The_Warpact Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Ok, since the changes rolled out and you don't need a pocket kin. What is a good secondary? A good balance aoe and st, I was thinking stone melee but that seems redundant. Any advice? https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledigook Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) I have done one with Martial arts which is ok and extremely survivable. If i were to do another i think it would be /EM. The AoE on EM is not as bad as some say really. Better than MA anyway. EM has great single target, with ok AoE and some reduced endurance cost. Edited December 7, 2021 by Gobbledegook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 How is /Electric on a tank? https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLVRIZR Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 MA is great, and the animations are hilarious, while in Granite form. I'm an old-schooler, so SS is what I pair it with. Rage helped with the penalties and a giant rock monster foot stomping is a sight to behold. Stone Melee is also solid, but an end hog. Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM) Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank), Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank) Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute) Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) Everlasting - MISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank) Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 hours ago, The_Warpact said: How is /Electric on a tank? No idea on a tank but got Elec/Stone going on a brute and am liking it more than I thought I would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbacultchas Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) Gonna go with /Rad here. Solid single target, aoe is okay with the one big attack and the contamination. But filling Irradiated Ground with procs makes it into a 5 second passive mini nuke, and it's glorious. Go Rad Melee and never go back. Edited December 8, 2021 by subbacultchas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbacultchas Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I have a build for this if you want to try it. I've changed a couple of things around (more procs in IG) but it's still 90% the same. And Ageless could be avoided by taking Physical Perfection, if you prefer another Incarnate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 hours ago, subbacultchas said: Gonna go with /Rad here. Solid single target, aoe is okay with the one big attack and the contamination. But filling Irradiated Ground with procs makes it into a 5 second passive mini nuke, and it's glorious. Go Rad Melee and never go back. I have a Rad/FA broot farmer and he's a slayer to be sure. I'll check your build when I get home. https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 This is the Stone/Rad I came up with. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Beryl Diablo: Level 50 Science TankerPrimary Power Set: Stone ArmorSecondary Power Set: Radiation MeleePower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: Flight Villain Profile:Level 1: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(7), Rct-Def/EndRdx(7), Rct-Def/Rchg(9), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9)Level 1: Contaminated Strike -- HO:Nucle(A)Level 2: Radioactive Smash -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(36)Level 4: Proton Sweep -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(37), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(39)Level 6: Earth's Embrace -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(11), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Prv-Heal/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(17), Prv-Absorb%(34)Level 8: Rooted -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), NmnCnv-Heal(50)Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11)Level 12: Brimstone Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15)Level 14: Super Speed -- HO:Micro(A)Level 16: Radiation Siphon -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(48), TchoftheN-%Dam(50), TchoftheN-Heal(50)Level 18: Crystal Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(19), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-Def/Rchg(21), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21)Level 20: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(25), Rct-Def/EndRdx(27), Rct-Def/Rchg(27), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29)Level 26: Minerals -- Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Ksm-ToHit+(33), GifoftheA-Run+(33)Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(29), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31)Level 30: Stone Skin -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), UnbGrd-Max HP%(31)Level 32: Irradiated Ground -- SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AnlWkn-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(45), AnlWkn-DefDeb(46)Level 35: Devastating Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(42), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(43), TchofDth-Dam%(43)Level 38: Atom Smasher -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(39), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Erd-Dmg(40), Erd-%Dam(42)Level 41: Mud Pots -- PcnoftheT-Acc/EndRdx(A), PcnoftheT-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(48)Level 44: Granite Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 47: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)Level 49: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: GauntletLevel 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5), Mrc-Rcvry+(5)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), SynSck-EndMod(3), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(3)Level 49: AfterburnerLevel 14: Speed Phase------------ https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbacultchas Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 5 hours ago, The_Warpact said: This is the Stone/Rad I came up with. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Beryl Diablo: Level 50 Science TankerPrimary Power Set: Stone ArmorSecondary Power Set: Radiation MeleePower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: Flight Villain Profile:Level 1: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(7), Rct-Def/EndRdx(7), Rct-Def/Rchg(9), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9)Level 1: Contaminated Strike -- HO:Nucle(A)Level 2: Radioactive Smash -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(36)Level 4: Proton Sweep -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(37), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(39)Level 6: Earth's Embrace -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(11), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Prv-Heal/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(17), Prv-Absorb%(34)Level 8: Rooted -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), NmnCnv-Heal(50)Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11)Level 12: Brimstone Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15)Level 14: Super Speed -- HO:Micro(A)Level 16: Radiation Siphon -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(48), TchoftheN-%Dam(50), TchoftheN-Heal(50)Level 18: Crystal Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(19), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-Def/Rchg(21), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21)Level 