Aracknight

I guess I'm looking at it through the view of the lens that asks "Would it make it more fun" combined with "We survived getting 3-4 Powers back when they made Fitness inherent, so what's the big deal?" I see and respect your point though, and thanks for giving specific examples.

I personally felt like the (far easier to get on HC) Incarnate system, combined with the (far easier to get on HC) fully "purpled out" builds are what tipped the scale more than the power relaxations. I remember having to farm council missions on +4x8 to save up >2 billion inf for an enhancement I had to buy from a player, not on the market, that I can now get for 10-20 million or a hundred merits (also easier to get o HC) today. I'm pretty sure it was a Gladiator's Armor Teleportation/Def PVP IO back when you could only get those in PVP zones. Blah blah blah, get off my lawn, etc, I know. But anyway, that's how I feel, anecdotally, about what let the horses out of the barn balance wise. Edit: which means I basically agree with your last point about the ease of making a build I guess.

If I can have the knees I had in 2003, I'm fucking in.

I kinda sorta incredibly like the idea of the first three powers in any pools (Power, Travel, Epic, Ancillary, Patron whatever) being available at T-1. Hell, extend it to Primary and Secondary, since we already got a choice to take either t-1 or t2 in the secondary recently (Being forced to take Thunder Kick on my Tanker annoyed me greatly, so thanks to whoever fixed that). First because I like the idea, second because I hate taking powers that don't even make it into my toolbar (Looking at you, Boxing), and third because think of all the people who'd shut the fuck up about it if we got it. We could end the war and save thousands of lives lol. I get the balance concern. I get the power creep concern. I get both these things as a general conceptual idea, however, in my specific application, not having to take a power, that I will never use, that i will not be getting a slot back for, to take another one-slot wonder like Fly or Warrior's Challenge doesn't seem to tip the scales, balance wise. All it would mean is that I could fly without spending inf on a jetpack (maybe, I'd have to count my power pools), or taunt a single target running away instead of shooting them in the back with one of my epic/patron powers. I'm not saying it couldn't be unbalanced by people more clever than I, I'm just not seeing it in my specific application, which is probably why I am so much in favor of it. YMMV.

We all have bad days. We all have strong beliefs, and we all want what's best for the game. Thank you for your grace. See you around the city.

I'm sorry I made you feel that way.

Which is why I said most of it wasn't aimed at you. I apologize if I did not make that clear enough. Your sentence was interesting to me, and I riffed off it. Coming up with a way for both sides to either get or keep what they want via a change is a greater way to deal with this, which I can absolutely agree with.

While preventing others from making their preferred builds. To me, the idea that a change is bad because it would affect one side's personal preferences isn't really fundamentally different than someone asking for a change that they think is good that would enable the other side's personal preferences. The key difference is that one side currently has the high ground known as the status quo, which is then used to bludgeon idea people into submission. This pattern is repeated ad infinitum every goddamn day. For fuck's sake, some of the denizens of this forum don't can't or won't even say "good idea." They say things like "I would not argue against this" instead. This is where the perception issues in this forum come from, because instead of saying "cool, I like it," they say shit like "I wouldn't oppose it" which can lend to the perception that they somehow control the outcome when it reads like an imperious form of "I would allow that." Stormwalker, the majority of this isn't aimed at you specifically. I just quoted your post because that specific sentence struck me as an interesting point that you made.

Oh look. Right on track. Idea, followed by shitting on idea in condescending fashion while quoting rule empowering shitting on idea in condescending fashion when questioned on why the shitting on idea in condescending fashion is happening. Thread devolution until next idea. Repeat. PS. I like the idea OP. Personally I think every set whether primary, secondary, or eighteenthiary should be balanced in this exact fashion. Snipe at x level. Status Resistance at x level. Build up at x level. But I'm monstrous like that.

Lol. "I thought all opinions mattered"

I'm pretty sure that's whataboutism.

Perhaps gatekeeping is the wrong term. I propose a new term, one we can use to keep from arguing the definition of the word and using that to invalidate the feelings of posters in the Suggestions and Feedback forum. The term I am suggesting will be Billying. Not to be confused with Bullying. Billying is best observed in the Adam Sandler movie Billy Madison. Here is an example of Billying: Random Poster: Hey you guys I love City of Heroes and I have this idea! S&F forumites: Poster, what you've just suggested is one of the most insanely idiotic things we have ever read. At no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. We reject your idea out of hand, and my god have mercy on your soul. Random Poster: Fuck, you could have just said no or nothing at all. City of Heroes fucking sucks.

If it were an auto or passive power i would see it more like Quickness from Super Reflexes.

If "everyone" uses hasten with enough recharge to get it perma, and puts it on autofire, wouldnt just making hasten a toggle "fix" this?

Can we add other flying minipets to this request like the ws/pb squid pets (for example)?

What happens to all the character names that this would churn through? Do they autodelete upon logoff if defeated? If so, doesnt remaking the same name skirt the rules? Wont, if you suck at this game, you all hit the perceived "all the good names are taken" wall faster?

Imo, given gamers and their fascination with pushing boundaries of rules, decorum, and common sense, such a creation would lead to meta-pvp where people would get set up to die, i.e. "accidentally" pulling too many mobs, dissolving teams when teammates are sidekicked and in an area their true level should have no business being in, and god forbid you enter an actual pvp zone. Presumably making 50 mean something again precludes exp boosters and not grouping for fast easy exp to get there, and with everyone slowly, inexorably giving in the paranoia of everything in the game trying to end their career, no more teams form, the alphas at the top start feeding on each other, and there's nothing left to do but dfb and street sweeping in Atlas Park. Congratulations, youve made love not warcraft.

This should go in the Suggestions forum where it can get the attention and evisceration it needs. No thank you.

Got 'em. Thanks for the tip.

Do you have to defeat them all on the same run or can you get some and repeat and get it that way?

Ps when i said 9 tier 9 powers would be insane, i meant in the bad, "this should not be "way. I feel like language betrayed me on this one. Sorry for any confusion.

I mean, if at x level i could choose a primary or secondary tier 1 power from whatever setand at the next level choose a tier 2 power, etc, that might be ok. Could mix up a nice batch of ranged and melee powers without "needing" an epic set. That could be fun. But no, 9 tier 9 powers would be insane