Multiple Auras

[Chris24601]

All I want is to be able to keep my ACCUHUD on my hi-tech while also having a real* aura effect for their incarnate-tier costume.

 

* Seriously, it’s a slightly animated costume part like the new Clockwork hand. It could easily be a head detail.

 

[Veratai]

On 8/14/2024 at 7:27 AM, TheMoneyMaker said:

Most of them have options to choose from, depending on which aura you might have some options limited while others have most areas available and can even select right or left or both hands

ye plenty to choose from.. i would just like another passive aura slot xD

[yakko51]

Thank you for the suggestions. I have a scrapper with Dark Armour and all the auras on hid my costume. I went to the tailor and under Primary/Secondary powers selected Dark Armour which opened a menu for all or for each. I changed the overall set to minimum effects and for each power I did a 'Apply to all' in the lightest color they have. Now I can see my character more clearly vs. this dark smokey blob.

[nekkidtruth]

On 10/28/2019 at 5:21 PM, Number Six said:

Certainly doable. I was playing around the other night and did this as a silly proof of concept. Took a few hours because I had to rework the database schema to remove the hard limit on 30 costume pieces and fix the absolutely awful way they were stored in the database, but now we can add as many as we want so that opens up a lot of options.

 

As you can see taking things too far makes the UI a little... difficult to see... so some careful thought will have to be placed into the best way to have maximum flexibility and still have it be usable. Maybe splitting off path auras into a separate slot for starters. Ideas are welcome.

 

 

Just wondering if this is still something on the radar? It's been 84 years (*smirk*).

 

While I appreciate the spiel about "quality" and "taking our time" we tend to see a lot of when asking for these types of things, I think it's safe to say we're long passed due for something like this. We know it's possible. The devs here know it's possible. It's a super easy (yes, it really is) awesome thing to add for the players. What's the hold up?

 

This combined with adding other effects to Spectrum (such as allowing patterns to be applied to it, different effects etc) is just such a silly super easy addition that opens up enough customization to rival the current options as a whole! For the record, just having a second Aura option is sufficient for opening up so many different variations. 30 is certainly borderline insanity 😉

 

Please help us understand why we can't have these things. I'm genuinely curious.

Edited February 1 by nekkidtruth

[nekkidtruth]

Sorry

Edited February 1 by nekkidtruth
Some reason it posted multiple times...

[nekkidtruth]

Again...

Edited February 1 by nekkidtruth
Duplicate post (is there an issue with the forums?)

[arcane]

12 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said:

 

Just wondering if this is still something on the radar? It's been 84 years (*smirk*).

 

While I appreciate the spiel about "quality" and "taking our time" we tend to see a lot of when asking for these types of things, I think it's safe to say we're long passed due for something like this. We know it's possible. The devs here know it's possible. It's a super easy (yes, it really is) awesome thing to add for the players. What's the hold up?

 

This combined with adding other effects to Spectrum (such as allowing patterns to be applied to it, different effects etc) is just such a silly super easy addition that opens up enough customization to rival the current options as a whole! For the record, just having a second Aura option is sufficient for opening up so many different variations. 30 is certainly borderline insanity 😉

 

Please help us understand why we can't have these things. I'm genuinely curious.

The devs themselves probably disagree with me and are fine with it but just haven’t got to it yet. But personally I hope they don’t add free secondary auras because I think it would further devalue the lovely Tier 3 Prismatic Aether Effects they graciously gave us.

[nekkidtruth]

1 minute ago, arcane said:

The devs themselves probably disagree with me and are fine with it but just haven’t got to it yet. But personally I hope they don’t add free secondary auras because I think it would further devalue the lovely Tier 3 Prismatic Aether Effects they graciously gave us.

 

I'm not a huge fan of how that system turned out, personally. I would have much preferred the option for a second aura to be included in the current character creator, and the Prismatic Aether effects to be assignable to specific limbs or body parts through their grindy system. However, I would argue that the server freely gives out all sorts of things but chose to lock a version of this particular feature behind something grindy. I'm not really a fan of that kind of hypocrisy. At the very least, I personally think the PA cost is still much too high.

