Invisibility without powers

[kikyoku]

Is it possible to reach effective invisibility (stealth 54') without any powers granting the bonus? I know you can get 30' from the travel IOs, but can you get the other 24'?

 

I know stealth is a one-off now, and Super Speed can get you there, but I just didn't know if there might be temp powers or some other effect that could fill in the gap.

[Psyonico]

No, Stealth IOs are unique, so you need a power that grants stealth plus the IO to reach invisibility.

[Luminara]

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Temporary_Power:_Ethereal_Shift

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Stealth_Suit_(Arena)

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Hyper_Stealth

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Combat_Invisibility

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Stealth_Suit_(Raid)

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Resonance_Disrupter

 

You might also consider targeted -Perception powers, like Smoke Grenade.  The -Perception from those types of powers can be effectively stacked with Stealth from any source to give you the same effect as total Invisibility.

 

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Temporary_Power:_Smoke_Flash

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Smoke_Bomb_(Raid)

[siolfir]

Midnight Visage gives you 50' of stealth as a temp power; it lasts for 15 minutes of total use. It's the first one I thought of off the top of my head.

 

There are several other temp powers that grant stealth to varying degrees (ex: Stealth Suit, Resonance Disruptor, Chameleon Suit, Hyper Stealth, Combat Invisibility, more...).

[Yoru-hime]

Empowerment Station buffs from an SG base should also give 25' of stealth. I assume it stacks with IO stealth.

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Grant_Invisibility_(Empowerment)

[SuperPlyx]

1 hour ago, Yoru-hime said:

Empowerment Station buffs from an SG base should also give 25' of stealth. I assume it stacks with IO stealth.

 

It does indeed and with a stealth IO would give you 55 stealth for 90 minutes

[Doomguide2005]

4 hours ago, SuperPlyx said:

 

It does indeed and with a stealth IO would give you 55 stealth for 90 minutes

Yep and at one point just for the giggles I stacked Super Speed (35), Steamy Mist (35), stealth IO (30), and the SG Empowerment buff (25) for 125ft stealth on my Earth/Storm.  Any two of those will make you stealthy enough to match (or exceed) the 54ft you need for most purposes. 

[ZorkNemesis]

7 hours ago, siolfir said:

Midnight Visage gives you 50' of stealth as a temp power; it lasts for 15 minutes of total use. It's the first one I thought of off the top of my head.

 

There's a similar Stealth that's used in Agent G's arc in Faultline, however that Stealth has a 20 minute real time limit.  Use it all you want during those 20 minutes though, including sneaking through a Sky Raider base dressed as a Wolf Spider.

[MTeague]

I could see the SG Empowerment Buff causing mild degrees of frustration on Escort / Rescue / Kidnap missions.

Personally, I would never want any source of stealth I can't toggle off and then toggle back on.

[srmalloy]

1 hour ago, MTeague said:

I could see the SG Empowerment Buff causing mild degrees of frustration on Escort / Rescue / Kidnap missions.

I will occasionally use it for the 'meet with Lady Jane' mission from Montague Castaneda so I can skate past her guards to clear the route to the chest before going back and rescuing her; with all the 'distractions' cleared out, I don't have to worry about her aggroing on something and running off in some random direction to get killed. Once everything is good, I'll drop the invisibility and lead her to the chest.

[DoctorDitko]

On 5/20/2021 at 8:38 AM, MTeague said:

Personally, I would never want any source of stealth I can't toggle off and then toggle back on.

Well, you have to return to your base to toggle it back on, but like any temp power, you can open your powers screen, right-click it, and select "delete power" (not remove from tray) to turn it off.

 

I use it a lot when running TFs, when I drop by the base for a refresh and still have 5 minutes or so left on an empowerment buff, so I can reapply it immediately.

Edited May 21, 2021 by DoctorDitko