Radiation/War Mace Tanker Build

[Lucidity712]

Hey guys,

 

I finally got my Rad/WM tank to 50 today, now its time for a respec. I'd love to use this toon for farming, and I'm looking for a build that would fit that. 

 

I used to play years ago on live, but all these new additions to the game are very confusing! (Especially these IO sets)

 

Could someone point me in the direction of what kind of sets I should be looking for? I've seen a few builds here on these forums with Rad Armor but nothing with War Mace.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

 

Thanks! 

[Camel]

17 minutes ago, Lucidity712 said:

Hey guys,

 

I finally got my Rad/WM tank to 50 today, now its time for a respec. I'd love to use this toon for farming, and I'm looking for a build that would fit that. 

 

I used to play years ago on live, but all these new additions to the game are very confusing! (Especially these IO sets)

 

Could someone point me in the direction of what kind of sets I should be looking for? I've seen a few builds here on these forums with Rad Armor but nothing with War Mace.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

 

Thanks! 

I have not made this pairing yet but I'll make you a build in the morning. I might add that while you "could" farm with this build.. It's not going to be that good at all. It would be great for regular content though! You could make a Spines/Fire or Radiation Melee/Fire Brute and save 100's and 100's of hours in farm time by using those two builds instead of this Tank. My Spines/Fire/Mu Brute can clear some of the most popular farm maps in 4 minutes, I'd wager that it would take a Radiation/War Mace Tank 10+ minutes even with the best build possible. So, I'll make you the build, But I could not recommend using it to farm. But you totally can if saving time is not a factor!
 

edit: What kind of farming are you planning on doing?

Edited June 18, 2020 by Camel

[Lucidity712]

5 minutes ago, Camel said:

I have not made this pairing yet but I'll make you a build in the morning. I might add that while you "could" farm with this build.. It's not going to be that good at all. It would be great for regular content though! You could make a Spines/Fire or Radiation Melee/Fire Brute and save 100's and 100's of hours in farm time by using those two builds instead of this Tank. My Spines/Fire/Mu Brute can clear some of the most popular farm maps in 4 minutes, I'd wager that it would take a Radiation/War Mace Tank 10+ minutes even with the best build possible. So, I'll make you the build, But I could not recommend using it to farm. But you totally can if saving time is not a factor!
 

edit: What kind of farming are you planning on doing?

 

Ok fair enough! I'm actually in the middle of leveling a Spines/Fire brute so I can just use that once he's 50. No need to make a farming build for my Rad/WM tank then, but I would appreciate a good build for regular content if you don't mind! Thanks for the advice!

[Bopper]

19 minutes ago, Camel said:

I'd wager that it would take a Radiation/War Mace Tank 10+ minutes

Man, I hope not. I use a Granite/SS tank and could clear +4/x8 maps in 6-7 minutes...and I suck at farming haha (I tend to not use inspirations). Is the AoE on War Mace that bad? 

 

Granted, we might do different maps. I typically use Briggs.

 

But your overall assessment I agree with. A Rad/WM Tank would do very well in regular content

Edited June 18, 2020 by Bopper

[Camel]

2 minutes ago, Bopper said:

Man, I hope not. I use a Granite/SS tank and could clear +4/x8 maps in 6-7 minutes...and I suck at farming haha (I tend to not use inspirations). Is the AoE on War Mace that bad? 

 

Granted, we might do different maps. I typically use Briggs.

 

But your overall assessment I agree with. A Rad/WM Tank would do very well in regular content

I may have overexaggerated, I was thinking that because Mace is a weapon set, all of your AoE would mostly have to come from Mace to avoid redraw. So any Epics/Primary AoE would be a bit clunky. Mace actually has decent AoE. So maybe it would be only 50% slower on average. 4 minutes for Spines/Fire, 6-8 minutes for a Rad/WM Tank.

 

[Parabola]

39 minutes ago, Camel said:

I may have overexaggerated, I was thinking that because Mace is a weapon set, all of your AoE would mostly have to come from Mace to avoid redraw. So any Epics/Primary AoE would be a bit clunky. Mace actually has decent AoE. So maybe it would be only 50% slower on average. 4 minutes for Spines/Fire, 6-8 minutes for a Rad/WM Tank.

 

Mace has a no redraw option doesn't it? This sounds like a great combo - rad fixing the high end costs of mace, lots of aoe from both sets, the ability to use ff+rech to power everything, and good soft control for protection.

[KC4800]

I farm with my Rad/WM but I don't use a fire farm.