20: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(25), Rct-Def/EndRdx(27), Rct-Def/Rchg(27), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29)Level 26: Minerals -- Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Ksm-ToHit+(33), GifoftheA-Run+(33)Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(29), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31)Level 30: Stone Skin -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), UnbGrd-Max HP%(31)Level 32: Irradiated Ground -- SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AnlWkn-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(45), AnlWkn-DefDeb(46)Level 35: Devastating Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(42), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(43), TchofDth-Dam%(43)Level 38: Atom Smasher -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(39), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Erd-Dmg(40), Erd-%Dam(42)Level 41: Mud Pots -- PcnoftheT-Acc/EndRdx(A), PcnoftheT-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(48)Level 44: Granite Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 47: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)Level 49: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: GauntletLevel 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5), Mrc-Rcvry+(5)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), SynSck-EndMod(3), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(3)Level 49: AfterburnerLevel 14: Speed Phase------------ Couple things here. Mids isn't updated yet, so you can't do it but I'd suggest dropping a performance shifter +end and maybe and extra end in Crystal Armor. Its a 20% end recovery now, and good spot for it. Since some of Granite's buffs went to stone skin, that should be enhanced for both def and res, so it's underslotted as is. You don't NEED Granite for the mule, youve got 5 spots for LOTG right now. So you can easily drop that one for another power if you like. Do you usually take two travel powers? To each their own, but a bit overkill for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbacultchas Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I'd suggest dropping fly or ss and granite, maybe picking up Gloom and Darkest Night. I think you'd see more return IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 6 hours ago, The_Warpact said: This is the Stone/Rad I came up with. Proton Sweep is pretty miserable and Devastating Blow takes long enough to activate you could go make a sandwhich. Do yourself a favor and take Cross Punch instead of either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onlyasandwich Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Erratic1 said: Cross Punch Such a beautiful little power! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbacultchas Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Yeah I dislike Proton Sweep so much. I drop it from every build. Devastating I take but oh so rarely use. The animation is not great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 Well, well, well thats alot of stuff to ruminate over. Thanks for the info I'll change tonight and see what's what. I knew about the animation times, my rad/fa farmer has them and they're just glorified mules. https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandyr Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Electric melee is pretty good on a tank. Tanks can really leverage the AoE, so it seems like you're hitting everything near you. I can't remember if it's chain lightning or Jacob's ladder, but if you slot a proc in it, it has a chance to proc on everyone, which is nice. I put the winter set ,chance for hold, in it and it procs regularly. Thunderstrike and lightning rod are great. The set just "feels" strong, and sounds great. The actual single target damage feels lackluster. But, you're taking down minions and leits in groups. I'm enjoying my stone/spines. Actually farming with it. I think stone/ice would be nice too. 1 What you wanted to know about Bio, but never asked - Tanker - Homecoming (homecomingservers.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandyr Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I was VERY tempted to go Staff for Guarded Spin and the extra 13% Resist from a combo level 3 Sky Splitter. Buy I have like 5 Staffers already. Still, I may go ahead and make one anyway. 1 What you wanted to know about Bio, but never asked - Tanker - Homecoming (homecomingservers.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, Xandyr said: Electric melee is pretty good on a tank. Tanks can really leverage the AoE, so it seems like you're hitting everything near you. I can't remember if it's chain lightning or Jacob's ladder, but if you slot a proc in it, it has a chance to proc on everyone, which is nice. I put the winter set ,chance for hold, in it and it procs regularly. Thunderstrike and lightning rod are great. The set just "feels" strong, and sounds great. The actual single target damage feels lackluster. But, you're taking down minions and leits in groups. I'm enjoying my stone/spines. Actually farming with it. I think stone/ice would be nice too. I am greatly enjoying my Elec/Stone brute and can think of no reason it would not work as a Tanker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLVRIZR Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 59 minutes ago, Xandyr said: I was VERY tempted to go Staff for Guarded Spin and the extra 13% Resist from a combo level 3 Sky Splitter. Buy I have like 5 Staffers already. Still, I may go ahead and make one anyway. ...and watching the tank in Granite form do the staff breakdance is hilarious! 1 Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM) Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank), Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank) Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute) Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) Everlasting - MISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank) Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 Yeah, I think the issue is I'm still stuck thinking I'll be in granite the whole time. It's throwing off my decision lol. I just got a SR/Rad to 50 so really don't want to go through that so soon. I got a Bio/Staff at 31 so good there. I dont know what I'm thinking, I haven't rolled an electric in a long time going electric! 1 https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbacultchas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Stone/Elec sounds fun! Solid AOE, good teleport power too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, subbacultchas said: Stone/Elec sounds fun! Solid AOE, good teleport power too. WITH the teleport pool! https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbacultchas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I have struggled on both my Stone tank and Stone scrapper to fit it in, just can't. I am jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, subbacultchas said: Stone/Elec sounds fun! Solid AOE, good teleport power too. Just finished putting one together, but running as a Brute and no Lightning Rod. I'll see how it behaves. - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sovera said: Just finished putting one together, but running as a Brute and no Lightning Rod. I'll see how it behaves. No lightning rod you say, how interesting. Why? https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now