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I went through the numbers for Kin, and the first three attacks are more than fine. It's everything else which is so bad it should have never hit the test server. CS not being able to Crit and merely recharging PS isn't the intended win since PS is so underwhelming anyway. Claws can stack the far superior FU with no other attack in play.

As Sr. Software Engineer I think you're highly ignorant of what AI can actually do. Also, if an average gamer while in their basement can crank out CoH2, then how are they going to get a 'massive' number of people to buy into playing their version of it when it is so easy to replicate?

I haven't officially looked at Bill's build, but he's offered feedback on one of mine, and I saw enough posts by him to where I figure we are down to personal flavorings. I was still tweaking before my current break and settling on things. My point is, he put so many hours into his build and he had money to burn, so he's a s good as anybody to borrow and steal from in terms of a build. I don't think anyone in CoH player history is more associated with that combo than him.

It has the best DDR numbers, so yeah. The only real bane for a SR build is +ToHit.

Interesting to see all of the talk away from what the OP was asking. I would likely do something like Claws/rad as it will do the intended job, level up nicely after that, and still be good at 50. BA is going to be fine in the end, but it is slow to start. I'm not a fan of FA, but if you are just focusing on lower level content, then whatever.

Yeah, and you were done posting on the forum. 😆

Savage is Brute friendly. so I would do it with SR(because I did) or Shield(two TPs). The downside is those TPs, IIRC, are pets which don't benefit from Fury, but Savage is still great anyway.

I don't use Shadow Maul due to the animation. You need to play around with ToF with procs, and I'm not sure I'm still happy with it in my current slotting. Dark/sr Scrapper needs a little extra juice. Maybe one extra proc. My Dark/shield Scrapper feels fine, but that's a Scrapper and Shield helps nicely. Tankers don't due high DPS, they do larger AoEs. I don't think I could talk myself into a Shield/dark Tanker. It's simply too low of base damage even if said damage is consistent. Eviscerate is a waste on a Claws build unless you somehow found yourself with underwhelming recharge. Spin + Shockwave are all you really need.

I believe I used DocMidknight's build seen here. It's near T4, and I've been too lazy to fix anything on it as if there is anything genuinely wrong with it. It practically solos as well as anything I have even if it is slower than some builds.

This still the non-purple build I use. There's maybe a couple 5-slot purples I could swap in, but we are nitpicking at point. Discussion for the build is also below. I really should update that aspect at some point though. Note, if all you are looking for is general team play then it works more than fine. My current diff setting for solo play is +3x8, and only gets changed based on the mission. |MBD;24013;1449;1932;BASE64;| |G8xdICwKbBuZfSeOBuYtPTK/LkW69szmcNqd3dph+Xw+gBXLETibRaerr06n8tXLQmk| |HoPSVvD/Vz2mtrD3bUu2Is99daDBYgNO//99+qRJRJjIWZ1RiLArz6U1SQPrrSviW3f| |4qVI3bU4WW2Do6vlL2jZr71IKqrVCkWiFcq3oKIfvpXwft/tIdQHeIvLFuekWJTtHbW| |z+s1UKXkW8TXtzRQOJBLXxu39oJ0ELa2oJHsiDgtVhriSXOc323iYMOUuxK3wUM2utb| |hc+l7MFrIRqYUkpkWbfLMtw6UD/bO2HV12MQ3mDc2xj0s/KO6N9d3uCz0W3HieHkond| |Utj59OYs6FDgYE5c1dShrkZlppeMJO7jp0LGuxw1eHs2qpBpZ7uZ0styTqWOd1UBL+q| |F/tZzMLuXfbaDilRqx25EoKpkOi5/Lr0aerCr6JUdWyIUWrCfyyOIyYbWuZULv4AjvV| |Slzbk6pLbXP9/biaHYiYPWuXqlOlj5vlPsh2dagKS4qF2Bjyy7N94xsfWUxkv+2jBg/| |OfhZGKTnt62BEl7sLnzc0KB5hw96D0U9qnoRdMMaaMpR797xH0JlLYzeJpOzxf+7IK0| |9zv9GHz8xlHTKU6AjiMkP3256WZUQzqtIa1FKCpTA4lPSQPVpQvk09iblPK+4ieFM9Z| |aTJctUCbj2qUBIotgWWE8DxbG7egqUoPVckvl4T1FFUgWUeELjAk3abOUPrlHS9EjS9| |UhqKaEfoNw1S+yEWxgql7jtUkLVNgyq5jy6PmkVU9AIF97zhfIGDAmvUd6BEeEtGsS0| |M7NQfg3tNQG1MtZpfVzaTroC5Sm49YWcU+clT8oTGCc8obzQJDZXz0VW4esbOFyLw+W| |ysaOJlZTU3yfB/b6c54KJvSgccGI4/3iK8hAujyTE9NiY3ep0D7bNhbhlT5HRRb6k2K| |576VyDDQzCuOiWWVUBY1heaZsxyndlH3Xcbi8yWcKnZsNNfZHyNmvyhD/mFlTKdGH4F| |7gwXHkWeKjGcD/VPsIBJMLmGc1f9b227xwigAfDU3J0mYo5cvYqXj1RWiUNJQmMY0+a| |Cb5Ufv8vvqFid1DN2dqpzpdqBHC4FodL7Nolp+jxQECF50OxEiR9EFk/odHpIgcohbZ| |uRFvoTX95zretnAUbdoETw7l+Qj/Za5FPkvpkyZwZc+TDAbAxbDowbzJyOauSglQ8Pw| |exYYwACm0JjBNAo6vwxN7VPE/vV+oWPqEDLgzX0ebzwTHqC5rAFdjiwhgWV0tHS4EST| |LLjTrnHgJG9a7/s3aTSRR4si+3Ag7KzvnnlHXO4Acy15F+0Y8rP1ikfi44Y657uV7We| |2NlnrosVe1omoiCPNcnL7cv363SC17ZNa922tLmJNN8dKptjLIgUb6F1NXQlMI51qSq| |ET8HbX/ANh/suPVaPHqlK99MjLXqkHz3VjyrWG7J9+NyAAZ8wAA+G58WFd6awJeW35e| |Dygh8MCgmYO+llFMNIjvGxszjL5gyp2wmR2n4pK+A5QrqjXN2SBuKpbtW9JpNscqNIy| |+hIZjSnFqsqeBR9PrjuSRUewsBGWS8IGXZ1sWFAAIO2QllDrGYxWb2i39Ann1oAN+o1| |9YcuZXBsKPCi8Kb2cUKvOorn03t9yVXK8Fe9Ardb8KdKKnibcrG81uvrZWn/0Nc22X5| |BhCKkvu1xFRWywnPcvHYiIx44B/ZQE/pXev4q5qc8b83380+numMo3BSAtU75k7Pfs8| |HGHUxx/af97CnGSXS7WZGwDrnrH8/XFgvnha+EzRWSh4jqYsNjPpdl4dADKTKrSfy0z| |mFcOByZL9hPhxcUmTR5CCtpyTrZvpv4kb/sPJ/JgGVU47l5oHdXHsgjw44/nHR5vyB7| |aXFedPj/VZTrAn964T/ME4RSTuoYrCpuVzpcw4U0Tla2L8popXBfrN0B|