Energy instead. #14308

 

Since you asked for help with slotting War Mace and I dont use Mids; heres what I use:

Bash 1 slot

Pulverize 5 slots Gladiator Strike

Jawbreaker 6 slots Kinetic Crash

Taunt 1 slot

Build Up 3 slots

Clobber 6 slots Hecatombs and Absolute Amazement

Whirling Mace 4 slots Superior Gauntleted Fist

Shatter 4 slot Armageddons

Crowd Control 4 Slots Sciroccos

Edited June 18, 2020 by KC4800

[Camel]

Alright, as promised. This is the direction I think I would go if I were to run a Radiation/War Mace Tanker for PvE. Slots and power picks were very tight. I would have liked to include more things into the buid.. And I maybe could if I play tested this extensively and came to the conclusion that some powers are not needed. But I have not tested it. You could maybe drop Jawbreaker, and slot Bash that way instead.. But your exemplared attack chain would really suffer. I'm also not entire sold on Gamma Boost... But again, I have not played Radiation Armor extensively. I have a Radiation/Dark Melee Tank at 50+1. But I do not play him, I even unslotted him... And I'm not sure why, because he would rock! Anyways, here it is!
 

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Secondary Power Set: War Mace
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), ImpArm-ResPsi(11)
Level 1: Bash -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 2: Proton Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(13), ImpArm-ResPsi(15)
Level 4: Jawbreaker -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(25)
Level 6: Fallout Shelter -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(19), ImpArm-ResPsi(19)
Level 8: Radiation Therapy -- NmnCnv-Heal(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(46), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A)
Level 12: Beta Decay -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(48), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(50), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 18: Particle Shielding -- NmnCnv-Heal(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(43), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(45), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 20: Whirling Mace -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(34), Erd-%Dam(50)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(23), Rct-ResDam%(23)
Level 24: Gamma Boost -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 26: Ground Zero -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(37), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(40), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Obl-%Dam(43)
Level 28: Clobber -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(29), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Hct-Acc/Rchg(31), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Hct-Dam%(31)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-Max HP%(33), ImpArm-ResPsi(34)
Level 35: Shatter -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(37)
Level 38: Crowd Control -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Arm-Acc/Rchg(39), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Arm-Dam%(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40)
Level 41: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(42)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Meltdown -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(48), Ags-Psi/Status(48)
Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5), Mrc-Rcvry+(7)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(3), PrfShf-End%(3), PwrTrns-+Heal(5)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon 
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Melee Radial Embodiment 
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[Camel]

It's also a 2 for 1 special going on this morning. So I made a "farm" build too if you really wanted to go that route. 😁 So here's the "farming" build, incorporating more AoE from the Mu epic. I haven't played a weapons character since my Titan/Bio, so maybe I am mistaken with redraw. Either way, here's the build!
 

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Secondary Power Set: War Mace
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(13)
Level 1: Bash -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Proton Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17)
Level 4: Jawbreaker -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9)
Level 6: Fallout Shelter -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(19), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21)
Level 8: Radiation Therapy -- NmnCnv-Heal(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(42), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 10: Gamma Boost -- Prv-Absorb%(A), PrfShf-End%(11)
Level 12: Beta Decay -- HO:Enzym(A), HO:Enzym(40)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 18: Particle Shielding -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(43), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(43), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 20: Whirling Mace -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(25), Erd-%Dam(25)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(46), Rct-ResDam%(46)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Ground Zero -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(34), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Obl-%Dam(37)
Level 28: Clobber -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Hct-Acc/Rchg(29), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Hct-Dam%(31)
Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-Max HP%(33)
Level 32: Meltdown -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(33)
Level 35: Shatter -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(37)
Level 38: Crowd Control -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Arm-Acc/Rchg(39), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Arm-Dam%(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40)
Level 41: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(42)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Electrifying Fences -- Bmbdmt-Dam(A), Bmbdmt-Dam/Rech(48), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech(48), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(45), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(48)
Level 49: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(50), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Rgn-Knock%(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5), Mrc-Rcvry+(5)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(3), PrfShf-End%(3)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon 
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
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[Lucidity712]

Wooh! Thanks Camel! That helps out a lot!

 

Cheers!!

[Camel]

5 hours ago, Lucidity712 said:

Wooh! Thanks Camel! That helps out a lot!

 

Cheers!!

You’re welcome! Let me know if you have any questions. There’s a lot of helpful people around these parts. 
 

Cheers bud! 🍺

[Hyperstrike]

Builds result in corruption error in Mids

 

[Camel]

1 hour ago, Hyperstrike said:

Builds result in corruption error in Mids

 

Interesting. Do I have an out of date Mids?

[Bopper]

11 hours ago, Camel said:

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10

 

15 minutes ago, Camel said:

Interesting. Do I have an out of date Mids?

Looks like you have a fairly recent version. There might be a chance Hyperstrike has an older version.

[Hyperstrike]

I've got both versions.
It generates a corruption in both.

I've noticed the newer versions are more prone to spitting gobbeldygook.

[Camel]

3 hours ago, Hyperstrike said:

I've got both versions.
It generates a corruption in both.

I've noticed the newer versions are more prone to spitting gobbeldygook.

Ahh, the fabled “gobbledygook” strikes again! Any idea to remedy this? It seems to have worked for others.

[Hyperstrike]

1 hour ago, Camel said:

Ahh, the fabled “gobbledygook” strikes again! Any idea to remedy this? It seems to have worked for others.

