Bill Z Bubba Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 Here's what I slapped together: Spoiler This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Bestest Bruter: Level 50 Magic BrutePrimary Power Set: Fiery MeleeSecondary Power Set: RegenerationPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Fire Sword -- Empty(A)Level 1: Fast Healing -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(3), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Prv-Heal/Rchg(5), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(5), Prv-Absorb%(7)Level 2: Cremate -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(17), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(34)Level 4: Reconstruction -- Prv-Heal/Rchg(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(9), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(9)Level 6: Quick Recovery -- SynSck-EndMod(A), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(11), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(11)Level 8: Incinerate -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(40)Level 10: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 12: Dull Pain -- Prv-Heal/Rchg(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(13), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(13), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(15)Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)Level 16: Integration -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(48), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(48), Pnc-Heal(50), Pnc-Heal/+End(50), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(50)Level 18: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 20: Resilience -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), GldArm-3defTpProc(23), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(29)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-Max HP%(33)Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25), ShlWal-Def(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(27), Ksm-ToHit+(27), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29)Level 26: Fire Sword Circle -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(43)Level 28: Instant Healing -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)Level 30: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), GssSynFr--Build%(48)Level 32: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 35: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(37)Level 38: Moment of Glory -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)Level 41: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(43), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(43), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(46)Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(46)Level 47: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 49: Evasive Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: FuryLevel 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 1: Health -- RgnTss-Regen+(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 1: Stamina -- SynSck-EndMod(A), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(17), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(19)Level 10: Afterburner------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1384;635;1270;HEX;| |78DA6593596F12511886CF3043917D2BD0160A14ED626BA1F8038CA995442D49238| |9B784D4039210204013EB1E7F874BEB9258973B6DAB97FE116FB576F1A26E1706BF| |CEF79EA0810C7966DE39DFFBBD67CE39F9EB0BAE7239775668CE73B552BB5D9C6FA| |D74A4355FAA5497752184675EB63B74254DBD65232962DE16F3B226653A5795AD55| |BE1F617D419665BD2DD3976545D665ABD4A936EAC2B9D468D4D2B95AB572ADE330E| |F0B4D29AFBA593E52ABF58ACB7C5A94A5263D44CE37ABCB69B62C34566AC57C8982| |B45687284192FE3E4DA85F972EFA891B83F4C072D72A3E53FCAC212C5FC01DA6F11| |5DC650EEC31FD54A8A9626D8D45DF3A33F084997CCA1C7B063E67DEA4CE3AC2E83A| |3A0CC499C70A1A33CFBC4583ADE864B1EE18A6E8D8050F98411A6053716C2E16C7D| |CCC131EE68417F43127FD4C272D935D7D1B7B9463DCA6B64E38EA4E647421A30B19| |3DC898220737066BEE1942D62E3CE01D72F2AA6CDE183B64E0944930B349700CBCC| |2CE1A39FB5536BFB96E77C92FA8FC82873C7EF03BF89319FE059E66C62254316A08| |9DFC42AA3884E2388AE33F4098246192FC8D4D40C511551CC9B1387401BCC81CB90| |4FE1166C758886712260CABE2E107588287CC938FC0C7E01A737A9D798FE61C551F| |388A0F3B09068EA6A65E8E42CC6C58B82D654EE0A54820CBD1594DA92CA917DCE3F| |806F8127C85EDF31A7CC3BC4F59C6B124DA38DA4D809F5C424CA9AD3DB5C919A6B7| |C06DE6EC07A6A418332AC6CC5BB63FF50EDC04B798B3DBE07BA69D2696563B238D8| |97D9C16624E8973106346DFD9CF19BDB3DF5DEC7FBF64A8D72469A6B4E7E89560D4| |C17FD219DE61FBFDE3BEFD2359048EB00F4738B0CF14E1DE29ECFE05DF60D889| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Notables: 2650 HP with Dull Pain which is permanent. 17 sec downtime on Hasten which I hate. 85% recharge debuff resistance. Only 26% regen debuff resistance. Plan is for Gloom, Incinerate, Cremate, repeat for the ST chain but I haven't even checked the numbers to see if that's possible. Might be G-C-I-C-repeat. IH is up a third of the time. MoG is up around a fifth. Make it better please?
