Signature Summons- Time to update?

[Spectress]

10 mil is way overpriced, imo, for something that could just be free of charge nowadays.

 

Description

This power will summon one of 4 powerful allies to aid you in combat. When summoned, your signature ally will be an Elite Boss and last for 4 minutes.

 

How to Get

Available from P2W Vendor for 10,000,000 Inf for 5 charges. You may purchase up to 99 charges.

Edited August 11 by Spectress

[Lunar Ronin]

Considering how powerful the signature summons are (just look at some old pylon tests lol ), by absolutely no means should they be free.  Homecoming already gives away too much and streamlines too much.

[Spectress]

maybe just make us a customizable companion from AE then... My thing is that soloing can be really fun and relaxing but not all builds perform at the same efficiency level and all in doing such things- with our current bountiful Homecoming world, I think I should be able to. Thanks for weighing in, everyone!

[mistagoat]

One person soloing with a free sig summon is no big deal but if they were free EVERYONE would be running with a sig summon out. Teams would consist of 8 players and 8 sig summons. This would destroy any semblance of balance we currently have and make all team content trivial. For those reasons I can't get on board with free sig summons.

 

Amps, base buffs and the freebee damage procs (from START) can go a long way to making lower damage ATs more palatable to solo. Blackwand, Nem Staff, Sands of Mu and Envenomed Daggers are also a pretty great attack powers that allow you to have a nearly full rotation of decent damage powers on any AT*.

 

*at lower levels at least, by 20ish your main powers will probably replace those

Edited August 11 by mistagoat

[Spectress]

9 minutes ago, mistagoat said:

One person soloing with a free sig summon is no big deal but if they were free EVERYONE would be running with a sig summon out. Teams would consist of 8 players and 8 sig summons. This would destroy any semblance of balance we currently have and make all team content trivial. For those reasons I can't get on board with free sig summons.

 

Amps, base buffs and the freebee damage procs (from START) can go a long way to making lower damage ATs more palatable to solo. Blackwand, Nem Staff, Sands of Mu and Envenomed Daggers are also a pretty great attack powers that allow you to have a nearly full rotation of decent damage powers on any AT.

I agree- perhaps it would be better to leave the signature summons alone and find another way for me to have fun soloing... but still, i find 10 mil to be a lot.

Anyway- just to highlight the value of adding such a thing like a companion from AE that is customizable(might seem extravagant) ...

as someone who enjoys support- I already know I could do +4/8x if only I had a tank type or really any other entity about as strong as meself. 

and that about sums up all that i'm trying to say- if we could have something like that, then soloing would become so much more doable... and companions could be restricted to solo play, for ease.. or available on teams/leagues, that would be up to the pros as it would require a bunch of specification

 

Edited August 11 by Spectress

[mistagoat]

4 minutes ago, Spectress said:

I agree- perhaps it would be better to leave the signature summons alone and find another way for me to have fun soloing... but still, i find 10 mil to be a lot.

Anyway- just to highlight the value of adding such a thing like a companion from AE that is customizable(might seem extravagant) ...

as someone who enjoys support- I already know I could do +4/8x if only I had a tank type or really any other entity about as strong as meself. 

and that about sums up all that i'm trying to say- if we could have something like that, then soloing would become so much more doable... and companions could be restricted to solo play, for ease.. or available on teams/leagues, that would be up to the pros as it would require a bunch of specification

 

I'm a big Controller Stan myself, while this won't address all the points you mentioned, consider playing the new Pyrotechnic set if you haven't yet. It has a power called Glittering Column (lvl 6) that is basically a short duration tank that explodes when it's done. It doesn't last too long but it lasts long enough to get a spawn under control with your other powers. 

 

Beyond that, I get where you're coming from and perhaps something could be made that was some sort of temp power that was only available while solo as you mentioned.

[Spectress]

9 minutes ago, mistagoat said:

I'm a big Controller Stan myself, while this won't address all the points you mentioned, consider playing the new Pyrotechnic set if you haven't yet. It has a power called Glittering Column (lvl 6) that is basically a short duration tank that explodes when it's done. It doesn't last too long but it lasts long enough to get a spawn under control with your other powers. 

 

Beyond that, I get where you're coming from and perhaps something could be made that was some sort of temp power that was only available while solo as you mentioned.

Just got my pyrotech dom to 50... love the new set!

Edited August 11 by Spectress

[Oklahoman]

1 hour ago, Spectress said:

but still, i find 10 mil to be a lot.

 

It is, and maybe that needs to be looked at. Either a smaller cost or a longer duration.

[Darmian]

There's the Backup Radio too.  Yeah, it's not a Sig Summons level NPC but it's still back up!

 

As for the Summons NPCs themselves?  I'd like to see a wider variety of them rather than the huddled few we have. And no, I've no issue with the cost.

 

 

[JKCarrier]

Probably not feasible, but how cool would it be if you could purchase the ability to summon one of your own alts? Kinda like dual-boxing, but the computer would handle the other guy for you.

[MTeague]

For a zero-influence option, there's always the Shivan Shard available in Bloody Bay.  My Mind Controller picks one up on a regular basis, so even low DPS builds can totally nab them. You just have to weaken-but-not-kill the firebase turrets, and then when they're all low, you zip around popping each one in rapid fire. 

