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It was primarily an attempt to see why people don't like these level changes. I don't think the T8's or T9's are too strong but I figured the people not wanting this change thought the T8's and T9's were (and thus not a good idea at lower levels) and that's why they are so vehemently against this change. So far they say that these powers are not too strong even at these new obtainable levels so I genuinely have no idea what their argument is other than precedence; which is a weak argument for or against something. I see I got down voted because people didn't read into that context but this is the internet so that's my fault.

Water blast because I can color it like mountain dew and yell IM GONNA BAJA BLAST YOU TO JAIL, VILLAIN! DRINK MORE PEPSI PRODUCTS!

Brute reading comprehension was never nerfed but was also never very good 😛

Judging by the changes made this page, I'm willing to bet its not that simple. I can't speak for the dev team but it's the #1 issue with MM's and yet nobody has been able to change it.

*Ahem* Guys, a new piece of drama for this almost-20-years-old-video-game-forum! I like the necromancy changes after trying them out in the beta. The appropriateness feels right. Thanks devs for giving me more spooky ghosts. I love it. Thanks for hearing my opinion!

Ngl my ice/ice/leviathan stalker is probably more useful to teams that some controllers/dominators Ice patch and Water Spout (KB2KD) Giving massive control All the -recharge and even -dmg from chilling embrace. Able to proc assassin's strike by myself with freezing touch. Big health with hoarfrost. Such a solid combo. Highly recommended.

Tell that to the people who love to share they've been around since I1 or something.

I have been defeated by cold, hard, objective facts and I will never mentally recover from being put on blast so hard. Edit: I can't speak for the serum changes yet. I'm going to test a necro/time when I get the chance.

I vote High_Beam as having the worst opinion on this forum. He has hurt my feelings and philosophical outlook on life in a video game forum! It's sausage and cheese! It's superior in every way, powercreep be damned!

I'll ignore the emotional tirade and rudeness. Can you define 'inappropriateness'? Also, would you want the +5 levels of powers from being exemplified removed because they would also fall under this definition? How about incarnate powers on regular level 50 content? How about temporary powers? Also these moves will scale to the appropriate level anyway. Headsplitter will do damage as if cast by the appropriate level. But you know this already so I'm sorry but your argument is.... to be generous, vague to me. Respectfully, and i do mean it, I just don't understand the argument against this change other than what I thought the underlying issue might be in an earlier post. If it's not the bursty nature of nukes changing how mobs are tackled, what is going to fundamentally change?

Very excited for MOAR CRITS ninjas and spoopy ghosts in necro.

I'm going to argue that energy blast is great for poison since poison desperately needs some mitigation- especially since you need to be in melee for your fart cloud. Now I know what you're thinking! The knockback is bad with the fart cloud. Well yes but thats why we have KB2KD slotted in our aoe's. Now you can keep enemies around you. For single target attacks, you could slot KB2KD but I find it unnecessary.

This has nothing to do with the cottage rule but a great example of how people use it: An excuse to change nothing because change is always bad. Brute changes wouldn't have happened if they obeyed the never-wrong-no-counter-argument cottage rule, right? Well according to the cottage rule, brutes are the way they are now and we shouldn't change them or else they would no longer function like a cottage... or whatever. Sentinels should be deleted and all the MM changes with overwhelmingly positive feedback shouldn't happen either because they change the way the MM functions in a vague way. I hope others see how silly and nonsensical invoking this mythical 'rule' is. Cottage rule isn't a rule. Let it die.

Maybe we should be nerfing these T8's and T9's that are clearly causing such a massive discussion such as this? Correct me if I'm wrong but we aren't arguing about getting powers early. We're arguing about getting certain powers early because they warp thr flow of the game? Maybe its time to nerf T9 nukes.

I'm always up for new archetypes but why not just let defenders and corruptors just have melee sets? I guess they would be super fragile?

Does energy blast need a damage buff or does it just need some tweaks to how knockback work? I may be mistaken but didn't someone run some tests and found energy blast to be rather good clear-time wise?

It was used by forumgoers, not actual developers so I'm not putting any weight into it. It was a poor analogy for a reason and it is continuously being used as some sort of Holy grail to shut down any attempt at change (for better or worse). It's not an argument. It's a philosophical stance- and an extremely weak one- 'let's cling on to what exists now because we have no proof something new could be better'. The cottage rule isn't a rule and it should be dropped from our discussions on... anything.

Remember, this is a forum for an almost 20 year old outdated video game. None of it is real nor of any real consequence.

I'm glad to see the devs are willing to rock the boat at all. I was fearful... of... something I dunno how to describe it but seeing them make larger changes to MM pets and the level-thing makes me happy. Some changes I agree with. Some I do not. But the fact there are changes at all and so bold is refreshing and I'm thankful there are people willing to dedicate their free tike to attempt to make the game better. Enough kissing ass though, MM's still have issues that I'm not sure these changes will address. We'll see. I'm looking forward to spaming arrows on a ninja/trick arrow MM to crank the crit rate up and watch ninjas push their single target dps to new highs. Edit p.s. the cottage rule wasn't even a rule. It was a single post used as an analogy by an older dev. It's not an argument against change and never was one.

I play my fortunata without follow-up and I play my bane spider purely mace only without venom grenade.

Can't wait for these changes. Really looking forward to rolling a mercs mastermind!

Ahh you see, I did not know about these changes. That's great to know that and I'll have to try it again!

I actually think you're hitting the nail on the head with the argument. For the sake of brevity, that's what this 'is this powercreep' thing is all about- the few strong powers that warp the game are now obtained earlier. Nobody is crying that crab spiders are getting their spiderlings faster or that a tanker is getting Headsplitter sooner. It's all about blaster nukes and the other handful of abilities that are strong. Maybe this says more about how busted nukes are in this game than these powers being available earlier and that should be the REAL discussion.

It's not terrible. People don't like it not having a hard single target attack and it's secondary effect is nigh useless. The voltaic sentinel is actually useful for action economy with /dark. This is because /dark demands a lot of attention and volty can attack while you are slowly casting your /dark powers. It's not a great powerset but it's totally usable.

I agree with Troo here. I dislike the -res component primarily because it doesn't address the elephant in the room: Cold domination is better. The rest of the changes to the set are cool but -res doesn't feel appropriate and is just another dimension that is comparable to cold domination. An absorb feels more interesting than a tacked on -res power.