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 2, 2022 Author Posted July 2, 2022 In an ITF right now on beta. Findings so far? The period of time when IH and MoG are down and Barrier is at the low values is freaking rough and that's WITH darkest night up on a boss. Gonna craft up Hybrid Melee instead of running with Assault and see if that will help during the IH/MoG downtimes. Yes, I've already faceplanted once and I haven't even saved all the Sybils yet and that's with allowing myself to run away when the fit hits the shan. I can only imagine how bad this'll be during the seafood buffet or cysts mission.
arcane Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) My regen is ice/regen/soul brute with speed/leap/fight/leadership, no Darkest Night. But I want to make that regen scrapper with RoP/Shadow Meld abuse. And I’m seriously considering fire because, although I have all melee sets at level 50, fire is the only melee set I don’t have on a non-/fire brute. But maybe 2 low end sets at once is not the way, for now. Will maybe work on a build this afternoon. Why no LotG in MoG? Interesting just skipping GFS entirely… I feel like I would want as a Scrapper for the higher proc rate on critical strikes but not sure. No double performance shifters makes my heart hurt but if your end is fine.. Will maybe look more when home 🙂 Edited July 2, 2022 by arcane
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 2, 2022 Author Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 2nd faceplant outside with Sister Solaris and the Minotaur and that was without triggering the seafood buffet. Hybrid Melee does help, but not enough. I'm sure if I slip into squishy mode and stay at the edges, bringing in manageable numbers of enemies, running often to allow for Hybrid Melee, IH and MoG to stay in play, this is all doable. but it sure ain't much fun. Especially compared to just jumping in, staying at the aggro cap and being able to killkillkill. Edited July 2, 2022 by Bill Z Bubba
arcane Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: 2nd faceplant outside with Sister Solaris and the Minotaur and that was without triggering the seafood buffet. Hybrid Melee does help, but not enough. I'm sure if I slip into squishy mode and stay at the edges, bringing in manageable numbers of enemies, running often to allow for Hybrid Melee, IH and MoG to stay in play, this is all doable. but it sure ain't much fun. Especially compared to just jumping in, staying at the aggro cap and being able to killkillkill. Making soloing ITF without inspirations or even effort your baseline was bound to be limiting some day 🙂 Edited July 2, 2022 by arcane 1
arcane Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 Have you thought of running one with Ageless Radial instead of Barrier Core to compare? It’s a hard choice on Regen imo.
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 2, 2022 Author Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, arcane said: Making soloing ITF without inspirations or even effort your baseline was bound to be limiting some day 🙂 Well... yea. Finished 1st mission. 3rd faceplant was from seafood buffet. Even with 85% slow resists and sprint on I couldn't move fast enough to kite around waiting for things to recharge. IH was up at the time. Off to hit a pylon. Not even gonna bother finishing this ITF. 4:45 pylon time. Chain was Gloom, Incin, Cremate, repeat. Not fully clean and worse during hasten's downtime and with hybrid assault for the first 2 mins. Not awful, could be tightened up. Fire/Shield brute might be interesting but still won't come anywhere near Nrg/Shield. Edited July 2, 2022 by Bill Z Bubba 1
Meruk Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) Here is my SS/Regen Brute, not the most damaging build, it is close to the HP cap with accolades/dull pain, I had to take any to hit debuff i could find specially since i still have to worry about my rage crash, and with this, it is somewhat manageable, I decided on going for Ageless Radial, it fixes any endurance problems i may have, increases my recharge and protects me from debuffs for a while, specially regen/def/recharge debuffs, these are all killer for /Regen. I remember people used to cycle between MoG, IH, hybrid and rune of protection back them to stay alive, i don't know how effective would that be now. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic BrutePrimary Power Set: Super StrengthSecondary Power Set: RegenerationPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Punch (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge (5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 1: Fast Healing (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (7) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (9) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime Level 2: Haymaker (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage (9) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime (11) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (11) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (13) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (13) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End Level 4: Quick Recovery (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (15) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 6: Super Speed (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)Level 8: Knockout Blow (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage (15) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge (17) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (17) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (19) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (19) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus Level 10: Reconstruction (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (21) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge (21) Panacea - Heal/Recharge (23) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (23) Panacea - Heal Level 12: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (25) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (25) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 14: Dull Pain (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (27) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (27) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance (31) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 16: Integration (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime Level 18: Rage (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge Level 20: Resilience (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (33) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (34) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (34) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 22: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (36) Recharge Reduction IO Level 24: Boxing (A) Accuracy IOLevel 26: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (36) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (36) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (37) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 28: Instant Healing (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (37) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge (39) Panacea - Heal/Recharge (39) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (39) Panacea - Heal Level 30: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 32: Foot Stomp (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (40) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (43) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge Level 35: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 38: Gloom (A) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff (45) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/ToHit Debuff (45) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Recharge (45) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (46) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge Level 41: Dark Obliteration (A) Ragnarok - Damage (46) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (46) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance Level 44: Moment of Glory (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (50) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge Level 47: Taunt (A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi DamageLevel 49: Revive (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1493;689;1378;HEX;| |78DA5594596F12511886CFC020652BA5D08DAD2DB440A9A5A52ED7466B2FB424552| |E347521A43D0512020468E2BE25FE016FF4C2A52E8DF12F18EFFC336E5513352E37| |E3C7BCDF49A724C3C3F79EF9CE7BE63D73285C59F26E6E2E1F139AE744BDDCE9948| |EB7B7BAD25128576AEB76411F275D61532C15645DCA5C71AB25DBA562B72D1B956E| |958796E4A66C7464EEACACC8866C97BBB56643B8579BCD7AAED89272C36BFE5C91E| |556AD51F199C572AD52ED52E557431BB2DDA9D65A23275BB5F51CA62D36B7EAA542| |B9D395EDABA3B4900C5D098DBE7A97108643AC11D2BAB05D605E04F54BCCCBE0811| |2782DB4D76C131FE809F334F811ECFB0C26E9064D39685E1D833ED0DDCFF483DE01| |6600BC410E766ED6EC0F6DA6D8FF004C529A0E1E148E08ECA649702A3BE736C4FEE| |7E0C00BE64B70F0157307BC4E762E8166DD1585188A31E3E0F038738249CBF0A814| |3C439A298E9EC6E0E80FF026CDEC53CBF27154618E2AFC098C7264D12F607C17BC4| |5CD7EE5E0E7E63837C7B9294D370434733B0C5BE00D229A78CDDC016FD34C419E49| |0FFE44E7C42F70F20FF33773114CD0030EA94D189A15089FA9D1E088DA849130443| |B8963CA668C6D926C93649BA9BFCC5E7B4C1777686D11157E84C39FE2F0531C7E8A| |C34F71F83A39C55434310E3F1D620E80338471BC838663FC315EADF41370E629F31| |9731BCCDE476401279F929E43821DB2EC906587DEE99E560F3CEDC4DA0EF6315D4C| |3738E7012521A39A328BB09B3BC43C0CCE1F611E05EF514AB39C926D9697331F00F| |383608A90539B92EBA0F32E752E287181B76F59DF3BC2465417EA63F46AC3102BFB| |2417665AD5550F895A0433EDBAF76612620EE2D77D6206E2378BA8894984913FA59| |9FF29DFF70DF289CFF3897F9FA513CFC6C6BF61D2D4D2DF052DC5DB0415EAB64741| |4B71C66DB9ED9CB5386F2DD6ACC57FFF7ECC86| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Edited July 2, 2022 by Meruk
Errants Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 Here's a skeleton, haven't slotted it out, but a quick rebuild. Only 4 +Def powers, but you only slotted 4x LotG. 2 OShi buttons - Brutes lose Shadow Meld, so dropped Fly entirely and grabbed Force of Will > Unleash Potential. Might work better. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 49 Magic BrutePrimary Power Set: Fiery MeleeSecondary Power Set: RegenerationPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: Force of WillAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Fire Sword -- Empty(A)Level 1: Fast Healing -- Empty(A)Level 2: Cremate -- Empty(A)Level 4: Quick Recovery -- Empty(A)Level 6: Reconstruction -- Empty(A)Level 8: Incinerate -- Empty(A)Level 10: Dull Pain -- Empty(A)Level 12: Build Up -- Empty(A)Level 14: Hasten -- Empty(A)Level 16: Integration -- Empty(A)Level 18: Weaken Resolve -- Empty(A)Level 20: Resilience -- Empty(A)Level 22: Project Will -- Empty(A)Level 24: Unleash Potential -- Empty(A)Level 26: Fire Sword Circle -- Empty(A)Level 28: Instant Healing -- Empty(A)Level 30: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 32: Tough -- Empty(A)Level 35: Gloom -- Empty(A)Level 38: Moment of Glory -- Empty(A)Level 41: Darkest Night -- Empty(A)Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Empty(A)Level 47: Weave -- Empty(A)Level 49: Combat Jumping -- Empty(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 1: Health -- Empty(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 1: Stamina -- Empty(A)------------ Death is the best debuff.