 

Technically you're at risk for being pvp ganked when you go to Bloody Bay, but on both Excelsior and Everlasting I've never been attacked in Bloody Bay. Not ONCE in years.

[Darmian]

1 minute ago, MTeague said:

Technically you're at risk for being pvp ganked when you go to Bloody Bay, but on both Excelsior and Everlasting I've never been attacked in Bloody Bay. Not ONCE in years.

And they're the BIGGER shards.  

 

[lemming]

On the PvP shards, the only time I had issues was on Excel, and it was very rare.  

 

10m is a bit much, I don't bother because that seems to be my threshold for overpriced items, but I could easily.  I probably still wouldn't use them much if they were cheaper, but that's just me.

 

I like the idea of more variety.

[Lunar Ronin]

If you want a solo-friendly support character, try a Mastermind.

[Aracknight]

I'd pay 10 mil for the AE customizable "summon a buddy" power mentioned above.  That's a damn fine idea.  Bonus points if i can use commands to make it talk or do emotes and stuff.  Checks my roleplayer box.

Edited August 11 by Aracknight

[srmalloy]

7 hours ago, mistagoat said:

*at lower levels at least, by 20ish your main powers will probably replace those

Except for some characters, for which you can get some amusement from them — I have a Rad/Dark tank who, when she got the Sands of Mu temp power from a mission, was able to make a full rotation from Shadow Maul, the START Sands of Mu, and the temp Sands of Mu. Almost made me want to get Flurry just to round out the set. 

[Major_Decoy]

6 hours ago, MTeague said:

Technically you're at risk for being pvp ganked when you go to Bloody Bay, but on both Excelsior and Everlasting I've never been attacked in Bloody Bay. Not ONCE in years.

I took Bad Decisions Man out to Warburg for a respec. I sat there, I read each power, and decided what to take and how to slot it all out in the open. I was horribly disappointed that not one person attacked me.

[MTeague]

1 hour ago, Major_Decoy said:

I took Bad Decisions Man out to Warburg for a respec. I sat there, I read each power, and decided what to take and how to slot it all out in the open. I was horribly disappointed that not one person attacked me.

Maybe they thought it was a trap / you were bait?

[Glacier Peak]

Best Signature Summon for your 10 million inf (if DPS is your goal) is Lord Recluse thanks to his ability to summon pets, followed by Black Scorpion, then Scirocco:

 

[ZeeHero]

Does it still summon Statesman? that'd be funny, necromancy even LOL

[Laucianna]

14 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

Best Signature Summon for your 10 million inf (if DPS is your goal) is Lord Recluse thanks to his ability to summon pets, followed by Black Scorpion, then Scirocco:

 

ST DPS yes, Recluse is top, but for AoE DPS it's defo Statesman, honestly just go the Tank sig summon, ignore the others, and you will be Gucci 💛 They should 100% not be free and I think the 10m prize point is perfectly fine as they are a way for people with too much money to sink money into something that can help a ton in certain areas, the game needs money sinks with how easy it is to make influence, otherwise we will all be sat on billions with nothing to spend it on 😄 

[LightMaster]

6 hours ago, ZeeHero said:

Does it still summon Statesman? that'd be funny, necromancy even LOL

Given the “echo” visual effect on the summoned signatures, I can assume it is his spirit coming back from the afterlife to help out, if temporarily, and ends up pulling back to the afterlife. Or an alternative universe Statesman that is still alive and can only help for a while before forcefully returning to his own world.

 

Also I noticed that he and Lord Recluse are the Tank Signatures but deals the most damage in AoE and ST respectively, more than the Melee Signatures. I can underatand Statesman to reflect Tankers’ specialization on AoE nowadays, but Lord Recluse having the tankiness on top of summoning a loyal minion akin to a Mastermind is hilariously overpowered, at least in ST department.

[ZeeHero]

Recluse is an MM, just the most hillariously OP MM ever

[Glacier Peak]

6 hours ago, Laucianna said:

ST DPS yes, Recluse is top, but for AoE DPS it's defo Statesman, honestly just go the Tank sig summon, ignore the others, and you will be Gucci 💛 They should 100% not be free and I think the 10m prize point is perfectly fine as they are a way for people with too much money to sink money into something that can help a ton in certain areas, the game needs money sinks with how easy it is to make influence, otherwise we will all be sat on billions with nothing to spend it on 😄 

Wait where is your fancy table with data on AoE DPS for each signature summon! 😁

[Spectress]

So as post author I get to sum up all the fantastic things I've learned in my post, I feel.

I am really happy about the outcome of the post as many people have replied/commented and it's cool! Thanks.

And I get to mention the AE companion 1 more time without starting a whole new post about it.

Most seem to think the sig summons are fine- however the AE companion would make them much more reasonable the way that they are(at 10mil) from my view by giving us something else(better) awesome to enjoy our solo adventures or fill that hole in the party- while also making use of the already wondrous AE system.- but making them only available when solo would also be fine if that's possible yk?

I always spend my millions on my alts, so I never have extra anything. I sell all of my prismatic aether at this point even.

 

We don't need a whole team to each player like in GW1- imo.. just 1 would do per player. "AE Sidekick" "AE Data Collector" something like that

 

My best!

 

Edited Monday at 06:36 AM by Spectress