In Honor of Houtex and his Brawling Humilator

Bill Z Bubba · October 30, 2021

For those that don't know, Houtex was a player back before the snap that leveled a character from 1 to 50 using nothing but brawl. And I may be understating this accomplishment as my brain is telling me that he might have also done it with nothing but street sweeping and before the days of double XP.

I have no intention of being that awesome. But I will share with you: Pain Jain - The Swipe/Inv Scrapper. Here's her level 20 build. I will be soloing her from 1 to 50 using nothing but Swipe on auto. I did take strike but only as a mule for the Scrapper's Strike Crit Bonus IO. Regular play, story arcs, street sweeping, insps, IOs, all allowed. Amps (and other P2W buffs/attacks) will not be in use. Double XP is ABSOLUTELY going to be used. 🙂

So far, it really hasn't been bad at all but I suspect the next 8 levels to Invincibility will be quite the slog.

This thread is for tracking purposes throughout the journey.

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Pain Jain: Level 49 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- CrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), CrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(3), CrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), CrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), CrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), CrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(7)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ResDam(A), ResDam(19), ResDam(19)
Level 2: Strike -- ScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(7), ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx(11), ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- RgnTss-EndRdx/Rchg(A), RgnTss-Heal/Rchg(9), RgnTss-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 8: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A)
Level 10: Resist Elements -- ResDam(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Ksm-ToHit+(A)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- Srn-Def/EndRdx(A), Srn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Srn-Def(15)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctArm-ResDam(17)
Level 18: Assault -- EndRdx(A)
Level 20: Tactics -- EndRdx(A)
Level 22: [Empty]
Level 24: [Empty]
Level 26: [Empty]
Level 28: [Empty]
Level 30: [Empty]
Level 32: [Empty]
Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump(A)
Level 1: Health -- RgnTss-Regen+(A), RgnTss-Heal/EndRdx(13), RgnTss-Heal/Rchg(13)
Level 1: Stamina -- EndMod(A)
Level 8: Afterburner
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Edited October 30, 2021 by Bill Z Bubba

The_Warpact · October 30, 2021

I think it WAS street sweeping if memory serves me. GL lol.

Aurora_Girl · October 31, 2021

Again, as I have asked multiple times: WHY?

Bill Z Bubba · October 31, 2021

1 hour ago, Aurora_Girl said:

Again, as I have asked multiple times: WHY?

Because we can.

Bill Z Bubba · October 31, 2021

Level 25. Current build.

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0
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Pain Jain: Level 49 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- CrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), CrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(3), CrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), TchofDth-Dam%(5), GldStr-%Dam(5), CrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(7)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpSki-ResDam/Rchg(19), ImpSki-Status(19)
Level 2: Strike -- ScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(7), ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx(11), ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- RgnTss-EndRdx/Rchg(A), RgnTss-Heal/Rchg(9), RgnTss-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 8: Fly -- Flight(A)
Level 10: Resist Elements -- Ags-Psi/Status(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Ksm-ToHit+(A)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(15), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Rct-Def/Rchg(23), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Rct-ResDam%(25)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctArm-ResDam(17)
Level 18: Assault -- EndRdx(A)
Level 20: Tactics -- EndRdx(A)
Level 22: Resist Energies -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: [Empty]
Level 28: [Empty]
Level 30: [Empty]
Level 32: [Empty]
Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump(A)
Level 1: Health -- RgnTss-Heal/EndRdx(A), RgnTss-Heal/Rchg(13), RgnTss-Regen+(13), Pnc-Heal/+End(25)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(21), PrfShf-End%(21)
Level 8: Afterburner
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Bill Z Bubba · November 1, 2021

Sooooo while +4/x2 was certainly doable, having to claw through spawns of mechmen and hoverbots with nothing but swipe and them spawning as +5s made me drop back to +2. Doable at the pace of a barbiturate laden snail is no way to go through life, son.

Bill Z Bubba · November 3, 2021

Dinged level 30 which prompted another respec. Handling +2/x5 at the moment but will probably jump to x8 soon. Slowly lose end with the 9 toggles running but that'll clear up once I get more slots. Started eating my Experienced charges to speed things along.

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0
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Pain Jain: Level 49 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- CrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), CrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(3), CrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), CrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), CrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), CrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(7)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpSki-Status(13), GldArm-3defTpProc(13)
Level 2: Strike -- ScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(7), ScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), ScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), ScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), ScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(11)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(15), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), UnbGrd-Max HP%(19)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(27), Prv-Heal/Rchg(29)
Level 8: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 10: Resist Elements -- ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Unyielding -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A)
Level 18: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Resist Energies -- ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx(A)
Level 22: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A)
Level 28: Invincibility -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 32: [Empty]
Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Absorb%(19), Pnc-Heal/+End(21), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(21), Mrc-Rcvry+(23), RgnTss-Regen+(23)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(25), PrfShf-End%(25), PwrTrns-+Heal(27)
Level 8: Afterburner
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Edit: Honestly starting to wonder what her endgame build pylon time will be.... Edit2: Wrong build.

Edited November 3, 2021 by Bill Z Bubba

InvaderStych · November 3, 2021

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't there an event at some point where Brawl gets comic-esque effects and ludicrous amounts of knockback?

If am am remembering correctly, and that event swings around again, your project is going to seem like the work of a prescient genius.

Bill Z Bubba · November 3, 2021

2 hours ago, InvaderStych said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't there an event at some point where Brawl gets comic-esque effects and ludicrous amounts of knockback?

