macskull

Are you talking in a farm situation here, or in normal content? In a farm situation the difference between a Tanker and Brute is negligible even at target saturation. In regular content you're not going to be at target saturation during most situations anyways. All the higher target cap is doing is helping the Tanker maintain aggro better.

All my testing given identical builds has shown that there is very little difference and switching to the Tanker didn't really speed me up.

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I do, but capped HP should be a build goal on a squishy no matter what type of PvP you're trying to do.

You should be shooting for HP cap (1606). Getting to within 20-30 of that is okay if you're having issues getting your build down but generally capped HP is going to make you more survivable.

The launch version of the game was very different than the post-invention-system game, and the game isn't balanced around IOs anyways.

IIRC most of the stuff that hasn't been proliferated yet is due to balance concerns (for example, Powerhouse has said fairly recently that Tankers won't get Energy Aura in its current form because it would be too good). I don't know how much stock I hold in that idea though, since some of the existing proliferation is ridiculous already (hello, Kin and Rad for MMs and Poison for Defenders).

Oh no, I'm not arguing for that at all. Hell, I barely pay attention to what sets people are if I'm trying to round out the last 1-3 slots for a speed TF/SF because as long as the person at the keyboard is somewhat intelligent the build doesn't really matter... and if they're not, hey, veng bait. What does annoy me is something like, say, having an Empathy Defender on the team who has all the buffs and just follows the tank around spamming unnecessary heals while ignoring the rest of the team. Unfortunately there's no way to address something like that beforehand, only a player rating system that is somewhat clunky.

I don't mind the ability to see other peoples' power picks. I'll be honest - if I'm inviting a random person to the team looking at their power picks is maybe the best at-a-glance option I have to see if they'll be an asset or a liability. Sure, you might be a great player who just happens to be playing on a petless MM because you want the challenge, but if I don't know you that's not a risk I'm willing to take.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the existing system.

Shit, mini is back?

It's been identified since pretty much day one of the set existing that Willpower's taunt aura is bad. Invincibility is one of the better ones. Looking at the numbers from CoD it doesn't look like there's any difference in mag or duration between Scrappers, Tankers, and Brutes for those sets that have taunt auras. Punchvoke and new Gauntlet should mean that Tankers/Brutes will grab aggro more easily from a Scrapper though.

Scrapper Invincibility = 17 second mag 3 taunt. Tanker RttC = 1.25 second mag 3 taunt.

Ooooooookay then.

So are you saying that Scrappers aren't an AoE damage AT either?

So... almost every new Stalker melee set keeps all the AoE of its non-Stalker version and in some cases (hello, Staff Fighting and Elec Melee) the Stalker versions are better than the version every other AT gets - and with the changes to the way Stalker crits work on teams (plus the Stalker ATO procs) Stalkers absolutely are an AoE damage AT now. They're basically slightly squishier Scrappers that can crit on command. If you really wanted to, you could dip into the Presence pool on a Blaster, Defender, Sentinel, or whatever else, and given the right build, manage aggro, at least until a Tank/Brute/Kheld shows up and pulls mobs off with their more-effective taunting. Issue 18 blurred the lines between ATs when side-switching was introduced and it's been getting blurrier and blurrier ever since.

Scrappers also get the taunt component as part of the port. I've had at least two people quote me saying that it isn't shown ingame or in Mids and those people are correct - the ingame numbers and Mids often lack all the information about the power so you have to look in places like City of Data, which shows a 2.25s mag 3 taunt. This makes it one of the weaker taunt auras from any defensive set, but it is there.

Energy's Entropic Aura has a taunt component.

As I understand it enhancement converters only work on power-unique enhancements (like, I can't slot two LotG def/end pieces in any given power), so if enhancement converters were able to be used for Hami O's they would become power-unique as well. I don't know the technical background there since I am not familiar with the code but it would either require a significant rework of the enhancement converter system or you'd have to deal with not being able to slot duplicate Hami O's in a given power. That being said, I'd love it if converters worked on Hami/Titan/Hydra O's.

It's a lot more work and doesn't solve the problem.

The toggle itself doesn't drop (unless you get mezzed while it's animating but that's another can of worms), but the intangibility suppresses until the combat tick after the mez wears off.

1:08:30 Dr Q.

@Captain Powerhouse Any chance Phase Shift could get a pass while we're testing PvP changes? Toggle suppression isn't supposed to be a thing in PvP and right now the intangibility suppresses while mezzed which means that even if you manage to get it toggled on when you see the first attacks against you in your buff bar, if one of those attacks is a mez it's like you didn't even phase at all.

SR on Tankers and Brutes has a taunt aura (Evasion). It also has scaling resists to the point where if you're shoring up your numbers with set bonuses you become very hard to kill once you're below 15-20% health or so. SR also has about 95% def debuff resistance when slotted, EA gets about 65% outside of Overload.

My main since the game came back has been a Fire/Cold Corruptor which was on SOs for the first 4 or 5 months. I'm a proponent of SO balance because that is what the live devs repeatedly said the game was balanced against and because rebalancing the game around IOs would turn this game into a grind for loot (unless IOs were made free, which you know would never happen).