Drgnfligrl Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 If I have a set of 5 LotG and the Gaussin proc in fortitude, will the target receive the chance for B/U bonus?
Doomguide2005 Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Drgnfligrl said: If I have a set of 5 LotG and the Gaussin proc in fortitude, will the target receive the chance for B/U bonus? @Bopper would likely know with more certainty. I'm currently unable to get in game to test it, but I suspect you'd be the recipient when it procs.
Drgnfligrl Posted January 18, 2021 Author Posted January 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Doomguide2005 said: @Bopper would likely know with more certainty. I'm currently unable to get in game to test it, but I suspect you'd be the recipient when it procs. I do too, but the target will still receive the to hit buff is my guess
Bopper Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, Doomguide2005 said: @Bopper would likely know with more certainty. I'm currently unable to get in game to test it, but I suspect you'd be the recipient when it procs. I dont know off hand, but my guess is it's set up similar to how Performance Shifter is, where it checks to see if the target is friendly to grant the buff. If I get on a computer soon, I can double check how the enhancement is set up PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn
Doomguide2005 Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Drgnfligrl said: I do too, but the target will still receive the to hit buff is my guess Yes, your target will still get the to hit buff from Fortitude itself regardless of how the proc works. For that matter I'd personally would not be likely to 5 slot LotG in there stopping at either 3 or perhaps 4 slots (hit DR with defense). Then either slot something else or use the slots elsewhere.
Hedgefund Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 I just checked, it procs on the caster. Combat log: You activated the Fortitude power. You greatly increase the To Hit, Damage and Defense of *redacted*. HIT *redacted*! Your Fortitude power is autohit.Your attack strength has increased temporarily.
Drgnfligrl Posted January 18, 2021 Author Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hedgefund said: I just checked, it procs on the caster. Combat log: You activated the Fortitude power. You greatly increase the To Hit, Damage and Defense of *redacted*. HIT *redacted*! Your Fortitude power is autohit.Your attack strength has increased temporarily. Thanks! I appreciate it!
Hedgefund Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 Oh, I only did 3 tests and none hit the target, I sort of assumed it wouldn't proc on both the caster and the target. That is an assumption though. Someone else can be more thorough if they want, I've already spent 2 unslotters for this... 1
Onlyasandwich Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 I am not aware of any "buff" style proc that will activate on your target. I believe panacea +hp/end, performance shifter, and other +hp or +end procs will affect your target, but not any procs that confer a direct stat benefit.
Doomguide2005 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Well the next question for me would be how reliable can it be made to proc given that I usually have large amounts of global recharge in my Empaths and could skip as much recharge enhancement in Fortitude as needed to max my proc rate.
ZorkNemesis Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Doomguide2005 said: Well the next question for me would be how reliable can it be made to proc given that I usually have large amounts of global recharge in my Empaths and could skip as much recharge enhancement in Fortitude as needed to max my proc rate. Proc rate is only looking at the recharge time of the power along with any enhancements tied to that power reducing recharge (Alpha included). Global recharge bonuses like Hasten, LotG, or other set bonuses are not considered in the PPM formula. Gaussian's Chance for BU had a 1 proc per minute rate. For maximum chance, essentially try to keep Fortitude's recharge time (in the Detailed info window) around a minute. Also keep in mind, the proc effect only lasts about 5 seconds... Edited January 21, 2021 by ZorkNemesis Currently playing on Indomitable as @Zork Nemesis; was a Protector native on live.
Doomguide2005 Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ZorkNemesis said: Proc rate is only looking at the recharge time of the power along with any enhancements tied to that power reducing recharge (Alpha included). Global recharge bonuses like Hasten, LotG, or other set bonuses are not considered in the PPM formula. Gaussian's Chance for BU had a 1 proc per minute rate. For maximum chance, essentially try to keep Fortitude's recharge time (in the Detailed info window) around a minute. Also keep in mind, the proc effect only lasts about 5 seconds... Need to go decipher the proc math, but 60 seconds is the base recharge on Fort. My Emps are generally looking at global recharges of 175+ and using Spiritual. Fort is on probably a 20 to 30 second cooldown without any outside buffs (like another Emps AB). Going to be fun for dropping a nuke or t3 blast. Edit: noticing you said the Alpha effects the proc. Means have to look into other Alphas perhaps. Hmmm. Edited January 21, 2021 by Doomguide2005
Cryoterm Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 My fortitude (defender version) is slotted with 3 52+ membranes (and a +7,5 LoTG Global Rech). Spiritual Radial T4 + Clarion Radial + Powerboost + Fortitude boosts... 65% Hit 30% dmg 50% def Hope that helps! 1
Doomguide2005 Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Anodina said: My fortitude (defender version) is slotted with 3 52+ membranes (and a +7,5 LoTG Global Rech). Spiritual Radial T4 + Clarion Radial + Powerboost + Fortitude boosts... 65% Hit 30% dmg 50% def Hope that helps! Indeed I often use similar slotting, especially when trying to get the most buff for least slots Membranes rock. The downside is lack of set bonuses and when also running Tactics (which my Emps universally run) starts to buff the To Hit even without PB into 'overkill' territory for most teams. Other slottings I've commonly used: -> 6 Red Fortune (solo build for ranged defense) -> 5 Red Fortune for 5% recharge for builds with lots of Panacea (vs Doctored Wounds). Often add LotG defense/increased recharge speed in the 6th slot. -> 4 Luck of the Gambler including the global 7.5%. Looking at the 9% accuracy at 4 slots. Sometimes adding 2 from Gaussian's (though never used the BU proc) Edit: and props to @SlaveDawg2for their slotting 2 Membranes and the LotG def/inc rech spd. Without Mids or ability to get in game I'm thinking this is probably the best slotting yet. Gets well into DR for defense enhancement while saving a slot over 3 Membranes plus LotG I'd guess while still adding plenty of To Hit buff as well. Edited February 6, 2021 by Doomguide2005 Afterthought 1
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