Frozen Burn Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Here's what I slapped together: Notables: 2650 HP with Dull Pain which is permanent. 17 sec downtime on Hasten which I hate. 85% recharge debuff resistance. Only 26% regen debuff resistance. Plan is for Gloom, Incinerate, Cremate, repeat for the ST chain but I haven't even checked the numbers to see if that's possible. Might be G-C-I-C-repeat. IH is up a third of the time. MoG is up around a fifth. Make it better please? First of all, if you want to go Regen, a Tank is better than a Brute - even though they both have same HP cap, the Brute has a lower base HP so it's much harder to get to the HP cap. A Regen Tank can easily be perma at the HP cap and have better overall slotting since they don't have to work so hard to get the extra HPs. And... if you want all the resists, then you should have gone Will Power instead. 🙂 But since this is what you chose and are going for.... then below is what I came up with for a Regen Brute with most of your choices.... 3112 HPs (perma) which is 100 HPs shy of cap More Regen More overall defense and soft-capped to melee. More defense just makes your darkest night that more potent. More S/L resists (but slightly less on the others) Hopefully, some of these differences will help you out. 🙂 This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic BrutePrimary Power Set: Fiery MeleeSecondary Power Set: RegenerationPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Fire Sword -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Mk'Bit-Dam%(46)Level 1: Fast Healing -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(13), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(13), Prv-Heal/Rchg(37), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(46), Prv-Absorb%(50)Level 2: Cremate -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(48)Level 4: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(25), PrfShf-End%(37)Level 6: Reconstruction -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(7), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(7), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(25), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(29)Level 8: Incinerate -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(48)Level 10: Dull Pain -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(11), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(19), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 12: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)Level 16: Integration -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(17), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(17), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), NmnCnv-Heal(31), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(50)Level 18: Boxing -- HO:Nucle(A)Level 20: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(21), UnbGrd-Max HP%(31), GldArm-3defTpProc(39), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(39)Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), Rct-ResDam%(40), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(40)Level 24: Resilience -- ImpSki-Status(A)Level 26: Fire Sword Circle -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(48)Level 28: Instant Healing -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)Level 30: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 32: Greater Fire Sword -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(43)Level 35: Gloom -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Apc-Acc/Rchg(36), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(36)Level 38: Moment of Glory -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 41: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(42), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(42)Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46)Level 47: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 49: Evasive Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A)Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 1: Health -- RgnTss-Regen+(A), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(15), NmnCnv-Heal(39)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)Level 12: Afterburner Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 50: Portal Jockey Level 50: Task Force Commander Level 50: The Atlas Medallion ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1454;666;1332;HEX;| |78DA6D93C96F525114C6EF834791A90C1DA0405B5B698B6D7905D7C618AD245549B| |0A83BD360BD0C4AA0019A386BFC0BB41ADD38B40E0BF7DA362EFD47DC3A554DD444| |577878DFB9292492C0EFDD8F7BCEF7BD3B642ECFBB0B85F461A1B98E56F28DC6D29| |1FA6A53DA32F9627959B43F76FA064D7129232B521AE9B2AC5FC17318FABC2CC86A| |431A8BB228ABB29E6F966B55FF42B524EBB2DA34D4832B5BAB558C74A55C2C359DE| |6736E45CA0B1EC86DB55C2D768F82C756CACB064C72B5D5CA5226DF68927B8832C5| |E8EBD3E8473363B6745120A47461B908EA453056021397C0ABFDBB4536F1D16A8AE| |E4FCCCF60EC0B98F80AA676403F156AAA585B8768D900F5E7E0D80B70FA2538F70A| |BC4ECE562EB658D72CA6187A08C61E81D768924DBD938DE3F570BC1E8E13CA6926A| |38B601FC1AE62D9DDBA29EEF1307BC1312F38ED03E7FCE00D72742847073B3A7901| |9CEC1860C7143BBAE85CB8B848B82298344EA28745CD33D35E6F87E865DE241BAFC| |AE83D85363E6EE7E3F681D3E0C819B63B0B6AD4D9AFECFC07DBE7D22AAC24F6A98E| |7DBF90A1FF37F30F38F2179C3CC00C52C5306D16150FA8E28134FE1C3CCE5CE0E21| |3E0D44FE600E2DCA27709AA38C161741C240CE170B46C438FB1B8E127CCA7BC09CF| |C0A975DE840DF036758CA8A58BF092459981B681B21B7E8D83D2F61F55DB367A176| |DF6DE63AE31EFF39E3F0097E93DC6B9C83A3E8B4EFB0CE61C3309DEA14C13826D27| |38CB07B71071D521BE8999FBDF31B798DBA024BB199571E60D32CCBE656E32B7C0C| |436E8A09D31D4DB1ABCE2EFA785482A31C96254DFBDCA428471BFD31D62EB64D78C| |04666475A591A84520EE38FF33F37B87681187B0CFBD7C7627F98C7EEBAA8CA3F24| |797C8775B0CD2A561E3569666A454CE739D837CE7E07CE7E01F9AF9C777| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Edited July 2, 2022 by Frozen Burn
