Wavicle

Yea, I get not EVERYONE just 6 slotted one thing, but the fact is that was the most common slotting by a wide margin.

Random people saying "I didn't slot like that" doesn't change the facts. The REASON Enhancement Diversification was called that is because it was intended to encourage people to slot some other way besides 6 of their favorite thing. And it worked. Now we slot a few each of several things, as intended.

Pretty sure some of the other server clusters have gotten rid of aggro caps. I don't know about pre-ED.

I MOSTLY "play regular". So yes, we are here.

Seriously, if the way this site really works is that if I ask for email notifications on a thread it sends me the people I put on hidden...that's pathetically bad implementation. Just terrible.

Slotting Debuffs in a Debuff is not a secondary effect. If you're claiming that Defenders routinely slotted Debuffs in their Damage attacks prior to ED you're going to need some evidence. Slotting Holds in a Hold is also not a secondary effect. The discussion was primarily about attacks and armor toggles. Yes, teams with multiple Rads always did ridiculous things, that also doesn't have anything to do with this topic.

Most of what you're talking about there is about Regen specifically getting nerfed. That's independent of ED. But this specific statement I've isolated because it is completely ridiculous. Nobody slotted secondary effects before ED. Attacks were almost always slotted with 5 or 6 damage.

In general I would prefer this be done by adding new sets rather than changing old sets. But I agree in principle, and not just on Damage. For example, it would be nice if there were Slow sets WITHOUT Damage. It would be nice if there were more sets that included Range along with whatever else they're doing.

Specifically, when a hidden user comments on a thread I am following, I am receiving an email notification that shows their message, thereby defeating the whole purpose of having hidden them.

Doesn't seem to have anything specific to my issue that I haven't already selected... It's only in my email that this is happening...when I go to the site itself, the appropriate content is hidden.

Little help with the email notification settings would be appreciated. I keep getting email notifications for comments by people I've hidden. Any fix?

It's not a buff/debuff power, it's a blast power. I mean, if they DID make it a team buff I wouldn't object, but I just don't see the devs doing that.

To get specific: People didn't typically have soft-capped defenses or hard capped resistances (except Maybe to smashing lethal, or maybe to fire, depending on your set) in the pre-ED days. Build Up was Not perma. Remember, we mostly had SOs. Even after IOs came out hardly anyone had the kinds of builds we have now.

I did play pre-ED and I think people have given you an inflated idea of how powerful they were pre-ED.

But regardless of those details, what I am 100% absolutely certain of is that the nerfs to Armor and Control AND ED (which should be considered to stand NOT for "Enhancement Diversification" but instead should be thought of as "Enhancement Diminishing Returns") were very necessary, were done exactly right, and have resulted in a long and bright future for the game. The people who left at that time just were not forward thinking enough to see what was possible down the line. ED saved the game. And Fire Tanks are still, of course, kings of damage among tanks.

It may take More investment than before, but we are absolutely capable of becoming more powerful now than we were then. And frankly, your comment about it not being sustainable and as fun as playing with cheats on absolutely applies to the 45+ game today.

It would have to somehow be set so that it only gave end to the caster of the VS.

I want to examine this just a little bit more. What did 6 slotting let us do? It gave us Perma Hasten, it let us do around 300% damage without buffs, it let us not run out of endurance. It let us not die even facing huge hordes of mobs. ALL of that and more can now be achieved with IOs and Incarnates. So although the exact builds may no longer work, the same goals can absolutely be achieved.

This. And with the new changes to the recharge and endurance cost of the pets and upgrades, it may be annoying but that's All it is.

Yes, of course you have to build differently. When ED was put in the devs at the time explicitly said they were pulling back how much power we had so that they could give it and more back to us later. And that's exactly what they did. There is absolutely no question whatsoever that a t4 Incarnate, Purpled out IO build toon is way more powerful than the equivalent pre-ED build. Even for Fire Tanks, Regen, whatever.

Sort of. In virtually every case you can be more powerful now than you were then.

A bunch of people quit when there were some nerfs early on in the games history. Joke's on them, we're WAY MORE POWERFUL now than we ever were then.

Welcome Home! Give it a month and you'll be advising the noobs just like old times!

Pretty sure that's what Pocket D is for, PDP was literally "DJ Zero's proof of concept".

The problem I was having was with the tier 3, but I figured it out. The text on the powers is wrong, and says all four t3 Support Hybrids are 50 ft range, which didn't make any sense. But the detailed info has the right numbers.