Force Redux

Anyone know what this exactly means? When I run Tequila, I can't connect. I was able to do so earlier today. I get a fetching manifest message, and then his error message: Manifest download error for http://patch.savecoh.com/manifest.xml The underlying connection was closed: The connection was closed unexpectedly. I've tried revalidating, to no effect. Help appreciated. Thanks!

Would you please post your build, Or a build that is optimized the best. Expense is not a problem. As influence is easy to come by. Here you go. "Best" is always subjective, but this build has worked very well for me in the past. I don't try to cap resistance, though I do attempt to boost it. With all the controls and debuffs, things 'whiff' a lot or else are locked down. I like procs on things, and I build for control on Necro/Dark because it plays to its strengths, but the power sets are neat, because there are always odd ways to get more damage in via procs. Grave Knights are slotted for damage, and Lich for lots of control. Just my way of doing it, but since you asked me to share, here it is: Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Necromancy Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Presence Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Zombie Horde (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (5) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (5) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (7) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets (7) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus (9) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing (11) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge (11) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing (13) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration (13) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (15) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 2: Tar Patch (A) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing) (15) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (17) Recharge Reduction IO (17) Recharge Reduction IO Level 4: Darkest Night (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff (19) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge (19) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance (21) Dark Watcher's Despair - Recharge/Endurance (21) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance (23) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow Level 6: Enchant Undead (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 8: Hover (A) Freebird - +Stealth (9) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 10: Howling Twilight (A) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun (23) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge (25) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge Level 12: Grave Knight (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (27) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (27) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (29) Endurance Reduction IO (29) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (31) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up Level 14: Mystic Flight (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 16: Shadow Fall (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (34) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (36) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance (36) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 18: Soul Extraction (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen (25) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (31) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets Level 20: Fearsome Stare (A) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff (37) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/ToHit Debuff (37) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Recharge (37) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (40) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (40) Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit Level 22: Maneuvers (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (40) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (43) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (45) Red Fortune - Defense (45) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 24: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance (50) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure Level 26: Lich (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (33) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (33) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (33) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance (34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (34) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow Level 28: Petrifying Gaze (A) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold (31) Lockdown - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold (48) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (48) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold (50) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold Level 30: Provoke (A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge (46) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge (46) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge/Range (46) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage Level 32: Dark Empowerment (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 35: Dark Embrace (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (36) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 38: Dark Servant (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (39) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (39) Recharge Reduction IO (39) Recharge Reduction IO Level 41: Arcane Bolt (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (42) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 44: Rune of Protection (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 47: Spirit Ward (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 49: Vengeance (A) Defense Buff IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Empty Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Hurdle (A) Empty Level 2: Stamina (A) Endurance Modification IO (3) Performance Shifter - EndMod (3) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1456;674;1348;HEX;| |78DA6593C96F127114C77FC30C65DF040A2D4B4B17A9A023B89D4C4C6CAD26ED344| |D1AEB16432694B61381C11948E4E89F604DF4E4D683698CD67871BDE8D1FF412FDE| |8CA97AB06E89C1C7BC574166C2E4C37CDFFA7BBFDF4FBA32E5DE3C79F518E3FC936| |559D70B92ACD74B5A45A92E5925794529F20C1E1BBCF18EA5B0D0A854D4AA38572A| |6A6A45AE169BB12EE3F1C6F2B238256B970A9222EB1599B9E655B52C4E979595D5B| |ADBF8BFA06AC592D6F4191FB32579A9A4E9AB4A2D607C4B7255A935CA725D51ABF1| |1335A5287657561B65EAB11985AEC6E1DDB0327A5A56761420F04CE861DF070B630| |981F57D84EFB4C0ECDBC0BCC04E0B5DB141DED09C216218E9EE274690DE28721162| |398CE5B9FB9C91DFFB84336CFE2CFB8F67C097A73AFC538BA1ED7A467C8E0CBD20B| |E44F6BF423E80F5E1125BCC9AC27C0ED8129B51BCC5D9FE604DFB3BF43F0BB51CE8| |6F71CC51AE1964F43DF6FE1012BA30DEEAA2190DF6304EB5E26F203628B0E424E6B| |80E43F7503F1EF23907357D988FF7CD608DD43472748C33663E9A463E82DA01EA2F| |D00E6CF7F5167D93DFB0C6799083D45FD086B6313BD1417422D32EA21B1980D9846| |9D66127473EC88C1BB9D743F4127DC820C446A8B7C806F6925F271EC6B96C42FF03| |947FE0086AC3BDFC8473496D11692F2FC0BA62141BDB462DF91DB9FF07F127F117D| |5FD8D1C84DE1274DE122A6AFB2E136B441DF9187A1CA23D1AA23D7A0DE319A13333| |7280F62682E7F6A28077A99D7B9CD6B07B87748677B8068E13B486895BA8EDB94DB| |C43BC8BCCDC23AE236F406C96FACA52BE6BA089A489A7F08C8460AD39D272493A87| |9DBB0A3F7858C6A4E44C4ADEA41C3429874CCAAC49913A4A6BBE73F31967581DFE7| |FF7BBB5E5042BD76DFDD2AD2CE249FB6CF2FADA512CDC30AED9B286FB69B989FC0B| |5516E60A| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Paladin! I had mentioned you in the old memories thread, as you used to run awesome SFs on Virtue back in the day. Nice to see you here :) Now join Everlasting server, please :-p

