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True. It becomes more tolerable with the newer and improved Stony(tm), and Arcane Blast. Plus an Epic Pool such as Stone Mastery. It won't be a Fire/Kin by any stretch, but at least it can be do-able. Add in procs and it might close up to the middle of the pack (see that proc thread for what might work there).

Thanks for this Redlynne, this build helped me greatly with my Shield/MA tanker. She's an immortal beast.

I was looking for some Earth/Kin build ideas. I know this is old, but thanks. I've got a fun concept in mind, just need to plan it out.

I'll toss in a vote for Earth Dark. You get personal Defense buff, extra damage in Tar Patch, a mini-controller pet, regen recovery, stealth, resists, and much more. It also plays well with targeted control zones, such as Quick Sand and Earthquake (Stack with Tar Patch).

Thanks for the continued elaboration on RoP vs IW. I'm sure I wasn't the only person wondering 🙂

Thank you. Appreciate the info.

As an aside, does Rune of Protection from sorcery break Mez?

Thanks O_Tex! I've currently got a 30 second gap, it's something I can adjust to and work on over time I guess 😛

So I picked up the Psi Power Pool for my Dark/Grav, and I'm happy with the armor, and very happy with Psi Tornado for a fast-recharging AOE. However, I was excited to get Indomitable Will to help break mezz, but it seems that it does NOT break mezz, it only use of use when used proactively. Which is disappointing. If I'm HELD, STUNNED or SLEPT, it won't work. Is there something I'm missing here? I thought in the past during Live it broke mez. Thanks for any input.

I too had an Illusion/TA/Fire on Live and it's awesome in teams or solo. And very safe. Plenty of debuffs and control. Surprisingly decent damage, too. I imagine with procs it could be even better.

Looks like I can't get on Test to try this out. My own Demon/Dark is only level 20 on Everlasting, so not up to Fluffy yet there. Sorry Plainguy.

Knights are best anyway with Touch of Lady Grey proc, and a -Res proc, IMO

I can try this tomorrow and let you know.

Its rated # 136 on the power set combos in the Flavor of the Month report, but I really like my Shield Defense/Martial Arts tanker. Tough, decent AOE, looks great comboing MA attacks, and holds aggro like a champ. I never thought I'd like Shield, but I'm a convert. And Tanker MA just goes so well with it to boost Defenses/Damage.

I think its been echoed quite a few times, but a Duplicate pet set, where the MM creates duplicates of himself. Combine it with a /Time secondary for extra flavor for creating alternate timestream versions of oneself.

My FF/Sonic/Mace salutes you!

I'm now SOOOO rolling up an Earth/Storm!! 😀

I'm going to add in Plant Control. The sound of the vines gripping and strangling things is awesome. It just screams "Hi! Welcome to Plant! You're on Lockdown!"

Earth Defense Defenders... Gosh that sounds yummy...!

This gets my vote as well. Dehydrate is handy for survivability. Solid AoE and ST damage, and very thematic. Both sets take procs like a beast.

So Spirit, you're advocating for Bots/Traps/Mu. Ok sounds good. Nice write-up.

Necro is more single Target focused since the grave Knights are your damage dealers. The zombies have small cones, but it's not enough to be considered a feature. Necro solo is just great, but they don't necessarily make good farmers. Seriously just play what you Love. You don't have to farm. I make plenty of money with my defenders controllers and masterminds.

I'd second Oldskool's recommendations for either Sonic or Water. Sonic offers the best secondary for moar damage, and offers a really good sleep for solo work. It has cones though, so AoEs benefit from good lining up and some +range. Decent damage types too (smash/energy). Water has both good ST and AoEs, and the AoEs are IMO easier to use, being 1 wide cone, 1 targeted sphere, and 1 large ground placed. Nice mix of damage types (smash, cold, fire) and debuffs. Can't go wrong with either.

My Thugs/Time is a fairly good farmer on solo radios. Probably better in AE on easy mobs in missions. The key is Arsonist's burn. I think the best AE MM farmer would be IMO Robots/Time/Heat. Assault Bot has strong AoE. Make sure to slot Sudden Acceleration KD proc in him. Little Bots with Overwhelming Force KD proc help with control. Heat Mastery for Burn as AoE dam and also control with KD proc. It's no Fire/Spines Brute, but should work well.

@Hyperstrike My use for PFF on MM has always been strategic. It has a higher recharge than the Defender version, so it's important to use it economically. Yes, it's often overkill for Defense (but the resistance is never "wasted"). But it also means it's immune to cascading defense failure and many mobs with +ACC. It's also steady state. The buff is there as long as you want it to last. The usual caveat about only affecting self, of course, during it's duration. It's an extra tool to consider when deciding in PFF as a secondary for MM: 1. Turtling up when you take unwanted fire. 2. Aid Self with no interruptions. 3. Prevent team wipes. Works very well with Assemble the Team. 4. Ghosting through missions. Also works great with Assemble the Team. 5. QoL stuff. Safe badging. Safe AFKs. Etc. There's a lot more versatile sets than FF. But what FF does, it does well. I was highlighting why I tend to enjoy it, and it's selling points vs other sets. It's like Super Reflexes: it's not that versatile, but it's good at what it sets out to do. So the three major selling point to me as a MM are: - Easy way to defense cap pets. - Offers status protection for self, pets and team long before Clarion. Frees up a Destiny choice if you make it to Incarnate. Works even when you exemplar down. - Situational imperviousness - Low maintenance I personally would pair FF only with Robots, Thugs, Ninjas or Beasts due to their interest Defense stacking. Because it has its repelling powers, I think it's a perfect match for the ranged Robots though. Just my two Inf.