SmalltalkJava Posted June 17, 2021 Posted June 17, 2021 I've never played a scrapper past around level 10 or so. Do damage procs crit for scrappers or is it only primary damage that crits? Baseline MM Henchmen Defenses and Resist Values MM - Beast Pets - Pet Attack usage and some quick proc testing
Bopper Posted June 17, 2021 Posted June 17, 2021 Procs can't crit. All crits are handled by conditional effects within the power. 1 1 PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn
Carnifax Posted June 17, 2021 Posted June 17, 2021 Procs also do the same damage regardless of AT or damage buffs. They're pretty much a separate stand alone power which you trigger occasionally. Even the combat logger shows them as a separate power (much to the annoyance of my parser). 1 My level 50 builds [Bullitt Time : DP/Kin Corruptor] [Carnifax : Ill/Dark Controller] [Kerriae : Plant/Storm Controller] [Echinoderm : Bio/Spines Tank] [Iron Brew : Mace/Rad Brute] [Snookered : Staff/NRG Brute] [iScream : Ice/Ice Scrapper] [Binman : Savage/Shield Stalker] [Modul-8 : Time/Sonic Defender] [Concussion Blast : Fire/NRG Domi] [Orblivion : Dark/Martial Domi] [Mombie : Necro/Nature MM] [Tempore : Water/Time Blaster] [Thermodynamic Flux : Ice/Fire Blaster] [Carni's Online CombatLog Parser Alpha]
SmalltalkJava Posted June 17, 2021 Author Posted June 17, 2021 Thanks for the clarifications. I have a lot to learn about Scrappers. I'm probably going to level up my Kinetic Melee/Dark Armor. Baseline MM Henchmen Defenses and Resist Values MM - Beast Pets - Pet Attack usage and some quick proc testing
Crysis Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 I like to think of damage Proc’s as the equivalent of +X to whatever the damage is of the attack, similar to how old tabletop games used to handle “+5 swords.”
brasilgringo Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 And on a related topic, it appears that damage from scrapper secondaries doesn't crit - I'm looking at you Ground Zero and Radiation Therapy, at least as far as I can tell.
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, brasilgringo said: And on a related topic, it appears that damage from scrapper secondaries doesn't crit - I'm looking at you Ground Zero and Radiation Therapy, at least as far as I can tell. 99% sure you're correct. What makes the fact that only scrapper primary attacks crit even more bizarre is that it isn't true. Pool power attacks also crit for scrappers but only at the 5% rate regardless of enemy rank. It would be nice if scrapper crits were normalized across all attacks available to them. Oh hell, even the above statement about pool power crits isn't true across the board. Body Mastery Energy Torrent has the 10% against LTs and higher rank flag. https://cod.uberguy.net./html/power.html?power=epic.body_mastery.energy_torrent&at=scrapper 1
InvaderStych Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 5 hours ago, brasilgringo said: And on a related topic, it appears that damage from scrapper secondaries doesn't crit - I'm looking at you Ground Zero and Radiation Therapy, at least as far as I can tell. 4 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: 99% sure you're correct. They do not. Never did. Unless there is some exception in /Fire I am unaware of, which I am fairly confident there is not. But the blood-chilling wail of a thousand /SD Scrappers simultaneously rejoicing were that ever to change would be a sound to behold indeed. 2 You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge.
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