Wouldn't mind a review of my Bots/Cold. It's up on page 1 of this forum. I'm really liking it so far!

No takers? Please don't let the post go to page 2 :-)

Nicely stated Oldskool. I skipped Abyssal Gaze, did not have room for it and my attack chain seems solid enough with Dark Blast, Gloom and Antumbral Beam. But is that a mistake? Am I missing something I've overlooked in consideration?

Glad you found some of it useful! As always tweak to your personal tastes of course. :-)

That's pretty neat! Does global damage affect pets? I didn't think so, but I'd like to be wrong!

On a MM I'd go Support hybrid every time myself the way things are currently.

Sure thing Vinxnotha! I'll post in a little bit

I have a Dark/Ninja sentinel, so same situation. I went with Gloom, all things being equal. When you exemplar down, you'll keep access to it, unlike Life Drain, where you may be too low level.

bob, here's my build, only slightly tweaked from my old Live level 53 Incarnate build (althoughis one does not include any Incarnate slots). I think its pretty bog-standard. You were focusing a lot on recharge, but the build doesn't need a large amount. It builds on good solid pet damage/accuracy, some END reduction (articularly for ProtBots), using pet IOs to boost their survivability, and the OF proce to make Big Bot do KD and avoid KB. You have your Mace powers to help with some controls, personal shield, etc. I put extra procs in Force Bolt, because I alway use it alot, and this adds some damage to the mix. I put extra slots in Hover, including stealth, KB defense. The stealth is QoL, to avoid accidental aggro. With that and PFF you can usually zip through missions and shed aggro that you do take, rather safetly. You could always take /recall friend or slot in Super speed, both would be useful for speed TFs. Let me know if any questions. have fun! Bots/FF was my most enjoyable character for years. Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Mechanista: Level 50 Technology Mastermind Primary Power Set: Robotics Secondary Power Set: Force Field Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Medicine Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Battle Drones (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage (5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (5) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (7) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets (9) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus Level 1: Force Bolt (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (36) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage (36) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 2: Deflection Shield (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (9) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (11) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (15) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (21) Red Fortune - Defense (40) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 4: Insulation Shield (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (11) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (13) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (40) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (40) Red Fortune - Defense (43) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 6: Equip Robot (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 8: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (34) Freebird - +Stealth (50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 10: Aid Other (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (13) Miracle - Heal/Endurance (34) Miracle - Heal/Recharge Level 12: Protector Bots (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage (15) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (17) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage (17) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (19) Defense Buff IO (19) Defense Buff IO Level 14: Aid Self (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (21) Miracle - Heal/Endurance (34) Miracle - Heal/Recharge Level 16: Personal Force Field (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 18: Fly (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 20: Dispersion Bubble (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (23) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (23) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (48) Red Fortune - Defense (48) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 22: Maneuvers (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (25) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (25) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (48) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (50) Red Fortune - Defense (50) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 24: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (29) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 26: Assault Bot (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage (31) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (31) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (33) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets (33) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown Level 28: Field Medic (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 30: Group Fly (A) Soaring - Endurance/FlySpeed Level 32: Upgrade Robot (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 35: Repulsion Bomb (A) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage (36) Annihilation - Damage/RechargeTime (37) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (37) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (37) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (39) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 38: Scorpion Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (39) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance (39) Gift of the Ancients - Defense Level 41: Mace Beam Volley (A) Annihilation - Damage/RechargeTime (42) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage (42) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (42) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (43) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 44: Web Envelope (A) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Recharge (45) Trap of the Hunter - Endurance/Immobilize (45) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Endurance (45) Trap of the Hunter - Immobilize/Accuracy (46) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge (46) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 47: Power Boost (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 49: Force Bubble (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Flight Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (3) Performance Shifter - EndMod (3) Endurance Modification IO ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1474;676;1352;HEX;| |78DA65544B6F126114FD8647293014903E6829D08794167480E8DE446DEBA2244D3| |52EC5E930B4934C679A02895DFA0F8C0BAB75EB73E3D6478CD1A5FFC198585FD1A4| |DA44DD9818BC997B52D099400EDFF9EE3973EFF966A85E392B3F5ABC7A4A48B133A| |6DA6CD6AA6AB3A56F6D18563D7441D7D62DDBB4D7B6BD4288509596AA65345B6A80| |9663DDC2DAF9F6C6866D292BF6AADD32B466AA67EB74BBD15016EC2D4DAF2D18BA5| |917E165DB369505D3585B6F459CDF55BD6E6886A5479DD592AED6F5ADE6BAB119E7| |5DBAE566DB545B866D8DCF6F1A9AD2E35E55C997D7DB496A2A47DF677E81ABE3175| |F092A3EE1DB07BEF50891F689BED75E67DDB7C7EBFE2FB49FF7894BBE43AD47EC32| |37BD4D3509C28AC7D1D4A84682BF14921CAE3FCC18921907228C83038CF928E365D| |27AA1F5421B825686360F6D1EDA02B4CF692E1EAD23FC933C4F904E222071BF8121| |AE9BFCC35879C3FDA6A926889982E7246726799E717291F1051987D15718990D20B| |3D801F007E391CCBF9825FF08FC23F01FFCCF7F95E68EA2F728FA0C932E0E2E8E79| |34AA4BF03CFE04F219463EC3C8E738F229219F12F28993DF10B443D026A14D425B8| |2B6026D05DA046947A01DB9C3B98DDD05DE631CBF0F7CC09879C8F892B21B4576A3| |C82E83EC32C86CE217F0276B26DEF1F3778D1ED81432482103997A49834BFFE6FE5| |ED13DB2E0B2A8D329AB29DC776A8FFDA6DF331EFD00FC08FCC438F399F109410ECF| |4D0EE731E3E3B39AE9677C4A35B3F09F85EF1CEE3307FF39F817E05F80FF638222B| |4C51BEC7F6C077813780BE7B90BBCCDF84D1642C1AC4A91676DD0AC657065CC3FDE| |7D57E9439728B898B28BA9B898132EE6A48B597231D52ED359EEFE2308C9D90DC60| |EDFF3CE7E887625EC4E73EFDF7BB98B98BB979BE5BA832EE79176F8D9F15C074E70| |CD5FEC8CEAAD| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Hello. Long-time