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 2, 2022 Author Posted July 2, 2022 58 minutes ago, Frozen Burn said: First of all, if you want to go Regen, a Tank is better than a Brute I would but tanks don't have access to Regen. 2
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 2, 2022 Author Posted July 2, 2022 Also, thanks for the builds yall and your help. Unfortunately, after properly experiencing it fully kitted out, I'll be nuking the character from orbit. Should tanks ever get regen, I'll revisit. 1
Yomo Kimyata Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 I just put this together quickly for a scrapper. No idea how it would play because *I HATE ELEMENTAL SWORDS!!!* Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Level 50 Science Scrapper Primary Power Set: Fiery Melee Secondary Power Set: Regeneration Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Force of Will Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Fire Sword (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (40) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 (43) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus: Level 50 (43) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (43) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50 Level 1: Fast Healing (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal: Level 50 (3) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance: Level 50 (3) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 (7) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime: Level 50 (7) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance: Level 50 (9) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb: Level 50 Level 2: Cremate (A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (37) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime: Level 50 (39) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime: Level 50 (40) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 (40) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 (42) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc: Level 50 Level 4: Reconstruction (A) DSync:D-Sync Reconstruction (5) DSync:D-Sync Reconstruction (5) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime: Level 50 (50) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 Level 6: Kick (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50 Level 8: Combat Jumping (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30 (9) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All): Level 50 (13) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage: Level 50 (13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50 Level 10: Dull Pain (A) DSync:D-Sync Reconstruction (11) DSync:D-Sync Reconstruction (11) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime: Level 50 (17) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 Level 12: Quick Recovery (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50 Level 14: Tough (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40 (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40 (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40 (19) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40 Level 16: Integration (A) HamiO:Golgi Exposure (17) HamiO:Golgi Exposure Level 18: Fire Sword Circle (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (19) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (37) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 (46) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown: Level 50 Level 20: Resilience (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30 (21) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 50 (21) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50 (23) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50 (23) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance: Level 50 (25) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP: Level 50 Level 22: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50 Level 24: Weaken Resolve (A) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure (25) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure (27) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 20 Level 26: Incinerate (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (27) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (31) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (31) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (31) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50 Level 28: Instant Healing (A) DSync:D-Sync Reconstruction (29) DSync:D-Sync Reconstruction (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime: Level 50 (50) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 Level 30: Mighty Leap (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%): Level 50 Level 32: Greater Fire Sword (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (33) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (33) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 (33) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (34) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus: Level 35 Level 35: Water Spout (A) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 50 (36) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (36) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime: Level 50 (36) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 20 (37) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge: Level 50 (48) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff: Level 50 Level 38: Moment of Glory (A) Synapse's Shock - Damage/Rechage: Level 50 (39) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50 (39) Synapse's Shock - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy: Level 50 Level 41: Hibernate (A) Synapse's Shock - Damage/Rechage: Level 50 (42) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50 (42) Synapse's Shock - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy: Level 50 Level 44: Unleash Potential (A) Shield Wall - Defense: Level 50 (45) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge: Level 50 (45) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 (45) Panacea - Heal: Level 50 (46) Panacea - Heal/Recharge: Level 50 (46) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 Level 47: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50 (48) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure (48) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure Level 49: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50 (50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50 Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 1: Swift (A) Empty Level 1: Health (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance: Level 50 Level 1: Hurdle (A) Empty Level 1: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50 Level 30: Takeoff ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1404;674;1348;HEX;| |78DA65935B6F124114C7672F8850E8054AA150A0602B502C2D26269AF86022A5B64| |26CC4C4475CE940376E80C0A6D1776BA2BE784B7CD1AA8F7E0C5FBD7E019F8C8997| |1635D1C6F860F0B0E78C583BD9CD6FE7CCFFCCB9CC6CF172CE55ADE64F3069F0A4A| |1B5DBE552A5A5359BBC652F55745EAF70D61B76788362A55CE406E799BCCE5B57F0| |3BFC7729C7ABBCDEE699B3BCC6EBBCA5997AA3CEDC2B8D8601FADA9AA9D76B2E6B5| |6E05A13261E5C6AB42ABCDCA896CFEB86E1B44CA526E7AB9185A65EC9944CCDB804| |7B17F8BAAE996B5ABD5CD4DA26040F40563178AFF6D293AC44BB2A7BAE30965559E| |23572E60DF178AF0E85CDA4656B9EFBC7C9C63EA248FE44FC8CDCB745DC46EEEF20| |37C05912CED205D5324E69C8831791890A711599E2C8057056183A2B4ADA66A5A50| |A52C42C652083D84662660B32CB3806463B8557ECBF0161C8ED347AB8BE137D92C5| |45103B44380785710A52B8610A9707F100EDCC06EE63AB1430BA45387704BE122A1| |B8C1263484F1C790AC4432496868E62D38789D7617144F46DE401F6C3F31019DB24| |3EA27E3E46CE3E412E81B357387BFD9255F5E8614C7CF407726C87F81319F885BC0| |6CE3E5198EF2916D64E32E6C773ECCAFE63986380187C0622AFCA6E80E738F54F1D| |BF85B9046F232377887789F790CBE014124D0F51B32704FF3B6313D2088B330E87D| |0781376888A4B1D7D81C6C997C45744BAD4B173C0B8CADE82392E5A14FF80A203EF| |88EF8954D8D4067661EE0CB20011A7290D797A8B2EF336B183DC71319614A224895| |2244A91681D146912D9D2CBBDB00E766891B8449C44CE468851A40A6964A8063943| |9778EE08162A1807D1BCB865F3BD58E099254EA84C8C2E3C305854EDFFEDDDC2DEF| |515552C8349B24C1D67DF85545F779962D8CE2F7B75DF7699E82FDA4CF54F19C71F| |E53ADAC7| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| 1 Who run Bartertown?
Troo Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 late as usual.. for anyone reading this far, don't forget the accolade Demonic Aura as a handy tool. previous Regeneration for Broots tips included: Spoiler It feels like cheating. I have simply cycled Rune of Protection, Instant Healing, Demonic Aura, & MoG. Every once in a while popping Dull Pain if I get to 1/2 health. Building high debuff resist to Recharge and Movement is doable. I've seen 100%, but comes at a cost. Something reasonable should suffice. Random Regen tips that you might already know: Regen and resists have nice synergy. Def can be useless at times due to no DDR. Soft caps can be a fools errand just to watch em melt. (incidental def from sets adds up anyway) Use MoG more than other T9s, it has a nice +Recovery on top of everything else and no crash. Dull Pain is somewhat easy to perma, some like it that way. Great for max HP. Setting to auto can be inefficient though. You're gonna get hit. Accept this. Have a plan to get out of trouble and then play with near reckless abandon. Have a heal available. If you don't have one available it may be prudent to back off a bit. Im attaching a non dialed in build I used to test +4/8 runs. Maybe there's some help/confirmation in there. Brute - Stone Melee - Regeneration.mxd "Rely on superb regen and healing for the most part, but rotate three powerful survival steroids between Instant Healing, MoG, and Rune as needed. " -onlysandwich "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum
Frozen Burn Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: I would but tanks don't have access to Regen. They don't? My bad. I would've swore they did. Oh well! 🙂 1
Troo Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 15 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Level 35: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(37) m0re damage with 5 X Apoc + Glad Jav? (just deprioritize defense on Regeneration) rough with plenty of slots to move around (capped HP w/DP and more regen & resists) Brute - Fire Melee - Regeneration.mxd "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum
Frozen Burn Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Also, thanks for the builds yall and your help. Unfortunately, after properly experiencing it fully kitted out, I'll be nuking the character from orbit. Should tanks ever get regen, I'll revisit. Try it with Will Power instead? You can get good regen and probably higher resists for what you may want to do? My Titan/WP Brute has no issues with ITF. Or even better, WP Tank?
