Copy everything Thunderspy has done with Masterminds and other stuff.

[Luminara]

11 hours ago, kelika2 said:

We all know you dont need all 12 costume slots.

 

I don't.  And that has nothing to do with my post.

 

Also, an homage is a tribute, a nod, a respectful gesture.  Taking another server group's ideas to diminish their uniqueness and reduce their player base is not an homage, it's malicious and reprehensible.  Finish kindergarten so you learn what words mean before you use them.

[Luminara]

8 hours ago, Mezmera said:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

The irony here is that you're playing on these servers while implying that playing on said servers constitutes copyright infringement.  No-one's forcing you to play this game, but here you are, showing the very moral decrepitude which you attribute to everyone else.  Willingly.  Knowingly.  Eagerly.

 

Here's another link, just for you.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

 

But, to address the accusation of irony, what makes our presence here not ironic is that we're not taking something away from anyone by playing on these servers, or stealing by using the game in this form.  NC has no active Co* servers, no players to poach, no subscription numbers to be impacted, they've abandoned the IP in all but legal filings and are negotiating with the HC team for a licensing agreement.  We have, to a degree, permission from the owner to play with this toy, and are working toward ensuring that we will continue to be permitted to do so.  We are not stealing from NC, we have tacit approval to use the IP while negotiations are conducted.  We are not counterfeiting anything, we are not attempting to pass off the HC version of Co* as the original.  We are not plagiarizing, nothing has been stolen, copied or "borrowed without permission".

 

In contrast, directly copying another Co* server group's assets would be theft, as those are original works created with the specific intent of drawing players to their servers and creating a unique experience.  We do not have agreements with other Co* server groups, we are not negotiating agreements with those other server groups, and stealing their assets would not only impair their ability to draw in players with their unique content, it would also constitute theft of original works, counterfeiting of distinct server groups and plagiarism of their assets.

 

In other words, you're full of shit.

[MoonSheep]

49 minutes ago, Luminara said:

The irony here is that you're playing on these servers while implying that playing on said servers constitutes copyright infringement.  No-one's forcing you to play this game, but here you are, showing the very moral decrepitude which you attribute to everyone else.  Willingly.  Knowingly.  Eagerly.

 

Here's another link, just for you.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

 

But, to address the accusation of irony, what makes our presence here not ironic is that we're not taking something away from anyone by playing on these servers, or stealing by using the game in this form.  NC has no active Co* servers, no players to poach, no subscription numbers to be impacted, they've abandoned the IP in all but legal filings and are negotiating with the HC team for a licensing agreement.  We have, to a degree, permission from the owner to play with this toy, and are working toward ensuring that we will continue to be permitted to do so.  We are not stealing from NC, we have tacit approval to use the IP while negotiations are conducted.  We are not counterfeiting anything, we are not attempting to pass off the HC version of Co* as the original.  We are not plagiarizing, nothing has been stolen, copied or "borrowed without permission".

 

In contrast, directly copying another Co* server group's assets would be theft, as those are original works created with the specific intent of drawing players to their servers and creating a unique experience.  We do not have agreements with other Co* server groups, we are not negotiating agreements with those other server groups, and stealing their assets would not only impair their ability to draw in players with their unique content, it would also constitute theft of original works, counterfeiting of distinct server groups and plagiarism of their assets.

 

In other words, you're full of shit.

 

i like the part where you took the time to ensure you made at least one incorrect statement in every sentence of that post

Edited June 12, 2022 by MoonSheep

[battlewraith]

1 hour ago, Luminara said:

The irony here is that you're playing on these servers while implying that playing on said servers constitutes copyright infringement.  No-one's forcing you to play this game, but here you are, showing the very moral decrepitude which you attribute to everyone else.  Willingly.  Knowingly.  Eagerly.

 

Judging from the way you're overreacting, I'd say that dig must've hit you hard.

 

I didn't see anyone accuse you of moral decrepitude. Complaining about copyright infringement while on the forums for a renegade game is hilarious and it isn't hypocritical to point that out. Assuming that NCSoft approves of this in any way is flat out silly--probably they just don't feel it's worth their time to pursue the issue when the game would just go covert again.

 

 

[The_Warpact]

[kelika2]

2 hours ago, Luminara said:

Also, an homage is a tribute, a nod, a respectful gesture.

That train of thought is only applicable in a for-profit world

[TheZag]

[Mezmera]

3 hours ago, Luminara said:

The irony here is that you're playing on these servers while implying that playing on said servers constitutes copyright infringement.

 

You're the one brow beating someone for wanting to adopt a very neat idea of using costume slots for their MM pets to craft their own pet costumes (I don't ever play MM btw).  

 

Pretty bad argument to be making talking about "copyright infringement" whilst playing on itself a pirated server...

[The_Warpact]

The best part of this thread is the OP hasn't responded since this shit show started.

 

Think about it kids.

[Rudra]

Call this thread done and bury it.

[GM Impervium]

Alright everyone, take it easy.

Whenever a suggestion like this comes up, I like to inform/remind folks that not only is it not "easy" to just plug and play stuff from other servers, but that we wouldn't do so without signed permission. Just because it's "out there" doesn't mean that Homecoming considers it "up for grabs". If/when we ever do get MM customization, we'll do it our own way.

Also this thread had turned into crap, so, locking it up.