Not saying it doesn't work.  Just saying that I see a much higher instance of scrambled builds out of the newer Mids.
Dunno why.
Dunno how to stop/fix it from doing so.
Fervent prayers and copious swearing haven't helped thus far.

Edited June 19, 2020 by Hyperstrike

[Bopper]

1 hour ago, Hyperstrike said:

Not saying it doesn't work.  Just saying that I see a much higher instance of scrambled builds out of the newer Mids.
Dunno why.
Dunno how to stop/fix it from doing so.
Fervent prayers and copious swearing haven't helped thus far.

This borders on going off-topic, so feel free to ping us in the Mids forum. But what OS and Mids version do you have? Have you made tweaks to your Mids version (like make changes to the database)? Have you tried repairing Mids or uninstall/reinstall?

[Tiklandian]

I wanted to try this too. Does anyone know the optimal WM rotation for ST? Also is there a build that proccs out both Rad Theropy and Ground Zero?

[Hyperstrike]

4 hours ago, Bopper said:

This borders on going off-topic, so feel free to ping us in the Mids forum. But what OS and Mids version do you have? Have you made tweaks to your Mids version (like make changes to the database)? Have you tried repairing Mids or uninstall/reinstall?

Win 10 Enterprise LTSB 2019

[Bopper]

29 minutes ago, Hyperstrike said:

Win 10 Enterprise LTSB 2019

thanks, I was also wondering about the Mids version you have. Just so there's no chance for confusion on my end.

[modest]

2 hours ago, Tiklandian said:

I wanted to try this too. Does anyone know the optimal WM rotation for ST? Also is there a build that proccs out both Rad Theropy and Ground Zero?

I use a rotation of Clobber, Jawbreaker, Shatter, Gloom on my Rad/WM Tanker. I found that this led to the best Pylon times (~3:15 without Hybrid: Assault).

 

Clobber should have the Hecatomb: Chance for Negative proc, and at least one other damage proc (Gladiator's Strike, Touch of Death, Mako, Perfect Zinger).

Shatter should have Armageddon: Chance for Fire and Fury of the Gladiator: Chance for -Res. You can choose to proc out Shatter with Obliteration, Scirocco, Eradication, and/or Zinger.

Jawbreaker should have at least one damage proc (Gladiator's Strike, Mako, Touch of Death, Perfect Zinger).

Gloom should have the Apocalypse: Chance for Negative proc and at least one other damage proc (Cloud Senses, Gladiator's Javelin). Avoid Decimation: Chance of Build Up. I found that slotting this actually lowered DPS.

 

Radiation Therapy takes good procs: Obliteration, Scirocco's, Eradication, Fury -Res, Perfect Zinger, Touch of the Nictus. You could also 5 slot it with Panacea for the global recharge and set bonuses, and use the final slot for a damage proc.

 

I wasn't able to make Ground Zero worth using, but it might be useful with melee sets that don't have high damage AOE attacks. I found Shatter and Crowd Control to be better options for AOE.

[Infinitum]

Here is how i would approach it - based on my Rad Rad Tank Radianite.

 

Again its largely unkillable unless against unique damage types thats unresistable.

 

There are two ways to approach the Incarnates

 

Alpha - Musculature if you want more damage - will work fine as you are already res capped to everything important - or close enough

          - Agility if you want more defense - isnt really needed because endurance is fine on this build, and without DDR it isnt as effective as this is a natively resistance build anyway.

 

Destiny - This is the tough one

             -Ageless Radial for recharge and DDR is usually the way i go to get the recharge bonus and also the DDR for the defense I do have.

             -Barrier - more overkill than anything - i never really needed this so i opted for Ageless.

             -Rebirth - probably second most useful for the regen and heal - even though i rarely ever needed this also.

 

Hybrid - I usually Dual Hybrid on most my toons anyway

            - My main Hybrid on this one is Melee Radial - because it adds defense, and also a taunt aura +regen.

            -Assault Radial - when i want a double hit like a baby crit to boost the already impressive damage output.

 

And Im a flyer so all my builds have fly - you can substitute that out.

I also approach from a You arent going to take me out mentality first so i max defensive - then build the offensive - but as you can see - still impressive attacks.

 

My Rad Rad Tank is honestly hard to say which is better between my Invul/SS, my Rad/Rad or any one of my 4 Shield varieties.

 

They are all unkillable against any defendable content - whether its Rularu, Incarnate, Debuffers, Hardened AV targets (aside from the patch damage from unique conten - but even then you literally just avoid the patch)

Tanker (Radiation Armor - WarMace).mxd

[Hyperstrike]

2 hours ago, Bopper said:

thanks, I was also wondering about the Mids version you have. Just so there's no chance for confusion on my end.

 

2.7.2.10
1.962

[Bopper]

13 minutes ago, Hyperstrike said:

 

2.7.2.10
1.962

Hmmm...i would try to open mids 2.7.2.10 already, then open a build from it, selecting the .mxd that you can't open. If it doesn't work, go to Control Panel, Programs, find Mids Reborn and try to do a repair. If it still doesn't work, uninstall/reinstall