something on Tankers” is a beautiful smokescreen for the ignorant.  And, as current events show, it is easy to fool a great number of people because they some stupid MF-ers and no one listens to the nerds. Chef’s kiss.

[Erratic1]

3 minutes ago, Snarky said:

Yes, the “oh we reduced something on Tankers” is a beautiful smokescreen for the ignorant.  And, as current events show, it is easy to fool a great number of people because they some stupid MF-ers and no one listens to the nerds. Chef’s kiss.

 

Do you know how hard it has been for me to restrain myself in the Focus Feedback thread on Tanker changes as goes complaints about Tankers being nerfed?

[Snarky]

21 minutes ago, Erratic1 said:

 

Do you know how hard it has been for me to restrain myself in the Focus Feedback thread on Tanker changes as goes complaints about Tankers being nerfed?

It is a sweet con.  It is tougher to fool a redsider.  We assume everyone has an angle.  This is why i cannot communicate with people that complain about redside arcs, because they feel used instead of like a “supervillain”.  I am like, “bitch, everyone redside is running a game”

 

this is just a wonderful bit of bait and switch.  Truly inspiring.  Of course i will never play another Brute on HC.  In fact, when i get some free time i will start stripping the Brute 50s i have fir parts and stuff to sell. 

[srmalloy]

13 hours ago, Snarky said:

Then when new stuff is uploaded onto the main servers i can complain about what is weong with it.  In accordance with prophecy!

Well, that suggests that he's definitely not Skippy... From the 213 Things Skippy is No Longer Allowed to do in the US Army:

 

7. Not allowed to add ‘In accordance with the prophesy’ to the end of answers I give to a question an officer asks me.

[Jacke]

7 hours ago, Snarky said:

i take it that a Dev lubs his Tanky?

 

Didn't love Tanky enough to give Tanky stealth in Energy Aura.  😾

 

 

[Erratic1]

4 hours ago, Jacke said:

 

Didn't love Tanky enough to give Tanky stealth in Energy Aura.  😾

 

 

 

Stealth is for those cowardly and weak ATs. Not Tankers.

[lemming]

1 hour ago, Erratic1 said:

Stealth is for those cowardly and weak ATs. Not Tankers.

I wouldn't mind having the Stealth component taken off Brutes and given to Sentinels.

[skoryy]

Tankers: "We've been unfairly nerfed!"

Brutes: "Tankers have been unfairly buffed!"

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:46 PM by skoryy

[BZRKR]

3 minutes ago, skoryy said:

Tankers: "We've been unfairly nerfed!"

Brutes: "Tankers have been unfairly buffed!"

Lol, it makes it hard for me to decide what to roll and level up first: do I want buffs or salt? 🙂

 

[Jacke]

3 hours ago, Erratic1 said:

Stealth is for those cowardly and weak ATs. Not Tankers.

 

Sometimes even Tankers want to set up a big surprise.  😺

 

 

[Jacke]

21 minutes ago, skoryy said:

Tankers: "We've been unfairly nerfed!"

Brutes: "Tankers have been unfairly buffed!"

 

Tankers: "We've been unfairly nerfed!  And Brutes have been unfairly buffed!"

Brutes: "We've been unfairly nerfed!  And Tankers have been unfairly buffed!"

 

Now, that's perfectly balanced.  😺

 

 

[Erratic1]

2 hours ago, lemming said:

I wouldn't mind having the Stealth component taken off Brutes and given to Sentinels.

 

Give Brutes another nerf? Sure. That's why the AT exists, to be nerfed.

[Erratic1]

1 hour ago, skoryy said:

Tankers: "We've been unfairly nerfed!"

Brutes: "Tankers have been unfairly buffed!"

 

 

You could perhaps show where Brutes have been buffed? I must have missed it.

[Psyonico]

1 minute ago, Erratic1 said:

 

You could perhaps show where Brutes have been buffed? I must have missed it.

Unless I’m missing something, every armor set that is getting changed in this page (except Enery Aura, which tanks didn’t have before this) is getting buffed.

[Snarky]

1 hour ago, skoryy said:

Tankers: "We've been unfairly nerfed!"

Brutes: "Tankers have been unfairly buffed!"

 

 

 

Yeah, the Nerf Tanks just got (along with buckets of upgrades) is indeed the perfect foil to argue with

 

Thank you, for intentionally (or unintentionally) showing how ignorant people can be fooled by a simple con.  And the bumper sticker response to any analysis of the situation.  Remember, if you scream it loud enough and get enough people to go along then facts are unimportant.  
 

 

[Erratic1]

3 minutes ago, Psyonico said:

Unless I’m missing something, every armor set that is getting changed in this page (except Enery Aura, which tanks didn’t have before this) is getting buffed.

 

Energy Aura is being nerfed for all ATs which had it so Tankers can get it.

 

Elect Armor is having Power Sink weakened, nevermind draining mob endurance being worthless.

 

Perhaps you have "buff" and "nerf" reversed in understanding?

[skoryy]

11 minutes ago, Snarky said:

Thank you, for intentionally (or unintentionally) showing how ignorant people can be fooled by a simple con.  And the bumper sticker response to any analysis of the situation.  Remember, if you scream it loud enough and get enough people to go along then facts are unimportant.

 

"I'm a villain, I know a con when I see it."

 

Soooo.... being a villain, you'd be running the same con, of course.

[Psyonico]

10 minutes ago, Erratic1 said:

 

Energy Aura is being nerfed for all ATs which had it so Tankers can get it.

 

Elect Armor is having Power Sink weakened, nevermind draining mob endurance being worthless.

 

Perhaps you have "buff" and "nerf" reversed in understanding?

EA getting nerfed on other ATs is no bearing on Tanks being nerfed.

 

Dark Armor:

Cloak of Fear - Straight Buff

Obscure Sustanance, neither a buff nor nerf if you ignore it, but its a pretty good power

Soul Transfer: Straight Buff

 

Electric Armor:

Static Shield: Straight Buff

Grounded: straight Buff

Power Sink: I'd call it a rebalance, you're trading some Endurance for Regeneration, so it probably works out to be about even

Energize: Straight Buff

Power Surge: Does anyone even take this?  The duration reduction is a little bit of a nerf, but removing the crash is a huge buff

 

Ice Armor:

Hibernate: Straight Buff

Icicles: Cold is resisted less than Lethal, so straight buff

Rime: Has potential, and more options are always good

 

Radiation Armor:

Ok, I'll give you this one, but Ground Zero hitting more than 16 enemies before sounds more like a bugfix than a nerf

 

Regeneration:

It's complicated, but it looks like it will be a buff overall

 

So yeah, tank armor changes have been almost all buffs this patch.

[Erratic1]

3 minutes ago, Psyonico said:

EA getting nerfed on other ATs is no bearing on Tanks being nerfed.

 

I responded to your questioning my assertion that BRUTES  had been buffed. What you quoted of me makes no mention of Tankers.  Here, let me remind you:

 

Quote

You could perhaps show where Brutes have been buffed? I must have missed it.

 

Not seeing Tanker there.