I've only gotten a couple Scrappers to 50 using DM. I would still rather do more play testing on Dark, and this is me essentially logging into the forum for the first time in months, so no clue when I would be back in the game. I'm still trying to get Dark to be at a more happy place in terms of damage in part because it's raw DPS is on the low side. I would say I'm more happy with Claws, but it can get watching grass grow boring as where Dark is lesser, but it is just simply more consistent. As always, what you pair with things can alter performance, see Dark/Shield. I'm personally not a fan of Bio, but I have a Rad/bio Brute at 50. Damage isn't the issue.

I liked 300. I'm not sure what else of his I have seen, but I also really don't care to watch anything else at this point.

I haven't done the Scrapper version. I'm just saying going from Point A to Point B can be faster on that build than various Scrappers. Now add in a Tanker being far safer.

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I like Claws on a Scrapper due to Spin having a shorter recharge and the crits help out Claws being Lethal damage at times. There's not enough alcohol for using Claws on a Tanker against a +4 boss of certain mobs types.

The issue I have is the Tanker version exist. That build doesn't retire Brutes. It can retire Scrappers. Dark cakewalks being the least resisted. The counter-point is its DPS isn't that great. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1arWBGWuwGCWqSrkLgnWK26xNTrILUO_QNKn8034A3L0/htmlview#gid=0

The worrisome aspect is it is that low of a score, and it isn't even out yet.

My namesake here is Claws/wp. WP is simply their own willpower, and she uses the fingerless gloves, but the Claws look attached to them, so it is not the same as Wolverine. Batman can be super due to how much of a tactician he is so that can be considered natural.

Someone loves Fantastic 4 so much they have four fingers.

I don't think it will be that radical of a change as it is within the same AT. If you were going from Scrapper to Brute, you could play around where the ATOs go as you care less about procs triggering. As mentioned above, you might tweak a set bonus here and there, but that's essentially it. The -Res and KB/KD procs are going in the same places.

Things to note, EM can do a truck load of damage which means you can overkill in terms of damage. Also, Em is going to be less resisted than Claws so there will be times EM is simply outputting more damage depending on the target.

I went and looked at a Claws build I have without Hasten. Global Recharge is 102.5% While yes, that is informative to know about the procs, it really don't change my stance.

Energy is lacking and it doesn't really gain an advantage with either AT. Ice and Elec are solid sets. I still prefer Ice. I will say if I ever did another Def or Corr using Time and Ice is at the top of the list.

I don't think AE still grants full XP. I went from hitting Level 21 in a single run through and then hitting Level 17 post XP change. YMMV for how you want to power level these days. Farming might still be one of if not the most effective ways for power leveling, It's just not what I do as I care about fun.

As someone who has gotten temp banned elsewhere, my rage didn't last. He'll either walk away or come back to posting. Odds are he'll check out for updates even if just for that which will keep him around. Are we really going to put odds on him resurrecting his posting? The dude who's persona is a vampire? At some point you have to accept going to a forum everyday to only not post isn't really a hill worth dying on. You either come back posting or you walk.