If am am remembering correctly, and that event swings around again, your project is going to seem like the work of a prescient genius.

Aye, CoD still shows all the extra silly effects. It was an April Fool's Day event. And, no, there's no genius on my part here, especially since I'm using swipe instead of brawl.

I will say, though, comparing this leveling spree to how long it took me to get the OG BZB to 50 back in Issue 1/2 (which I think was four months,) has been fascinating. Then again, being able to PL an alt to 50 in 2 hours should have given me some indication for just how much has changed since then.

hejtmane · November 3, 2021

See all this talk about brawl reminds me before we had all the real numbers available we calculated damage on attacks with the Brawl Index which was basically go punch a minion at even level see how much damage your brawl does and there was a formula for it from there.

Brawl index for the Brawl master

Bill Z Bubba · November 4, 2021

Woot to 35 and Tough Hide.

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0
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Pain Jain: Level 49 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- CrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), CrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(3), CrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), CrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), CrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), CrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(7)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpSki-Status(13), GldArm-3defTpProc(13)
Level 2: Strike -- ScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(7), ScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), ScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), ScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), ScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(11)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(15), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), UnbGrd-Max HP%(19)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(27), Prv-Heal/Rchg(29), Mrc-Heal/Rchg(34)
Level 8: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 10: Resist Elements -- ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 16: Unyielding -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 18: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Resist Energies -- ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx(A)
Level 22: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(31), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(31)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 28: Invincibility -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(33)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 32: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A)
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Absorb%(19), Pnc-Heal/+End(21), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(21), Mrc-Rcvry+(23), RgnTss-Regen+(23)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(25), PrfShf-End%(25), PwrTrns-+Heal(27)
Level 8: Afterburner
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Bill Z Bubba · November 4, 2021

Hit 37. It's dipping into the "watching paint dry" mode... How the #$*& did Houtex do this with street sweeping and brawl?

KC4800 · November 5, 2021

How about swipe and toy bat? Might lighten the mood.

ninja surprise · November 9, 2021

How much recharge do you need for perma-Swipe?

Bill Z Bubba · November 9, 2021

2 hours ago, ninja surprise said:

How much recharge do you need for perma-Swipe?

Sadly unpossible since recharge time doesn't start until the animation is done. But Mids is stating it's at .68sec recharge. It does make me wonder about cranking up a pocket kin and running focus/slash/repeat on my main. Hmmm, 12 sec base recharge on focus, needs to be 1.584 for slash's Acast time... 656% total recharge needed... caps at ... well that ain't happening.

Slash/Swipe? 4.8 down to 1.056... 355% total recharge. Well that's downright doable.

Bill Z Bubba · November 13, 2021

Ding 40. This project has definitely fallen to backburner status but I'm still workin it.

Bill Z Bubba · December 2, 2021

Ran another mission. Ding 42. Sooooooo boooooorrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiing. 🙂

Jaxman100 · December 3, 2021

I'd almost imagine trying some old school Stalker leveling tactics. Radio/Newspaper missions, run to end, get objective, mission completion bonus, repeat.

Pretty sure I'd only be playing this type of challenge with patrol exp.

Wow

Bill Z Bubba · December 9, 2021

1 clear all radio in PI = 1 lvl = 2 hrs. Ding 44. Only 12 hours to go!

Bill Z Bubba · December 10, 2021

new build. .51sec recharge on swipe.

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Aurora_Girl · December 10, 2021

19 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

1 clear all radio in PI = 1 lvl = 2 hrs. Ding 44. Only 12 hours to go!

You're my absolute favorite sociopath.

Bill Z Bubba · December 14, 2021

As I continue this insanity, some thoughts for those that may choose to go down a similar path.

1: Don't do this.

2: No, really, don't subject yourself to this kind of madness.

3: If you're still dead set on it, if you're going to use an attack that can crit, go scrapper. If you're going to do it with brawl, go brute, since brawl does NOT crit. (C'mon, devs, it's a one line of code fix....Edit: Ok, more than one line since it needs to be fixed for other ATs like Corruptors as well.)

4: Choose Energy Aura for Entropic Shield and its +recharge. See 5.

5: Get as much +recharge into the build as possible. You may not think that .05 less recharge on your one attack will matter but you are wrong to think it. Over the time it's going to take you to get to 50, the extra damage over time will become huge.

I'll probably finish this up tomorrow as I'm currently at 48.6 and then I am going to respec her, but I'm going to leave her as a swipe only character. Cuz why not? If I want a proper claws/inv scrapper, I can always PL another one.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Bill Z Bubba

Bill Z Bubba · December 14, 2021

Or go bio armor. Having evolving armor and genetic contamination would speed things up considerably... but that almost feels cheaty.

Pondering it... a brawl/bio brute would be amusing. Especially if you take fighting pool for the buffs to brawl.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Bill Z Bubba

Bill Z Bubba · December 14, 2021

Ding 50. 100% solo street hunting and radio missions, swipe only, claws/inv scrapper.

Markus the pedestrian says 60 hours.

Edit: yea, yea, I know... how do you kill that which has no life?

Edited December 14, 2021 by Bill Z Bubba

Doomguide2005 · December 14, 2021

6 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Ding 50. 100% solo street hunting and radio missions, swipe only, claws/inv scrapper.

Markus the pedestrian says 60 hours.

Edit: yea, yea, I know... how do you kill that which has no life?

So Incarnates? 😈

And 60 hours! ~~Holy~~, err unholy labor. And I thought getting my first Green Machine to 50 in about 270 (I think) hours was fast back in the day.

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