[arcane]

1 hour ago, nekkidtruth said:

At the very least, I personally think the PA cost is still much too high.

I simply can’t buy this anymore, now that Prismatic Aether prices are at an all time low. It now costs waaay less than a character’s IO build to buy a T3 Aether item (<50% if you do full builds with purples and boosters), and I simply don’t buy that the average player is struggling to fund IO’s for alts in Homecoming. Extensive experience with both the game and the forums indicates that level of cost is very much manageable.

Edited February 1 by arcane

[nekkidtruth]

13 minutes ago, arcane said:

I simply can’t buy this anymore, now that Prismatic Aether prices are at an all time low. It now costs waaay less than a character’s IO build to buy a T3 Aether item (<50% if you do full builds with purples and boosters), and I simply don’t buy that the average player is struggling to fund IO’s for alts in Homecoming. Extensive experience with both the game and the forums indicates that level of cost is very much manageable.

 

You're of course welcome to your opinion, but that's all it is. Just because it costs less, doesn't mean it's not overpriced. Eggs cost less than they did a month ago, but they're still overpriced.

 

Regardless, I actually completely forgot you could buy PA's (which really only validates the point of just making it available by default in the creator).  PA's were a completely unnecessary currency addition to the game and just as with other MMO's who want to make new currencies for things, it simply adds bloat.

 

Anyway, take care.

[Starhammer]

My personal preference for additional auras would be to have each costume location have it's own aura option. Yeah, I know that's a lot of UI to overhaul. Of course if the UI were to be overhauled, each costume location could also have an option to overlay a second costume piece, so we could do things like make new hairstyles by combining two existing hair styles, Or have barbarian bracers combined with fingerless gloves. Frankly, I'd love to see the entire costume creator UI get a complete overhaul and re-sort. Too many options that are locked out of compatibility with other options, like putting hats on Lizard heads, or goat horns on lion heads, or ear muffs as ear options.

[EDIT:] In relation to the Prismatic Aether prices, I wholeheartedly agree the advanced tiers cost vastly too much. I don't want to grind Dr Aeon SFs on 5 star over and over and over. I knpow that's some people's cup o' tea, but not mine. But at 250 PAs for a mini-mode or a Spines aura (for a non Spines character), even at 1.6 million for PAs on the AH, that's still around 400 million inf (a 5th of the cap) for a purely cosmetic effect. I have hungry alts to feed. I don't have that kind of game money sitting around.

Edited February 6 by Starhammer

[Rudra]

4 minutes ago, Starhammer said:

Frankly, I'd love to see the entire costume creator UI get a complete overhaul and re-sort.

If past is precedent, this will break pretty much everyone's costumes in all costume slots for every character. Every time I saw a costume creator overhaul, admittedly in CO, I had to go back and fix my characters. (Just like power set overhauls did.)

[Starhammer]

3 minutes ago, Rudra said:

If past is precedent, this will break pretty much everyone's costumes in all costume slots for every character. Every time I saw a costume creator overhaul, admittedly in CO, I had to go back and fix my characters. (Just like power set overhauls did.)

You're right of course. And that sucks. And I have over 600 alts, many of whom have 3 or more costumes I would have to edit. And I'd still rather have to start over with something significantly better and vastly more options and have to re-edit each and every one of them.

[biostem]

Maybe they could implement some sort of mutually-exclusive auras, so we can have more than 1, just not all at the same time - like out of combat vs in-combat, or no travel powers on vs one active.

[nekkidtruth]

On 2/6/2025 at 2:20 AM, biostem said:

Maybe they could implement some sort of mutually-exclusive auras, so we can have more than 1, just not all at the same time - like out of combat vs in-combat, or no travel powers on vs one active.

 

Not really what I'm looking for. I *want* both auras on at once.

[biostem]

2 hours ago, nekkidtruth said:

Not really what I'm looking for. I *want* both auras on at once.

