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I figured this out when the system out when I was 12 going on 13 whrn incarnates first came out. But I still think the system needs to be streamlined

But…but its a cosmetic…eh nevermind. back on topic, I didn’t see anyone earlier mention getting rid of kheld shapeshifting, just making human form you know, not a monkey shit pick.

So because they want a cosmetic option that has no effect on gameplay you’re malding? Say sike right now please

There’s a dichotomy within the CoH community. The discord, home of numbers, logic, and imo the best players in CoH or “experts” on a certain AT or playstyle, in this case Lauci, Wispur, and Doom who are the only kheld players I trust in the game. And the forums. More of a wild west of post, lots of ad hominem attacks, and uh…sometimes random cat or pizza post. *The forums ate my last well thought out post so this is what you get

I’m going to be nice and just ask, since these comments don’t exist, where are you getting this assessment from? Especially in this thread?

I can totally understand that. But as a person who has had limited time in the past(and soon to have limited time again in the future) I feel I’d rather just leave and not bother trying to control the other person’s play. I may gripe and make a note not to team with them in the future but I’m not going to go to the forums and call for a feature to be removed(removing or nerfing AE) because of them, then spiral and try and tell others how to play “the correct way”

I’m going to try and post my 4* Fire/Dark Corr tomorrow if I have time. I think you should take a look at that. *BTW im not saying your build looks bad. It’s got decent defenses but I think maybe mine might provide some new insights possibly.

That makes perfect sense to deal with. Absolutely kick those kind of players as they’re legit leeching for sure

It has to do with a lack of control in their real lives so they figure they could come here and try to control others without realizing they’re even MORE powerless here. A funny and sad situation all around to be sure. *Some will claim ad hominem blah blah blah but it’s really not. I’ve seen this type of behavior elsewhere IRL and the reasoning resembled my remark, and what’s happening here looks awfully familiar so…see a shovel call it a shovel and all that

I take offense to this. It’s CALLED a space lobster thank you very much 😤

Ooooh boy I’m gonna get dislikes but uhm. I don’t think other studios should look at what HC does and follow it. It took YEARS to get to the level of transparency we have now, and there’s still a mountain of work to do on that front. Case and point, only just now are they starting to put design goals on sets to better paint a picture of what they hope to accomplish with changes. Ff14 has been doing this for years. Also how HC handles sets to me seems too much like it was done in a spreadsheet and not what’s actually fun. Definitely not something other studios should copy. At first, HC to me was the beesknees, now? They’re alright. I mean they haven’t completely ruined the game which is great but they are in no way shape or form a shining beacon in the industry. Not even close.

I prefer the discord. Its where the best players in the game are readily available to provide accurate info that the forums has missed in the past, and provides bleeding edge info in real time as opposed to over several weeks

What servers are you all playing on that this happens so much? Sounds like Everlasting but I could be wrong. I don’t encounter leechers thankfully, but I also as of late don’t team much anymore when I do log on, so maybe its a bigger issue? But everyone’s coming up with highly contrived solutions to a problem that already has a solution, well two I guess if you go Shin’s route. Warn them, they get uppity then kick em. Life’s too short to deal with shit like this

No you haven’t

Hey look! One of em took the bait. But seriously, a PSA for everyone out there: for YOU it may be about the journey, and that’s awesome! But remember, this isn’t a terribly active MMO developmentally speaking. The beginning that you keep praising? 20 years old at this point. There aren’t that many new players I imagine who will look at it and go “oh boy this is great!” No, they’ll see how old and clunky and boring it is and either PL to 50 and run endgame/maybe some older stuff exemping, or quit.

You have got to be joking right. Please tell me you’re joking.

No its not. I and many others find it pretty fun. Definitely not possible with every toon and probably not as fun with maybe certain builds but overall its pretty neat.

No need, really. The farmers all know the nerfs to AE are the last that’ll come because they actually talk to the devs(I’m one of them that does) They’re not nerfing it further, so the farming BAD crowd are simply screaming at clouds. Why would farmers waste their time arguing with these people? The nerfs are done, and AE farming is at it will be for the forseeable future.

Always always ALWAYS make sure before joining an ITF that it’s a Kill Most(KM) +4x8 with a 50 in charge. Thats where the levels come in. Later when your 50 4* KM ITF gets a nice chunk of Inf, but most would rather speed those.

I get physically ill just thinking about playing on SOs and making a leveling build. Jokes aside, I make a build in mids chasing what I want then proceed to build it. I tried playing on SOs, got to about lvl 12. Couldn’t hack it and PL’ed the toon to 50 to get IOed out. Once you’ve gone and tanked ludicrous stuff with an IO’ed 50 its very hard to play…*shudders and points to SOs in disgust* that

Funny you mention this. I actually played the game normally from 1-50 on my primary account and got several 50s this way. One time was so shit and exhausting I took a sabbatical from CoH for 3-4 months. Playing normally is exhausting, and the only reason I still even make alts/play now is because of PL’ing. Ironic ain’t it?

The leveling experience is terrible. The game’s age really shows and its missions are absolute trash and thats putting it nicely. It is the worst leveling experience I have EVER experienced in any game I have ever played, and that’s including day 1 Diablo 4. But when you don’t play anything but CoH and or are blinded by nostalgia and a strange almost borderline sycophantic loyalty to either the ways of old or the game itself you get purist telling you “yOuR pLaYiNg wRoNg” when you want to skip the tedium. Edit: And another thing, I PL because I don’t always have a consistent schedule for gaming. There have been times where I have disappeared for weeks to at most a couple of months at a time for RL reasons from the game. PL’ing helps me stay engaged with the game. If I had to level every toon “the right way” every time I wouldn’t play at all. Potentially having to take 6 months to a year to get a 50 versus pumping one out in a 4 hour session on a Saturday.

Hm. Well actually after reading what you put I’d like to point something out that’s always vexxed with your camp. You people who “play the game the right way” are farming, when you get to 35 and repeat the ITF 5 times on Kill Most thats a farm, when you make an alt and repeat the same 6 TFs on blueside thats a farm. And another interesting thing, for all your grand standing about how great the content is, a lot of you “purist” won’t touch red or goldside content. I’m going to ask that you purist enjoy the game your way and understand others enjoy the game(vet farmers specifically not noob players) their way. I have my tinfoil hat theory as to why you all cant do that though but its very condescending and mean so I won’t elaborate

The thing is, for SOME it was the journey. While sure there never really is much to post 50 content, I know that even back in ‘06-‘07, playing my redside stalker in a duo, I wanted to see whats at the end of the tunnel more than focusing on the road to get there. There were some fun arcs of course, but I always liked having a fully slotted 50 to go back and exempt through content with or really back then just stay and play at 50. I get the whole liking the journey thing though, and respect it.

Look I get it, they may be playing the way they think is optimal, but to them playing optimally or rushing to 50 as crazy as it may sound COULD be how they want to play it. We’ll never be sure until they themselves come in here and say, “Hey guys, I actually feel like I wanted to level normally but felt pressured to get to 50 quickly”. I’m not even advocating for new players to be farmed first. I think they should play normally for the first time and experience the game as it’ll be all new to them. But I also don’t like assuming what’s fun or enjoyable to a player. Some people may like the trad leveling experience, others will look at it like I do; a mediocre slog on its’ BEST day. I would hate for the player in question to feel pressured to PL as thats only imo something vets do when they can’t be assed to waste their valuable time repeating the pain of leveling(personal bias here)