Bots/FF player here, trying to venture out and try /Cold with Robots. I could use some help reviewing the build, and offering any advice. The paring is rather thematic, since a lot of high tech equipment is kept cold, so hence, the cryonic villain, Cold Steel. (I feel like this pairing also honors my two old main characters back in Live, Chill-Out, my Ice/Ice tanker, and Mechanista, my Bots/FF MM...kind of like combining the two into one...at least it feels that way to me!) I really miss the Dispersion Bubble the most, but I do like the +stealth from Arctic Fog. Helps keep the bots (noisy as they are) from alerting enemies while we assemble. Most of them tend to keep within it, with a few Goto prompts. With Fly +stealth on, I can sneak to mission objectives and summon the bots in peace. I wish I could fit recall friend in there to help with speed TFs, but I do find Group Flight helpful in certain maps, like Oranbega. I put in a few procs for sleet (in the build, I don't have it yet in-game) and used Frozen Armor to slot a few uniques for personal defense. Overall personal Defense is lower than my /FF, but the resists are better. However, the slows, and other debuffs actually add to personal and teammate protection, so that's not as readily apparent. I do feel I add more to a team that just +Defense/Toxic/EndDrainProt, although I've had times when I wished I could add +Status Protection. That will have to wait until Clarion. I did take hasten and put in some LotG for 30% global recharge, but I'm not aiming to take down AVs by myself here, just good solid solo and group work. If I have a few seconds of downtime here or there that doesn't bother me. Benumb and Sleet are up often enough to please me. What this build does offer me that I enjoy compared to FF is more control. It is far easier to keep things clumped up for the bots. In my old Live Bots/FF build I had Mace and I could glue them down but prior to Mace I had to chase down runners. Not so much this go around. Anyway, that's been my experience, and my reasons for slotting. If anyone would care to review the build below and offer critiques and suggestions, I'd very much appreciate them. Trying to get out of my comfort zone. Maybe one day I'll even try Beasts (ha ha ha....well...that might be a cold day in...well...huh...cold.../cold? ) Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Robotics Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination Power Pool: Medicine Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Chill Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Battle Drones (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (3) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (3) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (5) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (5) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets (7) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus Level 1: Infrigidate (A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge Level 2: Ice Shield (A) Defense Buff IO (7) Defense Buff IO (9) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 4: Aid Other (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance (9) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (11) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge Level 6: Equip Robot (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 8: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 10: Glacial Shield (A) Defense Buff IO (11) Defense Buff IO (13) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 12: Protector Bots (A) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (13) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage (15) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage (15) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (17) Defense Buff IO (17) Defense Buff IO Level 14: Aid Self (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance (21) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (21) Miracle - Heal/Recharge Level 16: Snow Storm (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow (23) Pacing of the Turtle - Damage/Slow (23) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance (37) Pacing of the Turtle - Range/Slow (46) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (50) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge Level 18: Fly (A) Freebird - +Stealth Level 20: Arctic Fog (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (25) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (25) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End (27) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (40) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (43) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 22: Field Medic (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 24: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (27) Recharge Reduction IO Level 26: Assault Bot (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (29) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (29) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (31) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets (31) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus (31) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown Level 28: Benumb (A) Accuracy IO (33) Accuracy IO (33) Recharge Reduction IO (33) Recharge Reduction IO (34) Endurance Reduction IO Level 30: Maneuvers (A) Defense Buff IO (34) Defense Buff IO (34) Defense Buff IO Level 32: Upgrade Robot (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 35: Sleet (A) Touch of Lady Grey - Recharge/Endurance (36) Undermined Defenses - Recharge/Endurance (36) Recharge Reduction IO (36) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (37) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (37) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 38: Heat Loss (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (39) Pacing of the Turtle - Damage/Slow (39) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance (39) Pacing of the Turtle - Range/Slow (40) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow (40) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge Level 41: Ice Blast (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (42) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 44: Frozen Armor (A) Reactive Defenses - Defense (45) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (45) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection (46) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (46) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 47: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 49: Group Fly (A) Soaring - Endurance/FlySpeed Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Empty Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - 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So...no popcorn? 0_0 FWIW I usually take a pool attack in any non-Demon MM.

