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It’s a dang brawler, man.  
 

You’re basically a scrapper with a bit more controlled crits.

 

I took fire mastery for fire ball, and with my global recharge being over 200%, i can basically cycle between that and frozen aura.  I don’t even need frost so I got rid of it.

 

Basically, I start a fight like this: AS>fire ball>frozen aura>ice patch>energy absorption>repeat.  Use ice sword and freezing touch when any of the others aren’t off cd, or when fighting single target. 
 

with ice patch and chilling embrace, enemies stay put.  I always hate chasing down enemies, and that happens A LOT on my other stalker.  Chilling embrace seems to draw aggro so enemies are more likely to stay put, WHICH I LOVE.

 

When I really want a group dead, I use melt armor then the t4 damage path fire judgement.  All die except bosses, which I mop up quickly.

 

Man, this is probably my favorite stalker yet and it’s likely due to the control that ice offers.  
 

Thoughts?

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My ice/ice stalker is easily my favorite of any stalker I've played/tried.

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39 minutes ago, Errants said:

My Ice/Regen has turned out surprisingly well... I think Ice/ is a little bit of a sleeper set.

As in need of a revamp that regen is, ice melee is probably the best it pairs with.  Ice patch will give you control you need to survive.

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5 hours ago, No Clucks Given said:

A friend recommended ice/ice to me and feels the same as you! I ended up going ice/stone but only because I haven’t played the set on a stalker yet. I hope i didn’t make a bad decision…..

Nah, bruh

 

Stone is a top tier stalker set.  You’ll be like me, but you won’t have the psi hole.  You’ll also edge me out in the damage department cause of brimstone armor.

 

I got you beat in the t9 area tho.  Ice has everyone beat in t9

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On 5/1/2022 at 1:41 AM, Killing Legacy said:

It’s a dang brawler, man.  
 

You’re basically a scrapper with a bit more controlled crits.

 

I took fire mastery for fire ball, and with my global recharge being over 200%, i can basically cycle between that and frozen aura.  I don’t even need frost so I got rid of it.

 

Basically, I start a fight like this: AS>fire ball>frozen aura>ice patch>energy absorption>repeat.  Use ice sword and freezing touch when any of the others aren’t off cd, or when fighting single target. 
 

with ice patch and chilling embrace, enemies stay put.  I always hate chasing down enemies, and that happens A LOT on my other stalker.  Chilling embrace seems to draw aggro so enemies are more likely to stay put, WHICH I LOVE.

 

When I really want a group dead, I use melt armor then the t4 damage path fire judgement.  All die except bosses, which I mop up quickly.

 

Man, this is probably my favorite stalker yet and it’s likely due to the control that ice offers.  
 

Thoughts?

I agree 100%  i am rolling one now - at level 39 and its really getting nasty.  Im beginning to worry i will find it on Maury one day soon with how it treats enemies.

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On 5/1/2022 at 8:11 PM, Killing Legacy said:

As in need of a revamp that regen is, ice melee is probably the best it pairs with.  Ice patch will give you control you need to survive.

Early levels, yes. Now, it's for when I get swarmed... Frozen Aura and auto-hit sleep is an AMAZING pause button. And with Regen's kit, Ice's controls, and AS's fear... wow.

ATE end, but as I'm building it out, is very smooth (90% complete). Currently running through NW again through Ouros (Praetorian only lvl 50 goal), and at +2x2 I beat "Defend the Midnight Mansion" with only 1 death to the triple EB spawn... And was comfortable enough during the rest of the phases that I swept and cleared the map for exp.

Death is the best debuff.

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1 hour ago, Errants said:

Early levels, yes. Now, it's for when I get swarmed...

The nice thing is Ice Patch also doesn't need any slots. So even post-early game you don't feel like you've overinvested in it. One recharge and it's happy all game long. 

 

"Run around a corner and drop an Ice Patch" has saved me quite a few times when the rest of the team has wiped. Now you're falling over AND lined up all nice like for Frost & Frozen Aura. 

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10 hours ago, Carnifax said:

The nice thing is Ice Patch also doesn't need any slots. So even post-early game you don't feel like you've overinvested in it. One recharge and it's happy all game long. 

 

"Run around a corner and drop an Ice Patch" has saved me quite a few times when the rest of the team has wiped. Now you're falling over AND lined up all nice like for Frost & Frozen Aura. 

I'm running an EndRed... global has it recharging in under 15 seconds, but that 10 End hit... oof.

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I love ice patch.  I don’t even need it for survivability.  I use it because it keeps enemies from running around.  With chilling embrace and ice patch, most enemies don’t run from me.  As I’ve already stated, I HATE chasing down enemies.

 

on my savage/shield stalker, half the fight is spent chasing stragglers.

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8 hours ago, Braddack said:

i play an Ice / Fire Stalker, nothing beats an icepatch and then drop an burn HRHRHR ❤️

Old skewl 

 

I remember my fire ice tank back when wolves and dreck was a thing (they nerfed wolves making it a timed mission but didn’t touch dreck for a long time).  Herding up the whole map then dropping ice patch and burn on them.  Those were the days.  That was peak coh, fella’s.

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On 5/1/2022 at 3:29 PM, No Clucks Given said:

A friend recommended ice/ice to me and feels the same as you! I ended up going ice/stone but only because I haven’t played the set on a stalker yet. I hope i didn’t make a bad decision…..

 Ice Ice stalker is the best. it has great survivability due to high CC and damage, decent AOE for a stalker, it slows enemy attack rate and recharges, theres nothing not to like.

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Icicle To The Danglies!: Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Ice Melee
Secondary Power Set: Ice Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Fists -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(5), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(7)
Level 1: Hide -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(7)
Level 2: Frost -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(17), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(17)
Level 4: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(19)
Level 6: Assassin's Ice Sword -- SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprStlGl-Dmg/Rchg(19), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprStlGl-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprStlGl-Rchg/Hide%(23)
Level 8: Hoarfrost -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Prv-Absorb%(27), ImpArm-ResPsi(29)
Level 10: Placate -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 12: Wet Ice -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 16: Chilling Embrace -- IceMisTrmt-+ColdDmg(A), PcnoftheT--Rchg%(31), ImpSwf-Dam%(31)
Level 18: Ice Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 20: Permafrost -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(34), GldArm-3defTpProc(34)
Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36), Ags-Psi/Status(36), ImpArm-ResPsi(37)
Level 26: Freezing Touch -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(37), SprEnt-End/Rchg(37), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(39), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(39), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(39)
Level 28: Glacial Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(40), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 30: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(40), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Rct-ResDam%(42)
Level 32: Frozen Aura -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(45)
Level 35: Energy Absorption -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45)
Level 38: Icy Bastion -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(46), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), ImpArm-ResPsi(48)
Level 41: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48)
Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 47: Super Speed -- Thrst-+Special(A), WntGif-ResSlow(50), Clr-Stlth(50)
Level 49: Fly -- HypSnc-+Special(A)
Level 1: Assassination
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(9), Mrc-Rcvry+(9), RgnTss-Regen+(11)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(11), PwrTrns-+Heal(13)
Level 50: Resilient Core Paragon
Level 47: Speed Phase
Level 49: Afterburner
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