I get it, but if there's some limitation that prevents 2 auras being active simultaneously, then my suggestion is a way to get more than 1, whilst working within the system.  Saying "Not really what I'm looking for" is irrelevant, if the suggestion isn't feasible.

[nekkidtruth]

54 minutes ago, biostem said:

I get it, but if there's some limitation that prevents 2 auras being active simultaneously, then my suggestion is a way to get more than 1, whilst working within the system.  Saying "Not really what I'm looking for" is irrelevant, if the suggestion isn't feasible.

 

I understand what you're saying, but we've already established there isn't a limitation. In fact, if you look back the dev showed several auras on at the same time. So it is entirely relevant. I'm asking for 2.

[Veratai]

On 2/9/2025 at 4:16 AM, nekkidtruth said:

 

I understand what you're saying, but we've already established there isn't a limitation. In fact, if you look back the dev showed several auras on at the same time. So it is entirely relevant. I'm asking for 2.

I'm also still interested in having two auras to choose on a character.. but at this point i am not sure if the devs want that..

haven't played CoH in a while either

[Blastit]

Two aura options sounds good to me. Being able to pick one eye option and a separate body option would be huge.

[TheMoneyMaker]

if I had to guess, since the possibility of adding more auras was established awhile back, I'm guessing that there's no desire to go forward with the idea. Maybe because it would render many of the extra aura options gained through prismatic aethers pointless and no one would spend 250 of them for each aura obtained.

[golstat2003]

On 2/6/2025 at 12:12 AM, Starhammer said:

You're right of course. And that sucks. And I have over 600 alts, many of whom have 3 or more costumes I would have to edit. And I'd still rather have to start over with something significantly better and vastly more options and have to re-edit each and every one of them.

I would not. I’d prefer they didn’t break all my characters costumes. they can adjust the aura menu only to add extra aura UI.

[golstat2003]

On 2/8/2025 at 10:16 PM, nekkidtruth said:

 

I understand what you're saying, but we've already established there isn't a limitation. In fact, if you look back the dev showed several auras on at the same time. So it is entirely relevant. I'm asking for 2.

hmmmm a dev would have to comment but the fact that this has not been done since it was requested in freaking 2019 makes me think there are some technical limitations that they ran into when they dogged deeper into it. In that post the dev did say they already saw some UI issues. Would not surprise me if they found other limitations with how infamously bad and spaghetti COX’s ancient code is.

[nekkidtruth]

6 hours ago, golstat2003 said:

hmmmm a dev would have to comment but the fact that this has not been done since it was requested in freaking 2019 makes me think there are some technical limitations that they ran into when they dogged deeper into it. In that post the dev did say they already saw some UI issues. Would not surprise me if they found other limitations with how infamously bad and spaghetti COX’s ancient code is.

 

🙄 Whatever issue/limitation was easily overcome elsewhere (and before the dev here even attempted it after it was requested). I'm sorry but these B.S. excuses just don't cut it anymore.

 

 

Edited Sunday at 10:04 PM by nekkidtruth

[nekkidtruth]

23 hours ago, TheMoneyMaker said:

if I had to guess, since the possibility of adding more auras was established awhile back, I'm guessing that there's no desire to go forward with the idea. Maybe because it would render many of the extra aura options gained through prismatic aethers pointless and no one would spend 250 of them for each aura obtained.

 

I recently went on the test server to see what these auras were, thinking they were going to be super customizable based on the wiki's description: 

 

Complete waste of time and Prismatic Aethers. I won't be buying PA's and I probably won't bother to waste any I've collected on those auras. They're literally only color customizable. I was expecting to maybe be able to set them like the regular aura, nope. Maybe, and this is a BIG maybe, if they were unlocked on all characters whenever you purchased one, I'd bother. Maybe.

 

So if that is the reason, it seems absolutely bonkers to me that Homecoming shies away from such ridiculously easy wins such as adding another aura or other costume options like allowing patterns on Spectrum. There's no money being made here....someone needs to give their head a shake.

Edited Sunday at 10:06 PM by nekkidtruth

[arcane]

29 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said:

 

They're literally only color customizable.

Literally false btw