Leveling a Bots/Cold right now. I like it. I like the improved utility and debuffs over my old standby FF. I know I'll miss Dispersion Bubble until Clarion, but I think it is worth the trade-off. I have stealth I also didn't have before. The slows are helpful as well, since runners are often a problem with no way to immobilize prior to Mace when using FF. On this one I think I'll go Chill mastery for an attack and the armor, and Hibernate as a replacement for PFF/panic button.

As usual everyone seems to forget about /cold. Some of the best debuffs in the game for taking out an AV. Great defense ice shields for your pets. Would take bots/cold over the usual boring bots/FF anyday. But even bots/cold was a bit too boring for my taste so I went bots/storm. :) I will second that Bots/Cold is also terrific. MM now has the minimum FX option. Lacks Dispersion Bubble, but that's mostly fixed at the Incarnate level. In trade you get stealth and great debuffs, some resists Still needs Medicine IMO. Oh, and Power Boost isn't necessary with Cold, so feel free to check out other Pools.

Don't have Pine's up... On my phone. Quickly: you don't need more than one KB Protection IO. Never put slots in flight. One End reducer is good enough. Swap to Aid Self from injection. You will still take some damage and you wont have to rely on greens. Overwhelming Force KD proc in Assault Bot. Help him keep things in his burn patch On the run. More later if I get time in front of PC. Have fun!

Pretty much this. I shelved my MMs to keep leveling my Dark/Ninjutsu sentinel. I should post a build for review. So far I slotted basic IOs, with a few exceptions: Celerity +Stealth (stalker-esque invis) OF's KD proc in Torrent. Both of these had a big impact in gameplay. I'll spend 100 merits shortly to get the Gladiators +global defense in a little bit. Ticks all my check boxes, and I have fun leaving the charge on with my KD cone on groups. I slotted for dinner Range in my cone, otherwise I am okay with the skirmish ranges.

Something like Darkest Night from the Soul PP definitely adds to survivability.

I'm all for this. I love FF, always have, but it needs to add something else... Absorpsion would be a great boon.

I support this statement. Xao, you just assembled my thoughts on the matter. Thanks.

How about a flat 10% damage increase? Equivalent to Assault. Not a huge bump, but measurable and a step towards a bit more parity as a tweak. Either that or rework the class passive to provide power-agnostic benefits to improve damage.

To OP, glad you are enjoying DP/Ninjutsu. ;)

That's a great breakdown Sunsette!

I can second TIme/DP, having taken one to 50 back in the day. It works very well together.