WanderingAries

Shhh, we don't talk about Disney's slave labor tactics. That's back in the pre-Joy-Joy days. 😉

Finally got a response and apparently this is what we're dealing with. So basically, we could probably do this with a multi-core potato. 😛 The email does mention that this is only One of the resource intensive apps, but I'm assuming the rest will likely be in the same realm of requirements, or at least in the build recommendation scope. https://www.stata.com/products/compatible-operating-systems/ Stata requires 64-bit Windows for x86-64 processors made by Intel® or AMD (Core i3 equivalent or better) Disk Space: 2 Gb RAM: 4 Gb Stata/MP can perform calculations in parallel on 2 to 64 cores App is I/O intensive No specifics for GPUs So yeah, whatever I had in mind is perfectly fine, but since the app is I/O intensive, then I'm going to highly encourage the dedicated SSD for the app / cache data. Something that I figured would be a thing considering the nature of the app. Again, I figure they might play Civ7 on it too (unless they choose to use the new XB I got them for that), so I'll still keep that into account. I'm still not solid on the GPU, but I'm only being held back by the fact that the 7900 XTX doesn't have the newer stuff and the 4090 apparently runs circles around it. What I'll likely suggest is to keep their current GPU for now as that'll keep the initial build cost at bay considering the CPU has an APU that can also be used for now. I think I'll still suggest getting the updated PSU to cover the future GPU upgrade and avoid the hassle of needing to swap it later.

Yeah, from the sounds of it, it hit the coast and fell apart. I think the East Coast tornados probably caused most the damage.

We apparently have "LT Dan" who's in Tampa. IDK HOW he survived though. I've seen some vids (TikTok?) before and after. And apparently that person who straps their roof during these is likely fine. The concept and execution of that was sound and they weren't reportedly at risk for flooding (similar to us), so no boarding beyond what was done was needed.

I've not looked at actual reports yet, but I imagine that many are going to need help for sure.

Yeah, that was mostly about perhaps limiting things, but the wind likely would have ripped the tarps to shreds where I'd considered putting them. I gotta figure out how to put this "under the overhang" siding back up as the very edge of the carport had a couple come loose. These roofs are built in that they're essentially open air for some reason. They have these spinal vents along the ridges and where the roof overhangs, the underside is ventilated. IDK how that affects winds / pressure changes, but it's weird vs houses in the north. There was no chance of flooding as we're literally in the center of the east / west coasts and surrounded in forest. Well, there is a manmade lake behind the house, but it would take a month straight of rain for that to get close. As for today, no power for 13 hrs. Worst we had before was like 4 days I think, but we don't have dad anymore, so no medical equipment concerns. We also don't have a generator, but have lived in places where we'd get hit with typhoons or blizzards, so going without for extended periods (and buying in bulk) aren't new things. While everyone was wrecking the various shopping centers, we're sitting here topping off regular groceries. >.<

Whelp, got 5 hours of work done before the stores started to close (I travel the area for work). Now I've got everything charging and pondering if I should bother tarping the cars, porch, etc.

Meanwhile, stuff this is on my Local feed 😛 All the chickens have drank all the gas on their way north and others must have thought they were allowed some to do the lawn because I'm seeing random people and lawn service companies mowing the bloody grass everywhere. I'm not salty, but the ground might be tomorrow.

Ah, bit behind on following that then I see. K

Looks like this would be the place to go for Mids now as they appear to have a Discord and everything. I don't think that Manga has any ties to that project, but they Are generally a Mac Guru overall.

I can't think of it being "that hard" and replacing Prestige Might be the easiest way to go (unless they're keeping that just in case), but I imagine that some SG lists might start looking a bit smaller than what they seem at first glance once all the Alts become more obvious.

With all the time I've spent relearning things while trying to help with that other build, I've been side-building my own system's parts list as well. It really helped narrow things down a bit. Here's the basic parts list as I'm not going to bother putting all the various fans, etc that I have in the system right now. I did find out that my existing case limits AIOs to 240 though, so unless I change cases, the liquid option for the CPU cooler isn't Actually compatible in that SKU. As it stands, there's not going to be Too much of a difference in the two builds aside from the GPU and PSU most likely as I won't need a newer GPU anytime soon. Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E For my purposes, I may consider the X870-E for the USB 4, but I'm nowhere near budget ready on this, so I'll leave it be for now. CPU AMD Ryzen 9 7950X This seems to be the best of the series for general productivity without the hassle of dealing with "core parking" and the other setup concerns. Otherwise, I was looking at the 9950x originally. CPU Cooler AIR Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE This seems to be the most popular with great value and no RGB AIO ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Only like 50% more than the Air Cooler, but if I use it in this case, then I'll lose the top 2x200mm exhaust fans and I've not looked into the cooling balance that would impact. RAM G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30-40-40-96 This is where I've learned the most actually as I was still going by the old adage of "lowest CL, ignore the other numbers". Then I looked into builds that have the CPU and found out that the stability sweet spot for DDR5 is the 6000. It seems that the total timings should now be looked at as well, so while there may not be a noticeable difference between CAS 28, 30, 32. The timings range does matter. So having the middle numbers as close to the first, while also being the same as each other, makes for more stable RAM. The lower the last number the better of course, but there doesn't seem to be much of a choice in that one. GPU EVGA FTW3 ULTRA GAMING iCX3 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB I may actually look into testing the visual performance of just the APU initially, but I did buy this card to serve as my last EVGA card and probably the last one I'd really need anytime soon since I don't Really game on the computer anymore. I Do need to get through my backlog, but those are mostly old games.