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 3, 2022 Author Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Frozen Burn said: Try it with Will Power instead? You can get good regen and probably higher resists for what you may want to do? My Titan/WP Brute has no issues with ITF. Or even better, WP Tank? I don't know what may be next. @arcane actually hit my problem on the head. After experiencing the insanity of a shield/nrg tank, and being able to go afk with an aggro cap of +4s with my sr/claws tank and claws/sr brute, everything else starts to get that "what's the point" feel to it. Edit: Don't get my wrong, my completely over the top nrg/bio/soul scrapper faceplants from time to time as well but the damage she dishes out is freakin obscene. Edited July 3, 2022 by Bill Z Bubba
arcane Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 19 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said: I would but tanks don't have access to Regen. I too would like a Regen tank 😞 1 1
Hyperstrike Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, arcane said: I too would like a Regen tank 😞 The problem is that they'd have to completely rework Regen because at the current values, with Tanker HP, it'd be completely broken. And, when you go to do a balanced pass on Regen, what are you going to come up with? WILLPOWER. 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
Troo Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hyperstrike said: The problem is that they'd have to completely rework Regen because at the current values, with Tanker HP, it'd be completely broken. And, when you go to do a balanced pass on Regen, what are you going to come up with? WILLPOWER. Yep Edited July 3, 2022 by Troo "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 4, 2022 Author Posted July 4, 2022 21 hours ago, Hyperstrike said: The problem is that they'd have to completely rework Regen because at the current values, with Tanker HP, it'd be completely broken. And, when you go to do a balanced pass on Regen, what are you going to come up with? WILLPOWER. I had to come back to this and ask why it matters? ALL tank armors are completely broken by design. You even have it as your sig line: "If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!" It's a true statement. Nrg and Regen should be ported to tanks as is because it just doesn't matter if they'll be OP on the already OP archetype. 1
Seed22 Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 On 7/2/2022 at 11:46 PM, Frozen Burn said: They don't? My bad. I would've swore they did. Oh well! 🙂 Bio or WP technically count. Aspiring show writer through AE arcs and then eventually a script 😛 AE Arcs: Odd Stories-Arc ID: 57289| An anthology series focusing on some of your crazier stories that you'd save for either a drunken night at Pocket D or a mindwipe from your personal psychic.|The Pariahs: Magus Gray-Arc ID: 58682| Magus Gray enlists your help in getting to the bottom of who was behind the murder of the Winter Court.|
Yomo Kimyata Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 It being the 4th of July, I pulled out one of my MERICA! alts, a broadsword/regen brute who I had dinged 50 with a while back. I ran the Mender arc to get my alpha and it was a slog. So I spent a little time actually working on the build. And I discovered something that I am embarrassed that I haven't exploited before: Darkest Night is monstrously overowered. I play almost all scrappers nowadays, so I wasn't familiar with it. But sure as Shipoopi, I'm walking through +4/x8 missions and neither my blue bars or green bars are moving one bit. 1 Who run Bartertown?
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 5, 2022 Author Posted July 5, 2022 40 minutes ago, Yomo Kimyata said: Darkest Night is monstrously overowered. Can be used for aggro control assistance? Check. -21% damage debuff for up to 16 targets? Check. -10.5% tohit debuff also for up to 16 targets? Check. Yea, and since adding gloom to any attack chain makes it much better, soul mastery is one of those pools it's hard to say no to. 1
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