I whittled down the parts list even more after learning a bit more about modern RAM. I didn't realize that the one option was Actually for Intel and after looking into things further, the choice was clear for price vs performance (w/ brand preference). Now if busy-bee will get back with me, then I can narrow down the GPU / cooling requirements and move onto conserving parts (use existing components) and/or case choice.

Heh, read the title and the first thing to pop into my head was "They come in Pints?!?" as it's SOOOO easy to spend an hour or more on the costume, Bio, etc.

This came to mind when the whole things started up in the media: Also: "Where am I? Vietnam?!?" /s Obligatory: *Acme hook pulls Aries AFK before more can be posted*

STILL waiting for the requirements list, but (within the restrictions of the site) I think I've whittled down the parts Range. Except for the storage, anything with more than one thing listed is an indication of a choice to be made (based on requirements / suggestions). The biggest unknown right now is the GPU as IDK how important it'll be in the workload, so unless AMD comes out with a revised XTX that brings in where it's currently lacking vs the 4080 S, then I'm keeping the Nvidia cards on the table as it were. Again, we're still in design phase, so pricing is being ignored as of right now. I threw in some LC components, but I'll have to learn how that affects physically building in cases. IDK what case they have right now, but I know that mine has plenty of space for AIOs (if I yank out half the fans). I'm just not sure how airflow works with them. Something that I've been keeping in the back of my mind, however, is that there are accessories / often forgotten components that should be taken into consideration. Specifically, GPU stability brackets and CPU thermal pads. I've even considered looking into redoing my CPU with a thermal pad (or just using one in the next build) for the simplicity of not having to guess about how to apply paste (and my paste is Really old now both in system and the toolbox). The GPU stand consideration will depend on the case used I'm sure, but the back of my mind also seems to think there's a slot-side bracket that may exist to allow that end to be more secured. IE: a replacement bracket that extends the mounting to 3-4 slots wide. A list of considerations: CPU KryoSheet No more mess! Thermalright AM5 CPU Contact Frame No guessing on mounting, but may affect cooler installation(?) GPU ASUS ROG Herculx Graphics Card Anti-Sag Holder Bracket I like that this has a built-in level! EZDIY-FAB GPU Holder Brace A less flashy option with an interesting design difference SSD Minus Pad 8 Probably sufficient Minus Pad Extreme IDK how much 'performance' you'll get with these over anything else as the price is quite up there vs the standard even

Heh, once I started using the Logitech mice that have "Dark Field" tech, I don't need anything but a surface. They'll even work on glass (tested!).

Something I'm sure many forget, until they see the title. (not my vid, but the one I found years later)

Yeah, I cut out the idea for the 7950x3D and 9950x because of all the added work that I'm not sure they'd want to deal with (or me try to explain and I've been reading about chip fraud now). Definitely won't be doing an OC. Never have actually unless you count RAM, but that's because of how it's designed (it's always overclocked to get the quoted speeds). I'm going to draft a "Current Build" / "Build Requirements" form and send it off this week so that I can get something more concrete. Maybe then the choice of PSU / GPU would be much easier. I'm thinking since longevity is a concern, then 850W~1kW will likely be the aim there, but I'm hoping a 30 series or AMD equivalent (if the better choice) might be an option that'll keep the budgets friendlier.

Try closing down anything Else running in the background (other game launchers, browser, etc) and see if it happens with just the game and basic taskbar stuff. If it Doesn't do it, then something else might be pushing the resources. If it Still does it, then that diagnostic data would be good to have for a ticket.

Still haven't received any new info, but I threw together some basics and started running into confusion over parts like "air cool vs AIO", "how efficient should the PSU be?", and many other things that stem from not having a fully fleshed out concept. Based on pushing the clock out for longevity's sake (kinda wants another 10+ year build). I settled on the 7950x when trying to sort out if it was worth suggesting the x3D or 9950x. I think I started mentally mixing my own wish list as I was looking at things as well, so that wasn't helping. One knowledge hurdle is not understanding AMD GPUs fully (vs Nvidia), so when I briefly looked into cards that would fit well with the CPU choice, I about had a migraine as I also didn't know how much vRAM would be needed or the like. Trying to sort through PSUs and CPU air coolers was a PITA as well. Storage wise, I've templated out the FireCuda 540 ~2 Tb for the primary and an 8 Tb Baracuda / Exos for storage or backup drive. Even on my 3770k though, I've been using SSD for my active data drive, so that made me start looking at the 4x M.2 slot boards as those would allow for a primary drive, data drive, scratch drive, etc. without sacrificing speed or needing a ton of SATA ports. Granted, the more I started looking into That (and all of the above), the higher the budget starts going, but unless we start shucking $2k GPUs, then I don't think that'll be a problem anyway. I guess the biggest hurdle right now is not knowing the system requirements for the core software being used because IDK what it is and IDK if I'm allowed to due to the possibility of needing a Security Clearance. I don't think the latter is an issue since it's a home machine, but I always have to keep things in mind like that.

*pokes* @Hyperstrike @GM Tock

Yeah...that's what's going on. Right! >.> <.<

I think them not being targetable is what keeps them from being killed